Motorcycle Exclusions
08
September
Let me repost an article written by Inquirer writer and fellow rider Randy David. It has an interesting point of view on all the discussions regarding the total Motorcycle ban on the freeways. It presents no side, has no biases instead presents the situation as it really is.
I remember the first time I drove a motorcycle on the expressway. It was 1967, and the new North Diversion Road (as it was then called) was almost finished, although it had not yet officially opened. I realized then that some motorcycles are made for open highways, while others do better on city roads. The concept of “limited access highways” was new in our country.
In 1968, the Department of Public Works and Communications issued Administrative Order No. 1, which, among other things, prohibited motorcycles on limited access highways, putting them in the same league as bicycles and pedicabs. This was contrary to the practice in most countries. The ban is based on the unexamined belief that motorcycles pose a greater danger than motorcars to the free flow of traffic on expressways.Many years have passed, and, even as cars are getting smaller, the new bikes that are being produced are getting not only bigger and faster but also more stable and maneuverable. The science that has gone into the crafting of these high-performance machines necessitates a new way of driving. The power they pack imposes great responsibilities on their owners. In many countries, a license to drive such machines is issued only after the completion of a special riding course.
In July 2001, the Department of Public Works and Highways issued Department Order No. 123, allowing motorbikes with at least 400cc engine displacement access to the expressways. This new policy was prompted by a Makati City court’s grant of a preliminary injunction on a petition seeking the lifting of the ban, which had been filed earlier by bikers James Mirasol, Richard Santiago and the Luzon Motorcyclists Federation Inc.
Encouraged by this new policy, I bought my first big bike, a Ducati Monster S4, with an engine capacity of 916cc, one month after the ban was lifted. I’ve been riding almost every weekend ever since, using either the North Luzon Expressway (NLEX) or the South Luzon Expressway (SLEX) as access routes to the rest of this beautiful country.
But something happened to the world of motorcycling that was not foreseen. Taiwan, South Korea and China entered the scene as motorcycle manufacturers, churning out light motorbikes that were being sold at incredibly low prices. This compelled the Japanese producers that had traditionally supplied the bikes for the local tricycle market to come up with comparable models at competitive prices. The rise in overseas workers’ remittances in the past decade greatly stimulated the demand, and the availability of easy installment schemes changed the whole configuration of the market. In an instant, this chain of events democratized motorcycling as a hobby.
Today there are more than three million registered motorcycles in the country. Organized as associations of sporting enthusiasts, their owners constitute a formidable force. I remember being approached by a fellow rider whose beautiful modified “underbone” had caught my attention. In the course of our conversation, he brought up the idea of putting up a party-list group for motorcyclists. What would be our main advocacy, I asked. Well, he said, for one — the right of equal access to the expressways. Of course, he added, eyeing my Ducati, you don’t have this problem. But why, he pressed on, testing my democratic credentials, should the highways be for the exclusive use of the rich big bikers? He had a point.
I was going to build a case justifying the selective lifting of the ban, but lowering the minimum engine displacement requirement to maybe 250cc. I started to tell him that going on full-throttle speed to keep within the speed range of expressways could subject small engines and narrow tires to the risk of blow-ups. But my friend was in no mood to listen to a discourse on the concept of expressways and the rationality they embody.
I suddenly became aware that a simple distinction based on engine displacement had quietly acquired a class undertone. The big bike is no longer just a heavy machine; it has become a signifier of social exclusion. The unverbalized resentment that this breeds may sometimes be felt in the awkward social distance that segregates big bikers from the small “underbone” riders in gas stations where they congregate for their Sunday rides. There is an easy camaraderie among big bikers that is symbolized by the quick friendly wave on the road, but I have to admit this is not something customarily given to fellow riders on underbones.
The original petition filed by Mirasol, Santiago and the Luzon Motorcyclists Federation had sought the total removal of all motorcycles from the list of vehicles to be excluded from the expressways. Ironically, it was the big bikers who became the sole beneficiaries when the Department of Public Works and Highways amended its rules allowing motorbikes with at least 400cc displacement access to the freeways. This was like rubbing salt on an open wound.
In June 2003, the Makati Regional Trial Court ruled with finality against the petition. The judge restored the ban on all motorcycles, regardless of engine displacement. The case found its way to the Supreme Court. In a fascinating decision penned by Justice Antonio Carpio last year, the Court took an unexpected route, partially granting the petition by annulling some department orders that had been issued, but upholding the legality of the original ban against motorcycles on expressways under Administrative Order No. 1. The Court refused to be drawn into a discussion of the rational use of expressways and why motorcyclists can be responsible users of these roads. Instead, in one fell swoop, it flattened all motorcycle distinctions and democratized expressway exclusion.
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1. roughrod | September 9th, 2007 at 2:41 am
Well, authorities do have a point in banning the underbone from the expressway, for whenever i go full throtle w/ my 110cc bike, i feel like a paper so light that if maybe a big truck or a bus will pass me at full speed i think ill fall. Just a peace of adviced to my fellow underboners: ride safe na lang but lets not insist on getting inside the expressways. peace:)
2. Jon | September 9th, 2007 at 8:54 am
i agree with 250CC being enough for expressway use.. also on the idea that maybe us motorcyclists can form a partylist to have a voice in government representing us, granting that the chosen leaders have impartiality, integrity and objectivity.
hoping that these may come into reality.
3. hotruss | September 9th, 2007 at 12:46 pm
If the good office of the TRB imposes strict compliance to the maximum speed limit (80kms max as posted on the Bicutan exit) for all vehicles, with the unrelentless participation of ALL PNCC enforcers, there should be no need to ban motorcycles. As a 100cc bike can accelerate and maintain 80kms/hr all through out SLEX. Same goes to NLEX.
The TRB is just afraid that one day, if hypothetically the ban is lifted, motorcycle riders will petition for FREE access on the expressways. Just like what our neighbor Malaysia is doing.
P.S. If you are a speed junkie, expressways is not for you. It’s both a danger to you and to others. Better satisfy your hunger at the race tracks.
4. yellow monster | September 9th, 2007 at 2:13 pm
yes, yes, yes, both expressways are for the rich people, or above the ‘can afford’ group.. first of all, toll rates are expensive, secondly, you need to have a car to use that road, which would cost you at least half a million ( that is if youre not using a Torana! ).. so government officials wake up! dont treat those expressways as if you are siding on your voters! you let us use those expressways because we can afford toll fees! if the government has a heart on poor individuals then SLEX and NLEX is not the right way of getting your ‘pogi points’!
5. Rally | September 9th, 2007 at 4:47 pm
One short note to our officials,and fellow riders.WE ARE GOING BACKWARDS!!!
6. Uncle Antti | September 9th, 2007 at 5:36 pm
A correction to the speed limits. There are segments on both SLEX and NLEX that allow 100 kmh maximum speed.
No matter what I ride, I know by experience that you’d better ride same speed or slightly faster than the traffic around you. Only that way it is safe and you can be in control.
Thus, 100 kmh must be the safe travel speed on any bike.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, somebody will soon enough say something about the slow jeepneys etc. That is not the point here.
7. jodes | September 9th, 2007 at 6:22 pm
why not look into the history of the nlex and slex about accidents statistics… mostly its not a motorcycle accident. its a car accident. probably because there are more cars using these roads than motorcycles but still take the statistics and just simply use ratio and proportion and take the percentage… next ask the bikers… where do they usually encounter accident or a close call with the grim reaper… is it the wide open road… or the crowded busy sidestreets.
8. jodes | September 9th, 2007 at 6:23 pm
rally’s right. were goin backwards…
9. yuuup | September 9th, 2007 at 7:33 pm
Why are we fighting for this small strip of road?
Because everywhere else is neglected by our government.
If you look at it closely, our streets have a very big impact in our lives. Everyday, we use it, it affects our mood, our time, our health, our livelihood and our well being.
Yet, our streets seems to be the last frontier for improvement. Laws on the streets are flawed and at best confusing. Enforcers are as confused as the drivers most of the time, side walks are hazardous if it even exist.
What does our lawmakers do to fix these problems?
Renaming the streets with their sirnames.
(cant blame if they dont feel our problems, after all they drive around with police escorts.)
10. Wolver888 | September 9th, 2007 at 11:21 pm
Lots of misconceptions here. Turbulance caused by large vehicles are not that fatal. Its not that scray too.
11. roughrod | September 10th, 2007 at 5:16 am
Like, i said on my post above. i’m a sissy so i feel like a paper, a pink paper. when driving my bike there should’nt be bus or trucks, or i’ll fall. like a paper i’ll be blown away then fall like a paper. pink. i need my mommy and i need my milk. so all of you need your milk too. just an advise.
12. jempot_pagukpok | September 10th, 2007 at 7:12 am
the reason why us underbone users wouldnt be allowed to enter expressways would be for our safety. just look back at your physics days,.lets make an example, your driving with the speed of 90 kph on your underbone with a expressway speed limit of 100 kph, then suddenly a 90 kph f150 rushes beside you just imagine the impact of the wind that will hit by you created by the weight of the F150 definitely you’ll fly like superman.sometimes lets give some credit to the government cause not all of them just wants money from us, some really do their jobs for the welfare of the people.
13. Pedro Pendukiko | September 10th, 2007 at 10:15 am
Blown away like paper? Yeah, right. I believe in the existence of duwendes too.
14. Russ | September 10th, 2007 at 10:56 am
Even if you’re running @ the minimum speed limit (60kph) and a 100kph f150 overtakes you, the speed differential is not enough to create turbulence to throw you away. How would I know? Coz I’ve been there. And yes, using an underbone. Even experienced riding @ 80kph on a 2 lane stretch in Mac Arthur highway with a victory liner bus running at around the same speed but in the OPPOSITE direction/lane.
“Being thrown like a piece of paper” crap is just plain myth. Why not try it? If some guys have no balls, then why close down the expressways to ALL motorcyclists? Just like burning the entire house to kill a cockroach.
15. mag-isa | September 10th, 2007 at 2:03 pm
mali yang motorcycle ban sa xpressways dapat talaga may limit kung sino gagamit ng highways, gaya ng overloaded trucks hindi sila pwede sa xpressways, bawal din ang towed,dilapidated vehicles. restrictions ata ang tawag dun, isa pang halimbawa ang coding dito sa metro manila, para lang maayos para sa lahat ang pag gamit ng ating mga kalsada.KAYA MALI PARA SA AKIN ANG TOTAL BAN OF MOTORCYCLES SA HIGHWAYS TAMA NA YUNG DATI NA 400CC. AND ABOVE. dont get me wrong kapwa riders ub din ang bike ko pero i do agree sa restrictions sa highways. dapat siguro ang dapat unahin ng mga grupo ng ub’s ay ang disiplina sa ating mga riders, araw araw ako sa kalsada kaya nakikita ko pagka walang disiplina ng mga kapwa nating riders, ANO B NAMAN KUNG HUMINTO TAYO PAG RED LIGHT, MAG SUOT NG HELMET, AT WAG NAMAN TAYO MASYADO AGRESIBO SA KALSADA KASI HINDI LANG TAYO ANG GUMAGAMIT NIYAN. sana maayos muna natin ang maliit na problema ng disiplina sa ating mga riders bago tayo humirit ng karapatan nating gumamit ng highways. THIS CALL IS NOT ONLY FOR THOSE USING UNDER BONES LIKE ME BUT ALSO THOSE BIG BIKERS AS WELL.
16. Leviticus | September 10th, 2007 at 2:16 pm
it’s always a “safety” issue whenever NLEX/SLEX is the subject matter. safety of the rider and the safety of the cager; but mostly the safety of the cager. come on.. can a cager honestly say that they are genuinely concerned with us bikers? I don’t think so.
the real issue is not safety but IMPLEMENTATION of the existing road rules and regulations. if sinusundan lang ang speed limit then no need for that ban. kahit minimum rules and regulations lang sana! sheesh!
17. jempot_pugok | September 10th, 2007 at 3:51 pm
I kno physics. looking back the physics days, look at my formula:
f150 / UB x 90kph
—————– = flying like superman
(rushing x beside you)
Im soooo smart. Listen okay?
credit 2 our gov 4 doing there job.
Jempot aka tol enforcer.
18. pepe | September 10th, 2007 at 5:33 pm
if you watch the news, almost everyday there are always reports about MC’s involved in accidents, some minor and some resulting to deaths of the driver of the MC or its backride. these “incidents” happen mostly in city streets or C5. and it would be safe to say that most of these are from drivers of underbones. has anybody seen the news about the recent accident in makati where lab-lab tioseco made a statement? dont take me wrong, i used to drive a wave 125 myself and just recently bought a sym jet 100. but, most of the drivers of UB’s these days are really reckless. always thinking that they are being raced by other drivers. sometimes i see a raider 150 trying to outrun a super 4 imagine that!!!
so, if you take out the restriction on the hi-ways and allow every kind of bikes, how many accidents will be reported every day? the roads are wider and you will be forced to full throttle so that you wont be left out by other bikes…
these are personnal opinions only. if somebody will be offended, then maybe he’s the one ive been talking about trying to race an S4… ill see you in the news…
19. zander | September 10th, 2007 at 6:12 pm
gusto ko din ng big bike para sa expressway. kaya lng kung bawal pati big bike dumaan dun. mag undrbone nlng ako. tipid p sa gas. peace sa inyong lahat!
20. alvin | September 10th, 2007 at 9:40 pm
tama na, wag nang payagan mga mc sa xpress ways…im a rider to, lo lang dadami ang mamatay sa axident…we are the most undicipline drivers and the most walang kwentang batas about driving..we can drink and drive,
21. Carabao Rider | September 10th, 2007 at 10:19 pm
I used to ride a ZX750R. I recently sold it because of the said “Ban”. My last ride in the expressway was the day the”Ban” was implemented for the Nth time. So i took time to chat with a PNCC toll enforcer. I was surprised from what I heard from him. “Gusto din namin ang mga Big-bikes dito” not only do they admire the beauty of the bike, but it’s added income. Plus the fact that it’s small enough to make a damage as much as heavy trucks do. If you think that riding my bike in village is fun, think again. I used to own a 250NSR a ZX750R, a Raider150 and 110jr. I sold my ZX for a cheap price due to the ban. It sucks. I remember the enforcer telling me “kung hindi lang makulit yung mga ub’s sana pwede pa kita padaanin” -now instead of just riding safe, I don’t feel like riding at all. 400cc-atleast bikes should be allowed to use the tollways. fellow ub’s the solution is to just save for now. I know that there are groups out there doing their best to be free to use the highways again. And who knows. When the time comes that the ban is lifted again all those who want to use NLEX/SLEX will have the money to buy the right kind of metal for the highways.
and before I forget:
I also hate those people that has escort to wave traffic off their asses, as if they are some kind of royalty. They eat, they drink they are born the same way we are. They are just elected brats doing their “right to step on your face” they are full of S#!T!!! Oh before I forget they too will die. it might not be gruesome but I hope where ever they are going, they still bring their “abusado” escorts with them. unfortunately their precious money stays here.
Safe riding guys!
22. bigbikers | September 11th, 2007 at 8:46 am
@zander
what do you mean peace? muka kang tanga.
23. speed | September 11th, 2007 at 9:23 am
its unfair satin mga rider kahit wala me bigbike dream ko rin magkaron at tirahin yang controvercial na nlex nayan,goodluck to us sana maliwanagan mga nagpatupad nyan!ITS ONLY IN PINAS YAN
24. mjagillett | September 11th, 2007 at 12:26 pm
I am a regular visitor to your lovely country, and inevitably compare the laws in the Philippines to ours in the UK. All UK motorways allow access to ANY motorcycle above 50cc, driven with a proper full motorcycle license. NO ‘L’ or learner divers are allowed. That is the Law. We have no problems whatever with any of the things that you discuss here with ‘wind’ etc from faster cars. However, we have a pretty rigid speed limit of maximum speed of 70 miles an hour for ALL vehicles, and there are police and numerous speed cameras to enforce this, plus high financial penalties if you exceed the speed limit. There is no sound basis for this total motorcycle ban. It is simply a way of slowing down progress in this country, and is not a ‘democratic’ decision at all, and will cause the already over stressed non-expressways to become more and more congested. This decision is a real step backwards, and will also have to the effect of reducing tourism significantly, and this is not good. Such a shame, as the expressways are good roads and allow faster movement up and down the country.
25. rockler | September 11th, 2007 at 12:33 pm
this argument has been goin on and on for quite some time now.
crosswinds coming frmo MY experience do have an effect. especially on small bikes. i have already riddn so many bikes big and small in different situations and winds do affect its running.
as with the expressways i think we should be pro-choice on this. let the underbones ride the roads. given they know what theylll be getting into. as for me? i’d ride my underbone in the cities then ride my rgv on the expressways. =)
26. mjagillett | September 11th, 2007 at 1:06 pm
I do have to add these comment to the one I made above. When driving on motorways (expressways) it is imperative that all ‘road rules’ are adhered to, otherwise accidents are inevitable. I am sorry to say that the standard of all vehicle driving is not high enough to allow free access to the expressways for the Philippines, as you might get a family of four on a 100cc bike all wearing flip-flops, no helmets, and racing at 100kph(!!). Of course any higher speed driving requires that helmets are worn, proper shoes and a high standard vehicle ( good light, brakes etc) be used. Until this happens, all driving here is extra ‘hazardous’.
27. sherwin | September 11th, 2007 at 2:04 pm
would you ever know that accident happen on both expressway are always a four wheel,for these year did you heard to the radio or telecast in tv that there will be a fatal accident happen on expressway both north and south.WALA DB…..
28. Dandang | September 11th, 2007 at 2:55 pm
I will agree only to the total ban of all highways if
1. They can pave the service raods or macarthur highway as smooth as the NLEX
2. Dicipline jeepney drivers to load and unload only on designated areas.
3. People cross the streets at pedestrian lane only.
4. Remove all obstructions such as parked cars along this alternate routes.
5. PAg dumadaan din sa service road ang mga motor ng mga pulis.
29. bigbikers | September 11th, 2007 at 9:41 pm
dandang,
what if not. do you have any choice ?
30. Alan | September 11th, 2007 at 10:31 pm
Well said and done..Kuya Randy..I would like to hear the comments from the Big Bike Dealers such as Beemers, Guzzi, Honda and Yamaha…Definitely this has an impact on their business..how about the tourism people..group rides and events definitely help promote the local tourism..NLEX is spending money on promoting for people to visit the North..and riding is great way to experience the Philippines…SO I do hope that this DICTATOR or whoever interprets to whatever LAW should look at the bigger picture…as we would say…TARA NA BIYAHE TAYO NG ATING MAKITA ANG GANDA NG PILIPINAS AT GALING NG PILIPINO…
31. flavio | September 11th, 2007 at 10:35 pm
If I have the authority, I will allow motorcycles inside the expressways.
But, I will see to it that the rules are followed, for if not, the harshest penalties would be meted up to the extent of confiscating the vehicle of the violator.
32. agie | September 12th, 2007 at 12:20 am
para sakin it deffends nmn sa driver kung safe sya magmaniho like me im a newbie sa motor but i drive safe sa highways or any road even if my license is just a student permit or student license… masarap magmotor mga tol so just respect LTO or other related to them kc if u follow there rules hnd ka nmn nila huhulihin…. clientracer112304
33. mraldnyt | September 12th, 2007 at 7:57 am
hello mga bros,
hintayin na lan ntin matapos yun mga gawain sa loob ng xprswy at delikado, nagkalat ang graba, buhangin at naguulan pa.
34. neo | September 12th, 2007 at 10:51 am
For me im using a 150cc MC and yes wind is a big factor and to think expressways is open highway with truck and buses speeding…you’ll never know..yes some UB can maintain 80kph an hour no question to that…but can they maintain ground level with big trucks and buses coming out there backs…for me if i may add yes i want also to lift the ban for MC in expressways given that we have our own lane…correct me if im wron there is 3 lane expressway so let the shoulder lane be our lane because where light..and one thing there must be a requirement all riders must wear proper protection…helmet,shin guard,and knee pad..and thick clothing, anyway it will not be too hot riding on an 80kph, and if someoe will says “gagastos pa sa proteksyon” think this even thought your not in a highway…this proteksyon is cheaper than hospitalization…or maybe something else…peace out
35. trikedxb | September 12th, 2007 at 1:41 pm
Mr. mjagillett,
I am not in favor to ban the motorcycles in the freeway/expressway, but compare to your country (UK) bikers are more diciplened in the road or highways also they wear protective gear.
you said that you are a regular visitor in our country, you should have an idea how riders hit the road and how they ignore safety, besides they pass thru each corner even they know that its a blind spot.
to my opinion the government should not consider the ban of motorcycles particularly to the open highway or what they call expressway, instead they must ammend the existing traffic rules to include safety procedures and should be immplemented appropriately. its my personal view!
BTW i have visited your country as well and i fully agree with your opinion.
36. stone | September 12th, 2007 at 2:10 pm
Im not agree!!!!!!!!!!!!! Para sa akin hinde malinaw kung ano ang basihan nila kung bkt pinag babawal ang motorsiklo na 400cc pataas sa expressway, to my fellow rider magkaisa tayo. wala ba meeting dyan, o pagtitipon to discuss this things!
37. johann | September 12th, 2007 at 4:06 pm
“I was going to build a case justifying the selective lifting of the ban, but lowering the minimum engine displacement requirement to maybe 250cc. I started to tell him that going on full-throttle speed to keep within the speed range of expressways could subject small engines and narrow tires to the risk of blow-ups. But my friend was in no mood to listen to a discourse on the concept of expressways and the rationality they embody.”
I think these words by Randy justifies why motorcycles are not safe at expressways don’t you think? especially small displacement bikes. imagine (i know some of you would say “done that”) running at 90 to 100kph at Nlex on your underbone… a bus running at 100kph passes you… at the same time you pass by the part of nlex with small humps on the road (the ones used to wake drivers up in case they fall asleep)… those small humps could (i said could not would so this is just conjeture) do harm on small narrow tires right. you loose some control on your handle bar, the bus passes… who would be the one in trouble here, the bus or the bike?…
I’m not for the ban, i’m not against small displacement bikes either (i have a honda sonic 150cc, a jianshe monarc 125 and an icon 50cc). i’m just saying the ban is not being implemented just to piss us off but for road safety.
38. ajfrom uk | September 13th, 2007 at 7:35 am
not another ban on the nlex,hi nako. as a regular foreign visiter to PI(i have 2 bikes xr200 and virago 535)in QC.Before i say anything i just want to say i love PI,but come on the country is getting worse for bike lovers(and tourists).On my last visit i was pulled over and extorted more times than in all my previous visits(but never saw cars treated in this manner)on all my trips on the nlex i have seen cars exceeding the speed limit by 50kmph passing on both shoulders,cars comeing way to close to my motorcycle ownertype jeeps and big trucks unable to do even close to the speed limit, as well as vehicals comiting just about every violation in the book(with little or no policeing)..i guess im just trying to say highways in PI are a pretty dagerous place and i would never enter on a scooter or underbone.(although i did observe scooters useing the meridian on coastal road without to much disruption)but most times i like to have a little power (to get away from they odd tanga)although not perfect i would rather ride there than the secondery roads where one is almost killed on every ride…shape up phillipines before they only people that want to come there are koreans and japanese
39. bumslayer | September 13th, 2007 at 6:00 pm
Turbulence caused by large vehicles are real. However, it would affect only light matter and light things, which would send them flying. While motorcycles, with their riders (and their backrides), may be affected, the effect while not throw the bike off, irregardless of whether the bike is running, has stopped or is running the opposite direction, because of its weight.
I saw an episode of Mythbusters similar to this situation. They were trying to bust a myth that a speeding train would throw the people off the boarding platforms if it runs at top speed. The result? The myth was busted.
We are indeed moving backwards….
40. CeetwOdaBOSS | September 14th, 2007 at 4:09 am
Guys! The main things is just ‘DISCIPLINE’ this one word bans us UB riders from access to the express ways because of the way we drive. Next thing is ‘LAW IMPLEMENTATION’ politicians and government officials impose these rules but do not implement. sila pa nga ang mga unang-unang lumalbag dito. paano mo susundin ang batas kung ang mga gumagawa mismo hindi marunong sumunod. like in our town (di ko na sasabihin kung saan) traffic enforcers also use motorcycles, but they themselves don’t have helmet, protective gears, even liscense, they don’t have, Why? “dyan lang ako nakatira, at sino naman ang huhuli sakin, traffic enforcer nga ako diba” eh kung hindi nga naman mga GAGO itong mga taong ito. most of the government officials/employees abuse the position of being in the government. bakit hindi sila muna paghuhulihin nyo, bago kayo manita ng mga maayos na driver. next thing bakit kaya kung kailan gabi, madilim at madalas maganap ang krimen ay walang pulis sa paligid? bakit hindi kaya maglagay ng mas maraming pulis sa kalye kapag gabi? hindi nyo naman kailangan mag-check point every night, patrol lang every hour, malaking tulong na yun para mabawasan ang mga pagala-galang masasamang loob sa kalye kapag gabi. mababawasan rin ang mga mapagsamantalang drivers na gumagamit ng kalye kapag gabi.
to conclude, we drivers, them law enforcers, and the government would have to come up to our senses. Please “BE RESPONSIBLE”
41. doombringer | September 14th, 2007 at 4:11 am
Could it be possible that the government put up an independent agency who can give an authority and license to responsible bike riders to use our NLEX and SLEX? An agency that cannot be corrupted and have the strictest psychological test. They must also pass a certain riding course. From here, we could filter the safe responsible riders to daredevils ones. There are a lot of bike riders in the Philippines but only a few knows how to ride a bike properly and safely.
42. Mar | September 14th, 2007 at 9:59 pm
Sad to know that some of our brothers do not know what they are doing. I hope that what had happened right now will make us realize that although we are all bikers we are not equal in everything like for example the right to use the expressway. We have to follow certain rules and regulations that its meant to protect us.
43. erl tamayo | September 15th, 2007 at 10:16 am
Huhhh……so many ideas….Yah thats really a pinoy way of saying it. Who will but ba our MC(regardless of displacement)? sila ba?! i dont think so!! I agree to one of the comments above… Tax nman tyo nagbyad at pati yng MC d b?
Dicipline lng tlga both the Riders and the Gov officials….maybe hindi lng MC’s problem masolve ntin pati na kay ERAP, ZTE, CEP at HELLO GARCI at pati na yung kay PAPI! bY the way, i’m not a Filipino - I’M A KAYUMANGI!!!…..its a big different bet the Pinoy and Kayumangi.
44. erl tamayo | September 15th, 2007 at 10:17 am
Huhhh……so many ideas….Yah thats really a pinoy way of saying it. Who will buy ba our MC(regardless of displacement)? sila ba?! i dont think so!! I agree to one of the comments above… Tax nman tyo nagbyad at pati yng MC d b?
Dicipline lng tlga both the Riders and the Gov officials….maybe hindi lng MC’s problem masolve ntin pati na kay ERAP, ZTE, CEP at HELLO GARCI at pati na yung kay PAPI! bY the way, i’m not a Filipino - I’M A KAYUMANGI!!!…..its a big different bet the Pinoy and Kayumangi.
45. Biker10 | September 15th, 2007 at 5:45 pm
Ganito lang yan boys.. yung NAMUMUNO sa pag pilit sa expressways ng underbone.. GINAGAMIT LANG NYA KAYO PARA SUMIKAT SIYA SA MOTORCYCLE INDUSTRY, ALAM NYA DIN NA DELIKADO ANG UNDERBONE SA EXPRESSWAYS AT CGURADONG MERON MADIDISGRASYA. just an honest opinion guys.. ride safe!
46. doc ricky | September 16th, 2007 at 12:08 am
I think everyone has made their points. I guess the total ban in all motorcycle will create big impacts on the tourism as well as bad for business.To tell you frankly the Luzon Motorcycle Federation, Inc. thru its president General Berroya are doing their best to allow motorcycles in limited access hiways. This week i also sent a letter to MNTC in my capacity as LMFI secretary and Roadrunners president along with the Department of tourism Regional head- Mr Ronaldo totuico to again appeal for an extension of the deadline in the ban until a new set of policies are approved to permanently put this issue into rest. Lets just hope and pray that things will go our way. - Dr.Ricky Pinpin
47. bigbikers | September 16th, 2007 at 9:43 am
underbone or not bawal dapat lahat. law applies to all or none at all.
48. Stahel | September 17th, 2007 at 6:41 pm
Why not to outlaw motorbikes at all here in the Philippines.
It is far more dangerous to travel on national highways in this country than on the expressway. But that is for sure not the concern of the ones who make this ban on expressway.
49. ben | September 17th, 2007 at 9:24 pm
erl tamayo,
true. lots of k0rakot in the present government. ayaw mag appear sa sanate. guilty ba ?
50. JRT | September 18th, 2007 at 4:46 am
AS ASUAL
51. JRT | September 18th, 2007 at 4:48 am
Patigasan ng ulo ang labas. Mga talangka lang kayo, kami mga ALIMANGO kasama ang utol kong si Daldal, este Dallas. Mas madaldal pala ako sa kanya.
52. Dallas | September 18th, 2007 at 4:49 am
JRT manahimik ka na. Kahiya hiya na tayo sa forum na ito, masyado ka madaldal para kang pwet ng manok.
Ride safe@fast to all…
53. Mozkeetoh | September 18th, 2007 at 10:26 am
In other countries, they provide bike lanes… Is it not possible in the Phils??? and also, I’ve live in Brunei and Malaysia for quite some time, trucks and vans are only allowed to travel at 50km/h. May mga installed device sa mga trucks and van to know that they are travelling faster than 50km/h. Two yellow lights are installed sa roof ng truck or van, and whenever they go beyond the speed limit it will light up. So the police and authorities dont have any difficulty in apprehending them. Also, once the lights are lit, you need to wait an hour before it will be unlighted. Hope this helps on our undirectional country…
Dont do drugs, peace man!!!
54. Bud | September 19th, 2007 at 8:54 am
I’ll be moving to PI soon and ride a Harley over here in U.S. I didn’t know there was a ban on the expressways for motorcycles. It seems the one way you might get the ban lifted for motorcycles is to get the expressway open to at least 250 cc and progress from there. Law makers might listen if they are reminded that the Gov’t receives more tax money from the sale of bigger cc-ed motorcycles than smaller cc bikes. Its just a thought. If its like most countries the politicans understand money above all else…keep the wind in your face
55. ZmartVroisit | September 25th, 2007 at 8:17 pm
FREEDOM
freedom
fREEDOM
Freedom for a democratic philippines.
Freedom on Superhighways.
Freedom for the taxpayer and poor.
Freedom 100% freedom… SOON!!!
The motorist should take the risk or not. They have thier own decision to take the risk.