MCPF Against Crime

[jojo]

calling all mcpf members and none members.

recently we had a meeting with the pnp-ncrpo the meeting was so successful that there will now be a partnership between mcpf and the pnp to help curb crime in the metro.

with this we need you to update your club directory and even individual members can do this.

the directory will be put in the data base of ncrpo in case there is an emergency in your area, the pnp can call on you and ask for your support acting like eyes and ears for them until they arrive. You will also have a special sticker on your bike stating you are a member of this team. ( the mcpf id is sufficient enough for identification)


another thing they are asking is ...... since we have already plates on our bikes, they are asking to put it on their proper place which is the back of your bikes. not on the sides.

also they said that this suggestion has to come from us since they don't want to be another bayani ... hated by the motorcycle community

what they want is a distinguishing mark in the rider's body like your plate number, club or affiliation say mcpf number _______ para pag may crime sa area alam nila kung sino ang kakampi. we were thinking to encourage mcpf members to put the marks like club or mcpf number, or plate number on reflectorized vests since most of us have reflectorized vest. ( since mcpf is advocating safety , the vest is a good tool to prevent accident.)

what do you think

any suggestions???

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[jonott]

Originally Posted by jojo

calling all mcpf members and none members.

recently we had a meeting with the pnp-ncrpo the meeting was so successful that there will now be a partnership between mcpf and the pnp to help curb crime in the metro.

with this we need you to update your club directory and even individual members can do this.

the directory will be put in the data base of ncrpo in case there is an emergency in your area, the pnp can call on you and ask for your support acting like eyes and ears for them until they arrive. You will also have a special sticker on your bike stating you are a member of this team. ( the mcpf id is sufficient enough for identification)


another thing they are asking is ...... since we have already plates on our bikes, they are asking to put it on their proper place which is the back of your bikes. not on the sides.

also they said that this suggestion has to come from us since they don't want to be another bayani ... hated by the motorcycle community

what they want is a distinguishing mark in the rider's body like your plate number, club or affiliation say mcpf number _______ para pag may crime sa area alam nila kung sino ang kakampi. we were thinking to encourage mcpf members to put the marks like club or mcpf number, or plate number on reflectorized vests since most of us have reflectorized vest. ( since mcpf is advocating safety , the vest is a good tool to prevent accident.)

what do you think

any suggestions???

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okay good at nakipagcooperate po sa atin ang pnp and we hope na maging successful po ang araw na ating pagkakaisa sa ipinaglalaban nating mga riders.

paging...paging!

another thing they are asking is ...... since we have already plates on our bikes, they are asking to put it on their proper place which is the back of your bikes. not on the sides

[peterzon_23]

Mr. Jojo,

We here in ZOOM (Marikina City MCP) would be very willing to participate on that fight against crime. You have our full support.

[bulacanrider55]

ok na ok to sir jojo.. lets fight against crime. sticker plate on helmet is not the way to fight the crime...

[Col.TED]

ok ito, Sir Jojo.....on the otherhand, sa part ng PNP as i've suggested on the other thread.....our police force should employ more policewomen on checkpoints since they are more approachable & less intimidating......bale the male police force would act as backup in case the need arises....just my 2 cents

[Jopay22-ZX130]

Boss.. Sama ako dito.. Just inform us..

[Brynd15]

same here count me in....

but paano po kung walang ID ng mcpf or di pa member....

can we still gain the oppurtunity to be on this....

[tuxster]

On behalf of Metro South Scoots, we're with you Jojo.

[jojo]

yes almost anyone pwede basta willing to help our police force kahit na din siguro hindi rider.

kailangan natin gumawa ng data base with name ,area where you live and cell


just like yung ginawa sa kabilang thread na signature campaign against mmda plate sticker we need to gather as much as we can .

can someone put up yung katulad sa signature campaign?

i'll also submit to pnp ang database ng mcpf

salamat mga bro

[VASILI]

up upu pu pu pu up kolang toh kasi malaking tulong toh...sana marami makabaasa.....

[ldz_bungo]

count me in

[Super Osram]

sama po ako, sir jojo.......... though not yet a member yet but planning to, di lang matuloy-tuloy makapunta sa full throttle........

[BoyG]

Please put your suggestions here.
No off topics please and please keep your posts sensible.

Thank you.

[Ronnie V. - XRM]

for me club names on their vest or jersey is enough with MCPF logo which i think all club have... i will encourage my club to wear daily our jersey... ride safely...

[kicker2]

i am not from metro manila but this motorcycle-related crime issues have been bluntly affecting the motorcycling community and even put them in the middle of unjust ordinances that appeared short of saying they are stupid. that WE are stupid...

sir jojo's points are well taken. and our responsibilities being motorcyclists does not just end by being law-abiding motorcycling citizens. it probably has to start from there.... and being vigilant against public crime is just as good as being law-abiding.

it is a great pride taking part as active citizen watchdogs against crime and our being members of the general motorcycling public makes our vigilance at a great advantage, moreso, being members of MCPF.

MCPF stickers and/or IDs may be just as good for us to be indentified by the authorities as their citizen partners but in so displaying the same makes us vulnerable also to criminals as open targets. we may end up victims also instead of being crime-fighters. why? because the criminals will eventually know that we are watchdogs, too.

why don't we just make a wide campaign by putting crime-hate stickers like "bikers are against crimes" or "bikers hate crimes" or "we support PNP in fighting crimes".... well, something to these effects... or "MCP is against crime"...

let's make it a nationwide action...

SYM-BROs and ASHFALT are 100% supportive of this campaign!

[jhingjhe]

We at PSRC (Philippines Suzuki Riders Club) always support the MCPF, Thanks sir Jojo for making MCPF a Crime fighter Federation... I'm proud to be one of it

[miguel96]

considering the lack of manpower and logistical resources of the pnp, they simply cannot provide the needed police visibility to deter crimes on the streets. the motorcycle community, with its growing number can be part of their intelligence network, providing vital information concerning peace and order issues. i suggest the clubs coordinate with the local pnp and their intelligence arm to establish a certain relationship. those who are really willing to go all out can even have themselves documented as agents/assets but that may be going too far .

[archangel_1911]

This is a very nice suggestion, Lets make them know that we really are law abiding and help them by being vigilant against law breakers.
I agree with kicker2 that we make this campaign nationwide, anyway MCPF is not only within the country but we also have members outside the country.

[dgabinete]

i support this move by mcpf and PNP...sana lang, with the release of the said sticker that will be issued by PNP, sana wag gamitin sa ibang bagay at maging law-abiding citizens tayo...

[KIPS150]

Since being a good citizen is as just simple as living a simple life. We don't know the criminals style and ways. We may ask the local police group to conduct a seminar to the active bikers community in order to form a so called motorcycle crime reduction group.

Up to date, there are numerous community groups such as Crime Watch-Bantay Bayan (Of Baranggay Officials) the local authorities again might include them on a upcoming events for crime watch campaign informations, schemes in reporting and watchfull process in dealing with criminal acts. A yearly campaign should be laid not only by one stop agenda and thats it. Ask help to local goverment officials for the community participation.

Acting and participating in such crime watch group is a big risk. Criminals and criminal organizations are not deaf, mostly they do with intimidations, the big question how can we dealt to such situation? Lastly i hope but i know another big budget to the goverment, a network database vehicle registry scheme system can be implemeted to provide a speedy information to any suspected vehicles plus a well equipped armaments. Imagine nowadays goons use HK's and others full auto on handguns only,while our police force only use Armscor mades funding is necessary they should upgrade themselves.

[jackshocks]

Good suggestions and comments, guys! Having IDs or something that would identify you is I think enough for us riders. I believe that it's so unpractical or ridiculous for a rider to still wear jackets or shirts with logos or stickers or their PLATE #(?) [HELLO!] so as not to be identified as crooks everytime he/she would go out for a ride. How if you just came to the Philippines for a vacation? kailangan mo pang magsuot ng ganyan? Is riding a motorcycle in our country, too troublesome? Riding a motorcycle should have that feeling of fun, excitement, and freedom(not to do trouble or bad things), isn't it? Kaya kayong nasa gobyerno, mag-isip isip naman kayo ng maayos! Mga Pilipino tayo na marurunong umintinde ng tama o mali, pangit o maganda. Kaya sana yung makabuluhang solusyon ang pairalin at hindi dinadaan sa kung anu-ano o basta-bastang panukalang batas. Kawawa naman ang Pinoy riders!

[albertus]

I see that the COPS is taking effect (Community Oriented Policing System).
The authorities do their part but well take into consideration the ratio of the force versus the population.
Like in my city its 1 police man for every 500 citizen.
With that and the C.O.P.S in mind, it works both ways for us riders and helping curb what caused the proposal for the sticker on helmets...which is criminal activities involving MC's.

Fella's...broham's...heres a another chance we can contribute to our community. Via the Community Oriented Policing System.

Im confident that this will be supported.

Kips150 has a brought up a brilliant idea about the PNP conducting seminars. I believe this is very possible and its just a matter of request.

It is not a secret that the PNP have their own confidential agents roam with bikes. If a rider wants to bring his duties up to the next level...You may also do that. Now you not only contribute solely for the purpose of curbing criminal activities involving bikes but in general as well. (-:

Mabuhay!

[ardiepot]

Respectfully sirs, I don't think that these measurements will decrease the crime rate. This will just put a club member not on the list of criminals, and it may even include one also. What if these criminals use the club membership's logo? What if I had a ceratin number of rides? Should I stitch all the plate numbers on my jackets? I am a proud member of the MCPF. But I have to think on putting Patches to all of my jackets.

Stickers on bikes puwede, but would these deter the crimes? A criminal could get one also.

How about those who have no groups? Those who ride to work everyday?

If this will come to law, I have to abide.

This ultimately is a clear sign of the PNP's lack of presence, will, law enforcement, and much more negatives.

[tribs]

The idea is great but let me play devil's advocate:
a) The Citizen's Patrol is a wonderful idea. It needs to be taken care of very well and specific guidelines should be made. In other countries like Japan, the UK motorcycle clubs have made it a part of their internal mandate to assist the authorities in case of safety, traffic assistance, etc.

b) There are many risks in this Citizen's Patrol. KIPS 150 made a very strong point for consideration. Let me extend this further--the actual safety of the motorcyclists. The seminar suggested should also discuss the possible abuses that could crop up from civilians assisting in police activities and set specific limits--a span of management if you will.

c) Kicker 2 suggestion is a powerful PR tool. It should be done immediately! It also gives a visual signal of who is the enemy. However caution again. The official stickers should be available only from the bike clubs or MCP etc. You know what I mean.

d) About the IDs? How formal is the membership to MCP. I have been reading and listening in since 2005 but I am not a formal member. Membership to a group=ID, group meetings, etc. It also binds the member to the constitution of the group. Another good idea.

e) The vest idea: enough said. Very good!

f) License plate. Please mount properly in the right place and do not cloud the plates with colored covers, etc.

g) What needs to be thought about? Keeping the reputation of the bike clubs (MCP, etc.) and ensure that as many members are taken in. I guess riders who are members of any club are a minority. How to get more people in? Critical to this suggestion is for government to require legitimate membership to a bike club before licensing? Is this possible?

Overall, government should have started a forum with the bikers clubs FIRST before making their crazy rules. Thanks to MCP!

[bulacanrider55]

Bulacan Riders Organization 2000 always here to have a full support to mcpf/pnp ipakita natin na kahit civilian lng tyo kaya natin labanan ang krimen sa wastong paraan,, kailangan lang talaga natin ng pagkakaisa at pagsunod sa batas. sana walang pasaway lalo na sa mcpf members ipakita natin na tyong mga member ng mcpf ang idolo ng mga nakababata nating mga newbie riders. i salute you sir jojo and to all the mcpf diectors. MORE POWER TO MOTORCYCLE PHILIPPINES FEDERATION!!!