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Old August 8th, 2006
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pati ba naman deed of sale?

last friday i was riding my bike along marcos hi-way..i was stopped by a police officer at the checkpoint near the shell station..aside from the OR CR they wer also asking for the Deed of Sale..BAKEEEET????



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hanapan ba ng butas? insurance hindi hinanap? hehehe
sayo ba naka name yung OR/CR, kung sayo.
wala akong maisip na reason kung bat kailangan yun,
unless, bibilangin nya kung ilang days old na yung bike mo hehehe
pinalusot ka ba naman nung wala kang deed of sale?
antay natin iba magreply baka may masmalufet na reason.
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kung hindi naka-pangalan sayo ang bike, kakailanganin talaga ipakita ang deed of sale imho. para me proof ka na sa iyo na nga talaga ang bike.

sample lang... kung na-check point ang isang nagnakaw ng bike. pinakita ang OR-CR na normally naman eh meron sa compartment. lusot na. kung hinanapan ng deed of sale dahil hindi naka-pangalan sa kanya? walang ipinakita, or meron man sa compartment, hindi naman naka-pangalan din sa kanya, huli! ganyan narecover ang skut namin na nanakaw last year.

ang tanong lang, paano kung hiram lang ang bike? sa akin noon, tinawagan ako nung nanghiram sa akin at pinakausap sa pulis na nakasita. hehehe
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kung hindi naka-pangalan sayo ang bike, kakailanganin talaga ipakita ang deed of sale imho. para me proof ka na sa iyo na nga talaga ang bike.

sample lang... kung na-check point ang isang nagnakaw ng bike. pinakita ang OR-CR na normally naman eh meron sa compartment. lusot na. kung hinanapan ng deed of sale dahil hindi naka-pangalan sa kanya? walang ipinakita, or meron man sa compartment, hindi naman naka-pangalan din sa kanya, huli! ganyan narecover ang skut namin na nanakaw last year.

ang tanong lang, paano kung hiram lang ang bike? sa akin noon, tinawagan ako nung nanghiram sa akin at pinakausap sa pulis na nakasita. hehehe
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tama sir if you own a bike or at cr mo e nakapangalan sayo walang anuman rason para i hold ka pero kung second hand mo nabili dapat dala mo lagi kahit photo copy lang ng or at cr pati deed of sale.
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Sa kotse kaya ganun din? Madalas yung mga ginagamit kong sasakyan hindi akin eh. Pero napaka bihira naman ma checkpoint ang cage.

Brader lacsi, yung nangyari sa friend natin sa AK diba nung na checkpoint walang dala na deed of sale na impound yung motor? Natubos lang nya kinabukasan nung pinakita na nya yung deed of sale, nagbayad pa sya ng impounding fee. Magdala ka na para sigurado, hirap lagi makipagtalo.
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kahit photocopy lang bro ok na yun,alam ko pag 2nd bike,needed talaga yun..always bring with photocopied or and cr na rin..
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Mas mainanam para walang hassle ay ipa-transfer na ang ownership sa nakabili or if hiram lang, dapat sigurong may dalang authorization na ipinahiram nga ang bike...
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Mas mainanam para walang hassle ay ipa-transfer na ang ownership sa nakabili or if hiram lang, dapat sigurong may dalang authorization na ipinahiram nga ang bike...
Bro magkano aabutin pag pina-transfer ung ownership ng isang bike yung sakin kasi nabili ko paso na rehistro plus gusto ko ilagay sa pangalan ko? Ano mga requirements? Ano step by step procedures?
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deed of sale hinahanap? :eek:

Maari ka ngang hanapan ng deed of sale kung hindi sa iyo nakapangalan yung bike. Kaya ako lagi ako may dala photocopy ng deed of sale, OR/CR at pati na rin yung TPL. Atleast sure ako na paghinanapan ako meron ako dala.


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Bro magkano aabutin pag pina-transfer ung ownership ng isang bike yung sakin kasi nabili ko paso na rehistro plus gusto ko ilagay sa pangalan ko? Ano mga requirements? Ano step by step procedures?
Kakaparehistro ko pa lang ng bike ko last Friday. Unfortunately hindi ko pa naipatransfer of ownership. Baket kamo? Php648 ang price ng Verification Letter ng PNP-TMG. Ganun sila kamahal magserbisyo. E ang dala ko lang pera Php1,200 lang. Rehistro pa lang Php480 na, Emission Testing Php300, TPL Php380 plus kakain ka pa. Asus... antayin mo na lang next registration mo bago ka magpachange ownership.
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procedure nga pala ganito...

1. Punta ka sa PNP-TMG office (meron nun sa Pasig Kapitolyo o kaya sa Crame)
2. Request ka ng Verification Letter sa kanila.
3. Ang payment thru Landbank so pupunta ka ng any Landbank branch na malapit tapos yung reciept (kung meron at dapat meron) dadalhin mo pabalik ng PNP-TMG office para maclaim mo yung Letter.
4. Diretso ka na sa any Emission testing center na approved ng LTO.
5. Pagnatesting ka na sa emission mo, punta ka naman sa mga nagbebenta ng TPL (insurance).
6. Pagkakuha mo ng insurance, meron nagveverify ng insurance sa LTO (sa Makati ganun e)
7. Tapos pasa mo na papers mo sa first window. (dapat andun yung TPL, Emission Testing Result na pasado syempre, Photocopy ng Deed of Sale, Photocopy ng any ID nung nagbenta sa iyo ng MC at syempre Photocoy ng ID mo) Tatawagin ka na lang nila for Motor Vehicle Inspection.
8. Pagkakuha nila ng STENCIL ng VIN (vehicle ID number) mo babalik ang papel mo another window for verification. Maghihintay ka ng mga 2-3 hours grabe nagutom ako dito.
9. Tatawagin ang pangalan mo sa cashier para magbayad.
10. After payment makukuha mo na yung iyong registration sticker.
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Maari ka ngang hanapan ng deed of sale kung hindi sa iyo nakapangalan yung bike. Kaya ako lagi ako may dala photocopy ng deed of sale, OR/CR at pati na rin yung TPL. Atleast sure ako na paghinanapan ako meron ako dala.


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Kakaparehistro ko pa lang ng bike ko last Friday. Unfortunately hindi ko pa naipatransfer of ownership. Baket kamo? Php648 ang price ng Verification Letter ng PNP-TMG. Ganun sila kamahal magserbisyo. E ang dala ko lang pera Php1,200 lang. Rehistro pa lang Php480 na, Emission Testing Php300, TPL Php380 plus kakain ka pa. Asus... antayin mo na lang next registration mo bago ka magpachange ownership.
ako 2,500 inabot lahat change of ownership at pinarehistro na pati..pinalakad ko lang pero pag kelangan ako na mag appear sumasama ako sa nagpalakad..
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Ayos!!! Maraming salamat mga kaibigan. At least alam nyo ang gagawin. Talagang ganyan mabagal talaga kumilos pag sa gobyerno... Mahal din pala nag talent fee ng mga fixers...
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salamat sa mga nagreply..di ko lang talaga maintindihan yun logic kung bakit kailangan ng deed of sale..wala naman law prohibiting people to drive other peoples vehicle di ba?..papano kung nanghiram ka lang?..labo eh..
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anyway..pinadaan din nga pala ko..
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salamat sa mga nagreply..di ko lang talaga maintindihan yun logic kung bakit kailangan ng deed of sale..wala naman law prohibiting people to drive other peoples vehicle di ba?..papano kung nanghiram ka lang?..labo eh..
this is true. no such law that prohibits driving a borrowed vehicle.
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salamat sa mga nagreply..di ko lang talaga maintindihan yun logic kung bakit kailangan ng deed of sale..wala naman law prohibiting people to drive other peoples vehicle di ba?..papano kung nanghiram ka lang?..labo eh..
i agree bro. kaya lang, very rampant ang nakawan ng motor ngayon. sa tingin ko, dalhin na lang natin ang mga kailangan para hassle free ang ride natin. as i have posted earlier, nakatulong ito para ma-recover ang jet namin last year.
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been bothered lang sa mga replies... my opinion... wala naman batas na dapat nasa pangalan mo ang sasakyan na minamaneho mo.. SOP lang na dapat may photo copy ka ng OR/CR lagi.. pero pati "photo copy ng deed of sale"? mejo mahirap ata yan.. panu pag ninakaw sayo ang sasakyan.. nandyan ang signature ng seller.. mapapadali ata sa mag nanakaw ma-iforge ang signature ng seller.. eh di wala ka na habol kung saka-sakali makagawa ng documento yan... im not saying na hindi mo dapat i-lipat sa pangalan mo ang sasakyan... pero as the owner of the vehicle.. lets protect the integrity of our property..

kasi kahit pumara ka ng 10 kotse sa kalye... mas mataas ata ang bilang ng sasakyan na wala sa pangalan nila pero legal... wala yang dalang deed of sale pero im sure meron yan sa bahay nila..
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Sa kotse kaya ganun din? Madalas yung mga ginagamit kong sasakyan hindi akin eh. Pero napaka bihira naman ma checkpoint ang cage.

Brader lacsi, yung nangyari sa friend natin sa AK diba nung na checkpoint walang dala na deed of sale na impound yung motor? Natubos lang nya kinabukasan nung pinakita na nya yung deed of sale, nagbayad pa sya ng impounding fee. Magdala ka na para sigurado, hirap lagi makipagtalo.
huh? baka naman hindi-registered ang bike kaya na-impound? pero kung REGISTERED & MAY DALA KANG PHOTO COPY NG OR/CR, MAY LISENSYA KA kahit wala pa yan sa pangalan mo... BASTA REGISTERED! eh ibang usapan na ata yan... wala atang na i-apprehend ka dahil dyan. the mere fact na i-hold ka after showing all your documents is abuse of the law... kung aku dun sa friend mo dinemanda ko yung nang-huli sa kanya..
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procedure nga pala ganito...

1. Punta ka sa PNP-TMG office (meron nun sa Pasig Kapitolyo o kaya sa Crame)
2. Request ka ng Verification Letter sa kanila.
3. Ang payment thru Landbank so pupunta ka ng any Landbank branch na malapit tapos yung reciept (kung meron at dapat meron) dadalhin mo pabalik ng PNP-TMG office para maclaim mo yung Letter.
4. Diretso ka na sa any Emission testing center na approved ng LTO.
5. Pagnatesting ka na sa emission mo, punta ka naman sa mga nagbebenta ng TPL (insurance).
6. Pagkakuha mo ng insurance, meron nagveverify ng insurance sa LTO (sa Makati ganun e)
7. Tapos pasa mo na papers mo sa first window. (dapat andun yung TPL, Emission Testing Result na pasado syempre, Photocopy ng Deed of Sale, Photocopy ng any ID nung nagbenta sa iyo ng MC at syempre Photocoy ng ID mo) Tatawagin ka na lang nila for Motor Vehicle Inspection.
8. Pagkakuha nila ng STENCIL ng VIN (vehicle ID number) mo babalik ang papel mo another window for verification. Maghihintay ka ng mga 2-3 hours grabe nagutom ako dito.
9. Tatawagin ang pangalan mo sa cashier para magbayad.
10. After payment makukuha mo na yung iyong registration sticker.
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Tama si Brother Jeff. But if I may add, dont forget to indicate in the deed of sale your residence certificate number. better have it photocopied also.

Then in case you dont have the photocopy of the vendor's ID, pagawa ka na rin ng affidavit na di mo na malocate yung owner.

Bring all the necessary documents before having it processed para iwas ka sa maraming hassles.

There are some evaluators na it seems , tuwang tuwa sila na pabalik-balikin ka nila. Tamad kasing tingnan lahat na dala mong documents. Paisa-isa.

I should know one. Just recently had it at LTO Diliman. Imagine I arrived there at 8:30 am, natapos me 2pm. Wheoh!

Sarap ngang ihulog sa bunganga ng Mayon yung isang evaluator don.
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pano kung OPEN deed of sale ang dala natin? just like what i have...
i suggest dala na lang tayo ng picture ng bike natin na may kasamang pulis.. hehe.. (pun intended)... but not a bad idea eh?
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Ako din ng binili ko tong MC ko noong 2002 inayos ko kagad deed of sale at pinapalitan ko na ng pangalan sa OR at CR para wala ngang hasel sa mga checkpoint checkpoint. Kasi alam ko na gagawa at gawa ng mga dahilan ang mga autoridad para mahuli ka at makotongan ka.

Kaya ako pag-checkpoint, kahit lisensya lang hinahanap ino-offer ko ng ipakita OR at CR ko or vice versa.

Kaya I advise sa mga bumibili ng secondhand na MC papalitan nyo na kagad pangalan ng OR / CR. Kahit gumastos ng medyo malaki kesa naman ngayon ka peperwisyuhin.
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yan mga bro case to case basis lahat yan sinabi nyo,paano kung buy n sell dba every time ba dapat transfer mo sa pangalan mo yun car o motorcycle,hindi dba bahala yun bibili,ang isa pa walang pa d.o ang lto na kailangan ang deed of sale dala mo,kasi paano nga yun mga buy n sell open deed of sale lahat yun sasakyan paano yun,hindi din nakapangalan sayo o pirma mo dun minsan kasi yan mga parak nag hahanap lang ng butas para sa kotong nila o nagtatangahan....
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ewan ko ba bakit ang pulis ang tingin sa mamayan pilipino hudlum,npa masasamang loob,kung maghanap sila ng butas kala mo crminal ka,hayup ng mga parak yan,(hindi naman lahat)pero yun hindi kasamang bulok ay magiging bulok din me kasabihan tayo yun kamatis na hindi bulok isama mo sa isang kain na bulok ay dagling mabubulok din kaya,kayong mga parak na bulok mabuti pa sa inyo ^&*&**&%$#@@$ kayo! hindi kayo magsi^%%#@#!@*&^$# tay,hehehehehehehehehehehe
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Thing we can do to avoid hassles re: Subject

I agree with insomia. You have your signature at your deed of sale. So, ano gagawin natin? Here are some list we can do.

What we always need to bring:
1. Have your OR/CR (photocopy) always ready in your bike. Regardless if it was registered on your name or not.
2. At least a copy of LTO Fines and Charges to penalties. This would guide us to whatever charges we are aprehended. Atleast we could check whether our violation is written or acceptable.
3. Any Identification (ID). This would show that you are not giving them incorrect information regarding your identity. This would atleast help them not to be misleaded on your identity.

What to do if apprehended:
1. Show whatever documents they require. If you are required to show off your OR/CR then show them off. In case they look after your Deed of Sale (just incase you do not bring along one) tell them that you have it though you do not bring them along for your own good. If they insist....
2. Take the information of the officer who apprehended you. It is your right to ask for any information reagrding this officer who apprehended you. You can demand for that since you are protecting your interest. This would also help you just in case the officer is abusing his authority. Do not be afraid. Ask for his name, area designation, office, rank, officer in charge, and other information such as ID, liscense and badge. You have the right over your property. If your property is to be impounded take every information regarding these people for your reference.
3. Keep your temper low. Avoid arguments! This would only increase the tension between you and the officer. Keep your voice down as much as you could. You could never win over the argument whether you are the one who is right.
4. Submit to authority.Never give bribes! Submit to authority. If the violation is acceptable, admit it and pay the price.
5. Call somebody you know to help you out in the scenario that you cannot handle alone.Not all the times we can handle things out. Never hesitate to call for help to anybody we know we can rely on. It is much better if we know anybody who have knowledge regarding Legalities and Laws.
6. Never forget to ask God for guidance!!!

Just in case we have something in mind just add it up to the list and repost it. Thanks.
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