What should a rider's first aid kit contain?

[scootriska]

What should a rider's first aid kit contain?

[jeff_o]

first aide kit aside... a cellphone wud be very impt. to contact fellow riders

[SmashGear]

bring alcohol.. ndi yung nakakalasing ha

[stormrider]

my first aid kit under the seat has...

individually wrapped sterile gauze pads
plaster
betadyne solution
elastic bandage
non-drowsy headache pain reliever
anti lbm tablets

[rls]

Basic First Aid Kit usually contains:
? Adhesive strips (2 sizes)
? Latex gloves
? Fingertip bandages
? Tweezers
? Knuckle bandages
? Antibiotics
? Butterfly closures
? Cold pack
? Antiseptic
? Hydrocortizone
? Alcohol preps
? Ammonia inhalants
? Healiprin tablets
? Gauze pad and bandages (Different sizes)

Here's another one:
http://www.walkabouttravelgear.com/firstaid.htm

[tukayo]

Of course we're talking about putting the kit in the compartment area, but won't the heat spoil the medicines?

[spdfgtr]

in case of an accident, do not hand over the alcohol to rls otherwise be prepared to suffer even more pain. :8

[nikki]

my 1st aid kit:

1. DUCT TAPE - good for everything.
2. cardboard cutter.
3. garbage bag.

4. gauze bandage/micropore tape.
5. alcohol/betadine.
6. aspirin.

[tka]

addendum :
- elastic bandage
- telephone numbers of emergency services / hospital emergency rooms

[Idstrazzen]

Nikki,

Garbage Bag?... hopefully not for BODY BAG use!

FIRST AID KIT:

Get the complete set straight out of a drug store complete with certified updated instructions. It'll fit most storage compartments specially the ones for automobile use.

And most of all 1st aid training like the ones they offer for mountain climbing would be really useful.

[nikki]

Originally posted by Idstrazzen
Nikki,

Garbage Bag?... hopefully not for BODY BAG use!

hahahahahh!!

here's my explanation (of the 1st 3 items):

given situation: extreme emergency situation with bleeding victim with only the 3 items you have.

you can use part of your clothings or part of the victim's clothings as a bandage substitute. cut the cloth with your card board cutter according to its needs. use the duct tape to fasten the patch of cloth. use the garbage bag to protect the victim or yourself from a cold climate (if its cold or raining).

you can improvised splints from newspaper or anything else (common sense lang) and fasten it with a duct tape.

though im not advising to strip the victim under the sun and cover him with a plastic bag!! (that would be HELL!!)

IMO, 1st aid kits available on your drugstores is only good for minor stuffs.

LASTLY, it would be very beneficial for you and to others around you, if you enroll yourself to Red Cross Basic First Aid course.

[Rene Ybardolaza]

I second the comment on first aid kits being useless for the type of need we would have in case of an accident.....

Bleeding is probably the biggest problem a rider will encounter, next is broken bones, so band aid and aspirin will not do it. Bandages and lots of tape to apply pressure to stop bleeding. As Nikki said, splint can be made from almost anything (branches, broken handlebar).

If going off-road, add a snake bite kit. I always have water purification tablets just in case I get stranded somewhere.

Jeff_o's recommendation is probably the best addition to the kit.

[Idstrazzen]

The first aid kit wouldn't be capable of aiding major accidents but we must not forget it's a First Aid Kit. It suppose to provide the basic components of providing a sterile aid until help (real doctors/trauma team) to get to the scene or a suitable vehicle is available to transport the victim.

It would be nice to do a Rambo (self mending) after a crash but really...no amount of scrap wood and tape will mend any rider back in shape in case of a major crash & take a ride to the nearest hospital.

In fact it would be better not to move the victim (unless necessary) in case of a BIG accident and administer first aid.

A simple wound for a minor lowside that get's infected could turn out major. So justifies the lowly First Aid Kit.

Be Safe & Have A Fun Ride!!!

[CaMoTe!!!]

Originally posted by Idstrazzen


FIRST AID KIT:

Get the complete set straight out of a drug store complete with certified updated instructions. It'll fit most storage compartments specially the ones for automobile use.

And most of all 1st aid training like the ones they offer for mountain climbing would be really useful.

e di mas mabuti kung dun ka na sa red cross bumili ng kit... sigurado kang lahat ng essential andun, nakatulong ka pa sa red cross...

who knows, the next life they save, may be your own...

[CaMoTe!!!]

nikki,

you sound like a trained (licensed) medic... are you??? i was once too... just got so busy to pursue the instructor's course...




anybody wanna set up a training schedule??? for sure it would be of great importance to know what to do in case of crashes... most of us go on group rides, so if ever a fellow rider crashes, the others would know what to do, when to do and how to do properly...

red cross trains for a fee... the good side of it is you get a certificate (license). remember, the philippines, unlike most countries like the USA, has no "good samaritan" law, so a certification would be best to your advantage.

or we could arrange a training from the mmda metro rescue... or the muntinlupa rescue (the best medics in the metro) for free... same training, and most of the time, same trainors as the red cross... they issue certificates too, but not the license. gets???

but in the philippines, only the PNRC is authorized to issue the licenses....

but then again, with license or no license, what's important is when the need arises, you know what to do...

anybody wanna set it up, lemme know...

[nikki]

Originally posted by CaMoTe!!!
nikki,

you sound like a trained (licensed) medic... are you??? i was once too... just got so busy to pursue the instructor's course...

Yes I was. I used to be a Red Cross volunteer with ID/certification but was not so active on our local Red Cross chapter.

but later on I joined a local civic action group (which main purpose is rescue operations). i received training ranging from urban search & rescue, fire fighting, ambulatory procedure, basic water safety. i've also seen and been to live actions. I've been with a reckless ambulance driver that almost got us killed

but that was college days (1994-98).. and just like you i got busy after grad.

IMO Red Cross would be your best choice to take the 1st aid course, they have maniquins where you can perform AR/CPR. And the best part is that they will not give you an ID/certification if you fail to pass the final test. RC offers (i think) 4 courses - basic, intermediate, advance, & water Safety.

[Jake]

I'm in.

[CaMoTe!!!]

Originally posted by nikki
but later on I joined a local civic action group (which main purpose is rescue operations). i received training ranging from urban search & rescue, fire fighting, ambulatory procedure, basic water safety. i've also seen and been to live actions. I've been with a reckless ambulance driver that almost got us killed

RC offers (i think) 4 courses - basic, intermediate, advance, & water Safety.

what civic group were you in??? i myself am a member of one.. check the hyperlink at the bottom.... i also used to be a volunteer fire fighter of a filipino chinese fire brigade... a pioneer in our brigade...

Red cross also has the instructor's course... and the muntinlupa rescue and the mmda metro rescue also has the rescusi-anne and the rescusi-baby... the manequins you are talking about for trainings... good part is, training is free... but of course you have to take care of the instructors... so a minimal fee should be in order to participants....

two questions that always arise in trainings :

1. how do you know if what you are doing to anne and/or baby is correct???

2. how do you CPR a hunchback???

lemme know if you have an idea...

[nikki]

>> what civic group were you in???

KFI - RESCUE 110. Its a small group tied with our local fire stations (including our local filipino chinese fire brigade), the citys disaster coordinating council, and the boy scout emergency corps.


1. how do you know if what you are doing to anne and/or baby is correct???

green light (or was that green??? the last time ive seen ann was late 1994) ..


2. how do you CPR a hunchback???

now im glad i haven't performed CPR.. hmmm how come our instructor forgot to teach us this?? but if my common sense will be use i can do it one handed, with the victim lying on my lap (cross wise), or perform it while the victim is on his side. provided that the victim doesn't need to be immobilize or has no fractures.


Our basic fire fighting course was conducted by one of our friendly DILG fire station. that was loads of fun! the bolards and the asbestos coat, how to throw the hose, how to assist the nozzle man, how to handle the nozzle.

Our ambulatory procedure and other rescue instructions was conducted by those guys from DCC/DILG/Phil. Boy Scout/Phil. Red Cross personnels which are also a member of our civic group.

Our batch is the only batch that receives these trainings. But generally the local BoyScout Emergency Corps were also an automatic member of our group, which were trained the same but with the additional jungle survival skills.

[CaMoTe!!!]

Originally posted by nikki
>> what civic group were you in???

KFI - RESCUE 110. Its a small group tied with our local fire stations (including our local filipino chinese fire brigade), the citys disaster coordinating council, and the boy scout emergency corps.


1. how do you know if what you are doing to anne and/or baby is correct???

green light (or was that green??? the last time ive seen ann was late 1994) ..


2. how do you CPR a hunchback???

now im glad i haven't performed CPR.. hmmm how come our instructor forgot to teach us this?? but if my common sense will be use i can do it one handed, with the victim lying on my lap (cross wise), or perform it while the victim is on his side. provided that the victim doesn't need to be immobilize or has no fractures.


Our basic fire fighting course was conducted by one of our friendly DILG fire station. that was loads of fun! the bolards and the asbestos coat, how to throw the hose, how to assist the nozzle man, how to handle the nozzle.

Our ambulatory procedure and other rescue instructions was conducted by those guys from DCC/DILG/Phil. Boy Scout/Phil. Red Cross personnels which are also a member of our civic group.

Our batch is the only batch that receives these trainings. But generally the local BoyScout Emergency Corps were also an automatic member of our group, which were trained the same but with the additional jungle survival skills.

nice nikki!!! you got the answer to the first question correctly... i don't know if the other's get what we are talking about, but during trainings, it's just funny that when an someone asks "pano natin alam kung tama ginagawa natin?", someone answers "pag umilaw na"... i mean, in real life, there are no green lights!! gets???

about the hunchback, i would ask you to try again... it's a joke, by the way, so don't take it seriously... some answer, "get a plywood with a hole big enough to fit the hunched back ... doing it sideways is impossible 'coz you won't have the resistance needed when you pump...

one more guess sir??

or is it a ma'am???

by the way, what's the area of coverage of KFI??? and what does kfi stand for?

[Hercules]

Originally posted by CaMoTe!!!
.................."get a plywood with a hole big enough to fit the hunched back ..........

hahahaha!!! that was a good one.