A word of caution on the LS2 MX 433 helmet

[Vmax]

Just a friendly advice to those planning to buy or already using the LS2MX 433 helmet. I wore mine for the first time yesterday in STAR going to Lipa. There was indeed, some reflection that could get pretty disturbing when the sun hits the lens but I could live with that. At around 100 kph, the peak all of a sudden moved down and covered my lens and of course, my vision. That was scary as hell! I pushed it back up but it came down just as fast. With as much care as I could given the situation, I held it up with my left alternating with my right hand, and clumsily pulled over to the side.

Upon checking, the top screw apparently flew off, leaving the beak no anchor to prevent it from going down toward my field of vision. I had to unscrew the two remaining screws on both sides of the beak to remove it. Only then was I able to proceed.

Upon reaching home, I checked my Zeus 2100B motard. I wouldn't have had the same problem as the round hole where the top screw comes in has an elevated border, which effectively prevents its peak from falling. My Shoie Hornet DS peak is even more firmly anchored.

I'm not saying don't get the helmet since it does look awesome and is ECE-rated. However, this is an obvious flaw in its design. Just make certain the peak is firmly screwed on all the time, and check it often whenever you use it because the wind will keep pushing it up when you ride, perhaps to a point where the top screw could fly off!

Better safe than sorry!

[GUNDAM168]

What brand LS2MX 433?

[Vmax]

Originally Posted by GUNDAM168

What brand LS2MX 433?

LS2 is the brand sir. MX 433 is its motard version.

[Col.TED]

aaawts...pretty scary nga...planning to get one too pa naman....thanks for the heads up,sir Vmax!

[customerservice]

Sad to hear about that mishap.. and will surely check on that top screw every ride.. used mine last Sunday pushing really hard at Pranjetos zig zag's then going to Famy Toping at 170kph not even thinking that might happen ......

Tried to remove that screw and covered the lens ... nako po ...... vision is covered completely.. very scary scenario....

this should be a sticky thread...

[ryan]

Hi Doc!

Sorry to hear about this incident and glad to know you're safe!

I just informed my friend in LS2 and if you have time, please write to them directly also through their website.

Thanks!

[Vmax]

Thanks Col. Ted.
I knew you'd be on top of it Ryan. Thanks. I went to their website but could only find info@ls2helmets.com. That was the email address I used to send my letter.

Meanwhile, I will have to find a way to screw it on again and maybe put glue on it so it becomes fixed.

[Vmax]

Originally Posted by ryan

Hi Doc!

Sorry to hear about this incident and glad to know you're safe!

I just informed my friend in LS2 and if you have time, please write to them directly also through their website.

Thanks!

I'm still waiting for a reply from LS2 Ryan. Meanwhile, I sent you a PM in MCA. Thank you for your patience.

[xrmlifted]

Originally Posted by Col.TED

aaawts...pretty scary nga...planning to get one too pa naman....thanks for the heads up,sir Vmax!

ako din eh, balak ko sana bumili

[Vmax]

Just an update sir. I glued the short top screw already. So far, of all the motards I've seen, the MX 433 is the only one that will drop down and fully cover your lens when the top screw flies off. As I said before, better safe than sorry.

I also finally got a reply from LS2. They are modifying the design. Unfortunately for those who have bought, they didn't mention anything about any recalls. Let me just ask them by email anyway. Ride safe hombres!!

Hi sir,

Tks very much for your email. And pleased to know that you would like to try our LS2 helmets.

According to your following information, we have asked our team to check it and now we have modified it.

Tks for your good suggestion, with your suggestion, we are sure we will be more and more professional.

If you have any question, don’t hesitate to let us know.


Thanks and best regards

David Quan

Tech Design Team, S.L.

Avenida del Valles 306

08227 Terrassa, Barcelona, SPAIN

Tel +34 933 967 948

Fax +34 937 318 393 Skype: quanyugui

Spanish Cell +34 661 527 668 Chinese Tel +86 750 8309208 Chinese Cell +86 13632082111

d.quan@ls2helmets.es

www.ls2helmets.com

[Vmax]

I just fired off a quick reply.

Dear David,

Thank you for responding favorably to my letter. May I know exactly how you modified the helmet?

You may also want to address the unwanted reflection on the lower portion of the lens in your next batch of MX 433 helmets. In the meantime, I respectfully suggest that you offer to recall those helmets you already sold and install the corrective measure on them. One unfortunate mishap attributed to this falsely-designed helmet will certainly put your company in a bad light.


My kind regards to you and to LS2.

[gl3nborj]

Originally Posted by Col.TED

aaawts...pretty scary nga...planning to get one too pa naman....thanks for the heads up,sir Vmax!

Sir yan po ba yung 2K + lang sa motoword?

[Vmax]

It's P3000. sir.

[Vmax]

Originally Posted by Vmax

I just fired off a quick reply.

Dear David,

Thank you for responding favorably to my letter. May I know exactly how you modified the helmet?

You may also want to address the unwanted reflection on the lower portion of the lens in your next batch of MX 433 helmets. In the meantime, I respectfully suggest that you offer to recall those helmets you already sold and install the corrective measure on them. One unfortunate mishap attributed to this falsely-designed helmet will certainly put your company in a bad light.


My kind regards to you and to LS2.

And here is an equally quick reply from LS2. Since he did not mention anything about the possibility of recalling those helmets sold, I guess they have no intention of doing so. Oh well, so long as the next batches are better and more safely designed, I'd be happy.
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RE: Re MX 433
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Monday, January 18, 2010 6:27:46

From:	LS2 David Quan ...

Hi sir,

Tks for your email.

We have informed our distributor how to fit it. I think he will take care of this things

If you have any question, don’t hesitate to let us know.


Thanks and best regards

David Quan

[dhennis20]

thanks for the info sir VMAX

hopefully this could be rectified soon

[underthereggae]

Originally Posted by Vmax

Just a friendly advice to those planning to buy or already using the LS2MX 433 helmet. I wore mine for the first time yesterday in STAR going to Lipa. There was indeed, some reflection that could get pretty disturbing when the sun hits the lens but I could live with that. At around 100 kph, the peak all of a sudden moved down and covered my lens and of course, my vision. That was scary as hell! I pushed it back up but it came down just as fast. With as much care as I could given the situation, I held it up with my left alternating with my right hand, and clumsily pulled over to the side.

Upon checking, the top screw apparently flew off, leaving the beak no anchor to prevent it from going down toward my field of vision. I had to unscrew the two remaining screws on both sides of the beak to remove it. Only then was I able to proceed.

Upon reaching home, I checked my Zeus 2100B motard. I wouldn't have had the same problem as the round hole where the top screw comes in has an elevated border, which effectively prevents its peak from falling. My Shoie Hornet DS peak is even more firmly anchored.

I'm not saying don't get the helmet since it does look awesome and is ECE-rated. However, this is an obvious flaw in its design. Just make certain the peak is firmly screwed on all the time, and check it often whenever you use it because the wind will keep pushing it up when you ride, perhaps to a point where the top screw could fly off!

Better safe than sorry!

sir may ganito sa classified ads.....


binebenta...


i wonder kung nabasa ng seller to.....

[MCP_HAMMER]

Yaikz!

Plano ko pa naman sana kumuha nyan dahil mura na, dot/ece approved pa.

Iba pa rin ang Zeus 2100B.

[_jan]

One of the very reason why i hate helmet with SCREWS ........

[speedmeister]

What i know is that it is the responsibility of the authorised dealer to ensure the safety of the products the dealer sells. Pwede niyo pagtanong sa Department of Trade and Industry ang tamang proceso sa defective products lalu na brand new binili mula sa authorised dealer. Hinde naman binenta yang helmet na second-hand or on "as is, where is" basis kaya meron ang manufacturer at ang dealer pananagutan sa mga "hidden defects" ng produkto nila. Lalu na safety gear pa naman ang binebenta nila. Hinde ko nga alam bakit mina-market ang LS2 na made in Spain. Ang pagkakaalam ko made in China ang mga yan. Eh medyo di sigurado ang consistency ng manufacturing standards ng China lalu na kung di dumaan ang helmets na binebenta rito sa safety tests ng ECE (kumpara sa helmets na talagang dine-distribute sa Europe).

[derfoj]

Thanks for the heads up Vmax.

I was planning to buy pa naman one of this.

Anyway, nagpadala rin ako ng e-mail sa LS2 website. Tignan ko lang reaksiyon nila.

Did you inform the shop from where you got your helmet of your experience? Dapat ata malaman nila para at least mapadating na rin nila mismo doon sa pinagkukuhaan nila personally yung naging problema or better yet mapalitan nila yang defective unit na yan. Wala bang ganung warranty ang LS2 helmet in cases na ganyan? Ano ba ang covered ng warranty ng helmet?

[Ungas]

Up lang natin old thread...

MX433V users,

Do you guys experience face reflection on your visors when it is shut closed? 2/3 of the visor down reflects my own face. I also experienced slight grading view on the lower part of the visor which makes me dizzy after wearing it for more than an hour.

[bongcap]

Thanks sir for the warning, not a good one to recommend. scary thing.

[drei27]

grabe...just think of it, mabilis ang takbo mo then all of a sudden biglang baba ng peak..covering your vision...deym! Buti na lang hindi madaling mataranta si ts....

To all of us better to review first if bibili tayo ng helmet..ride safe always

[xciting501]

Originally Posted by _jan

One of the very reason why i hate helmet with SCREWS ........