RA 4136 - Prohibition on Backriding ?

[boyaxski]

good day cycle brothers,

i'm a new member here and i need your help about backriding. recently, our company issued a safety circular which reminds us that backriding is prohibited, to quote :

Sec. 48 - Reckless Driving (from RA 4136)

No person shall operate a motor vehicle recklessly or without reasonable caution.

Motorcycle is classified, as a one-rider vehicle and therefore, the driver should exercise defensive driving at all times. Likewise, he is prohibited from allowing any person to ride on the rear end (back rider) of the motorcycle and he should wear crash helmet to ensure his own safety. thanks so much friends....


i sought clarification on the circular and the reply were as follows:

Under Article V (Miscellaneous Traffic Rules) of the Land Transportation and Traffic Code - 2000 ninth Edition Series 1, the following Sections are embedded :

Section 48 - Reckless Driving
Section 51 - Hitching to a vehicle
i have not seen yet the 2000 edition of the the Traffic Code, but from the internet, the exact wordings on Section 51 from RA 4136 as it was made an Act on June 20, 1964, are as follows

Section 51. Hitching to a vehicle. - No person shall hang on to, ride on, the outside or the rear end of any vehicle, and no person on a bicycle, roller skate or other similar device, shall hold fast to or hitch on to any moving vehicle, and no driver shall knowingly permit any person to hang on to or ride, the outside or rear end of his vehicle or allow any person on a bicycle, roller skate or other similar device to hold fast or hitch to his vehicle.

i'm still confused and i need your opinion on how the ruling should be interpreted.

[Frake_5000]

ang pagkakaintindi ko po sa section 51 eh bawal po yung mga pasahero/tao sumabit sa mga jeep or kahit anong sasakyan. Tapos yung mga naka bike,roller blades eh bawal din kumapitk sa likuran ng kahit anong umaandar na sasakyan. Pero, parang nalalabuan din ako pag dating sa back riding part.

[Wolver888]

Hmmm, maybe another twisted/misinterpreted meaning. These really needs some clarifications.

[khenshin42]

mga sir, ask ko yung chief namin dito sa LTO about that RA4136
ang sabi nya, para lang daw po yun sa mga pangpasahero na sasakyan tulad ng JEEP and TRICYCLE na bawal po ang sabit o ride-on.

and sa mga bicycle and naka rollerblades and skateboard naman po eh, bawal po silang maki ride sa mga sasakyan, ex. po yung humahawak po sila sa likod ng jeep o tricycle para di na sila pumadyak at mapabilis ang takbo nila. yun po yung bawal.

pero sabi po ni chief about daw po dun sa backrider ng MC... di daw po yun bawal... magiging bawal lang po daw yun kung walang kaukulang safety gears ang backrider. kailangan din daw po ng helmet and safety gears ng backrider. or else huli daw po.

yun po ang sabi ni chief luarca ha... sana makatulong.

[Jeff0208]

same understanding din po ako with KENSHIN. Bakit pa ginawang pang dalawahan ang upuan ng motot kung bawal back ride? though confusing talaga yung statement na yun ha....

Ken OT: galing ako Bicutan kagabi naghesitate lang ako magtxt sa iyo dahil gabi na he he he he. Next week meet tayo.

[khenshin42]

same understanding din po ako with KENSHIN. Bakit pa ginawang pang dalawahan ang upuan ng motot kung bawal back ride? though confusing talaga yung statement na yun ha....

Ken OT: galing ako Bicutan kagabi naghesitate lang ako magtxt sa iyo dahil gabi na he he he he. Next week meet tayo.

sure sir. kagabi nasa bicutan din ako eh, help ko yung kakilala ko na na hold-up dun.

sorry po sa threadstarter/mods

[Riverflow_2000]

good day cycle brothers,

i'm a new member here and i need your help about backriding. recently, our company issued a safety circular which reminds us that backriding is prohibited, to quote :

Sec. 48 - Reckless Driving (from RA 4136)

No person shall operate a motor vehicle recklessly or without reasonable caution.

Motorcycle is classified, as a one-rider vehicle and therefore, the driver should exercise defensive driving at all times. Likewise, he is prohibited from allowing any person to ride on the rear end (back rider) of the motorcycle and he should wear crash helmet to ensure his own safety. thanks so much friends....


i sought clarification on the circular and the reply were as follows:

Under Article V (Miscellaneous Traffic Rules) of the Land Transportation and Traffic Code - 2000 ninth Edition Series 1, the following Sections are embedded :

Section 48 - Reckless Driving
Section 51 - Hitching to a vehicle
i have not seen yet the 2000 edition of the the Traffic Code, but from the internet, the exact wordings on Section 51 from RA 4136 as it was made an Act on June 20, 1964, are as follows

Section 51. Hitching to a vehicle. - No person shall hang on to, ride on, the outside or the rear end of any vehicle, and no person on a bicycle, roller skate or other similar device, shall hold fast to or hitch on to any moving vehicle, and no driver shall knowingly permit any person to hang on to or ride, the outside or rear end of his vehicle or allow any person on a bicycle, roller skate or other similar device to hold fast or hitch to his vehicle.

i'm still confused and i need your opinion on how the ruling should be interpreted.

Wrong interpretation ng company nyo bro. Ano name company ba yan? paintindi mo muna mabuti sa kanila bro. Tsaka hindi naman "naka-hangon or nakasabit" ang backride eh kundi naka upo. Yung "outside" wala tayo magagawa dyan at wala namang loob ang bike eh. hihihi!

[Jeff0208]

Bro. Check mo rin ito:

E. Violations relative to weights and load limits.

37 Load extending beyond projected width without permit
38 a. Operating MV with wheel axle, or axle group loads in excess of the limits in Sec. 9, RA 4136 or any regulation without permit.
b. Operating MV with total weight of cargo carrying device on passenger truck including cargo exceeding 100 kilos.
c. Allowing more passengers and/or more freight or cargo in his vehicle more than the registered carrying capacity.
d. Baggage or freight carried on top of truck exceeds 20 kilos per sq. meter and not distributed in such a manner as not to endanger the passenger or stability of the truck.

eto ang pagkakaintindi ko....

E. Violations relative to weights and load limits.

37. halimbawa ang haba ng jeep ay 20 feet lang tapos may karga syang 30 feet. lagpas ng 10 feet tapos walang permit bawal yun.
38.
a. hindi ko maunawaan
b. hindi ko maunawaan
c. halimbawa sa XRM hanggang 120 kilos lang ang pwedeng sakay nito. More than this e bawal na. kung ako ay 70 kilos dapat ang angkas ko ay 50 kilos lang.
d. pangkotse at tricycle ito. kung ang bagahe ay nakalagay sa bubong ng sasakyan at ito ay hihigit sa 20kgs/square meter at hindi nakaayon ang pagkakasalansan ito ay bawal.

so I do not think na bawal ang BACKRIDE dahil wala naman sa batas RA4136 ito. Dapat lang na sundin natin yung weight limit/capacity ng sasakyan natin para hindi maging bawal ang backride.

sana po nakapagcontribute...

[ridersofthelost]

first of all i want you to welcome aboard sir ...

as for my reading comprehension of what the sir boyaxski's inquiry is, i'll just seconded the replies of sir khenshin applicable yan sa mga pub's na may mga sumasabit sa estribo, afaik di rin cover ng insurance nag mga pasahero na sumasabit. and for roller bladers, skate boarders and the likes, tungkol ito sa mga humahawak sa rear sides ng mga passing vehicle to propel them easily...

ride safely and defensively...

[smileyCOW]

Sa akin lang mga brothers may punto rin kasi yung ipagbawal ang sabit sa jeep, yan kasi ang modus operandi ng mga snatcher at holduper ng jeep.

Sa mga motor nmn marami na rin tayo nabalitaang na-agaw motor ng mga naka tandem sa isang motor. pero paano kay natin mapro-proteksyunana ung mga law abiding bikers na mag kaibigan lang o di kaya ung asawa o kapatid kaya.

[badsekktor]

Bro. Check mo rin ito:

E. Violations relative to weights and load limits.

37 Load extending beyond projected width without permit
38 a. Operating MV with wheel axle, or axle group loads in excess of the limits in Sec. 9, RA 4136 or any regulation without permit.
b. Operating MV with total weight of cargo carrying device on passenger truck including cargo exceeding 100 kilos.
c. Allowing more passengers and/or more freight or cargo in his vehicle more than the registered carrying capacity.
d. Baggage or freight carried on top of truck exceeds 20 kilos per sq. meter and not distributed in such a manner as not to endanger the passenger or stability of the truck.

eto ang pagkakaintindi ko....

E. Violations relative to weights and load limits.

37. halimbawa ang haba ng jeep ay 20 feet lang tapos may karga syang 30 feet. lagpas ng 10 feet tapos walang permit bawal yun.
38.
a. hindi ko maunawaan
b. hindi ko maunawaan
c. halimbawa sa XRM hanggang 120 kilos lang ang pwedeng sakay nito. More than this e bawal na. kung ako ay 70 kilos dapat ang angkas ko ay 50 kilos lang.
d. pangkotse at tricycle ito. kung ang bagahe ay nakalagay sa bubong ng sasakyan at ito ay hihigit sa 20kgs/square meter at hindi nakaayon ang pagkakasalansan ito ay bawal.

so I do not think na bawal ang BACKRIDE dahil wala naman sa batas RA4136 ito. Dapat lang na sundin natin yung weight limit/capacity ng sasakyan natin para hindi maging bawal ang backride.

sana po nakapagcontribute...

hehehe! bro pano kung yung rider pa lang eh mas mabigat na sa motor nya???

[tellybuhay]

Di pa yata ako nakakita na nahuli ng pulis dahil meron syang backride.

[commander007ph]

haay buti naliwanagan ng mismong taga lto thanks@kenshin

kala ko bawal na ang pillion e,sayang naman yung backseat naten pang chikas,ay,pang ankas...oops

[Wolver888]

Then this Company should be briefed about the safety circular they're implementing.

[boyaxski]

Thanks for all the help bros. Pasensya na po sa pangungulit but the circular, more than espousing safety, has a greater impact on us in terms of health insurance coverage. If we meet an accident, the employee backrider and/or the employee operator/driver who carries a backrider will not be covered. A great injustice and a law very wrongly applied. I’ve already contacted LTO’s Traffic Safety Division today pero nakapanlumo at sila mismo ay di sure sa batas at nirefer pa ko sa Adjudication Lawyer nila (parang di nila alam trabaho nila). Share ko lang sa inyo my query/reaction to that circular in our office.

Good afternoon.

Honestly, it is only now that I learned that backriding in motorcycles is prohibited. I went at LTO's website and tried to get a clrification (from the office Traffic Safety Division, Daisy P. Jacobo, East Avenue, Q.C. 921-9058) below but surprisingly the man who answered me referred me to their Adjudication lawyers (funny). If its not so much of a trouble, what is the specific article/section of Land Transportation and Traffic Code (RA 4136 as per the LTO guy I talked) that this prohibition is cited? We wish to dissiminate this info to our personnel during our safety meeting. For sure, they are also unaware of this.

From what I know, there has been no apprehensions on backriding. The schedule of penalties also made no explicit mention of such violation. The closest penalties are the two below :

Permitting a passenger to ride on the running board, step board, or mudguard of a vehicle.-54C
Hitching-permitting any person to hang onto or ride on the outside of a vehicle such as a person on a bicycle/skateboard/roller skates -58C (could this be it?)

Thanks and God bless

I was answered as follows :

Under Article V (Miscellaneous Traffic Rules) of the Land Transportation and Traffic Code - 2000 ninth Edition Series 1, the following Sections are embedded :

Section 48 - Reckless Driving
Section 51 - Hitching to a vehicle
Section 53 - Driving under the influence of liquor or narcotic drug

Has RA 4136 been amended such that it is now also known as Land Transportation and Traffic Code - 2000 ninth Edition Series 1? Before I bring this to our higher-ups, who ironically approved the memo, wish you could share me the real score here. If indeed this is true, LTO has pathetically failed to inform the public of this very, very important provision. Otherwise, somebody from us goofed big time.

Lastly on Section 51 - "disallowing riding on the rear end" - how rear is the position of the backrider. Certainly this is not the rearest (?) kc nasa bandang gitna lang.

Salamat po uli sa inyo brothers in wheels. Good evening po.

[clayfigur]

ang pagkakaintindi ko po sa section 51 eh bawal po yung mga pasahero/tao sumabit sa mga jeep or kahit anong sasakyan. Tapos yung mga naka bike,roller blades eh bawal din kumapitk sa likuran ng kahit anong umaandar na sasakyan. Pero, parang nalalabuan din ako pag dating sa back riding part.

Mga bro, in our case, iba ang nakita nila. We were almost home nung na ispatan kmi ng mobile ng mga lasing na pulis.... 2 backride ko, isinakay nila sa mobile nila tpos dinala sa precinto. sabi ng pulis bawal ang dalawang backride, ksi daw yung isa sa ilaw na halos nakaupo. malas tlaga, anyway inarego nlang namin. Nag abot kmi ng P250 para pang meryenda ng mga parak. kesa naman maabala pa, tsaka friday night nun, mahirap na. ingat lang po sa mga dalawa ang backride. mahirap na.

[ramonaks]

guys, bawal na ba talaga backride now? from this past posts, ang nasasabi is hindi naman... but just recently, actually last friday lang, we were flagged down sa checkpoint sa may south xpress corner quirino ave ang reason daw nila is bawal ang backrides...

so we were sent inside dun sa maliit nilang office( office ba un?) and we were shown a copy of the city ordinance ng manila na bawal na daw backriding... i wasn't able to check the city ordinance code, but it was dated nung august pa...

clarify ko lang po sana kung totoo na ito dahil kawawa naman po ang wife ko kung sinusundo ko sya sa makati pag ginabi na sya.

thanks po and more power!

[i_am_weasel]

guys, bawal na ba talaga backride now? from this past posts, ang nasasabi is hindi naman... but just recently, actually last friday lang, we were flagged down sa checkpoint sa may south xpress corner quirino ave ang reason daw nila is bawal ang backrides...

so we were sent inside dun sa maliit nilang office( office ba un?) and we were shown a copy of the city ordinance ng manila na bawal na daw backriding... i wasn't able to check the city ordinance code, but it was dated nung august pa...

clarify ko lang po sana kung totoo na ito dahil kawawa naman po ang wife ko kung sinusundo ko sya sa makati pag ginabi na sya.

thanks po and more power!

sir kung city ordinance lang nila yun...bawal lang sa loob ng jurisdiction ng manila, it should not mean na bawal na sa buong metro manila.

[ramonaks]

so bawal na nga? :( haaaaayyy buhay..

[dark_knight]

****** ina! sino gong gong ang nagpasa ng ganyang ordinace sa Manila? kaya nga bumili ng motor ang karamihan sa atin e para makatipid. panu na yung mga may asawa at anak pati nrin yung mga kapamilya natin na minsan e backride natin. magccommute na lang sila? lalo na sa gabi e ang daming mga masasamang loob sa lansangan tapos paglalakarin mo at magccommute?

Baka naman sir,wala naman ganitong ordinace dahil madalas din ako nasa maynila kasama ko GF ko pero hindi naman ako pinapara. Sana lang wag tayong magbigay ng false information kasi malaking epekto ito sa motorcyling community pero kung totoo nga ito mga ****** ina nila!

[dikong_qc]

pano kaya kung sa harap ng driver nakasakay ang angkas? hindi na ito backride? hihihi

[menchu]

guys, bawal na ba talaga backride now? from this past posts, ang nasasabi is hindi naman... but just recently, actually last friday lang, we were flagged down sa checkpoint sa may south xpress corner quirino ave ang reason daw nila is bawal ang backrides...

so we were sent inside dun sa maliit nilang office( office ba un?) and we were shown a copy of the city ordinance ng manila na bawal na daw backriding... i wasn't able to check the city ordinance code, but it was dated nung august pa...

clarify ko lang po sana kung totoo na ito dahil kawawa naman po ang wife ko kung sinusundo ko sya sa makati pag ginabi na sya.

thanks po and more power!

Sir AFAIK, wala pa pong pinapasang ordinance na ganyan dito sa manila. Hingi po kayo ng copy if ever sitahin kayo ulit. Baka PNP order lang po yan for inspection ang mga may backrides lalo na sa gabi. Check nyo yung drawer ng table baka nakauwang ng konti nanghihingi ng barya... hehehe..