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butchoy_0730
September 24th, 2007, 08:42 AM
location tanay sampaloc rizal
weather is good

going down to tanay rizal at around 9am. lots of curve, lots of speed
and lots of banking. and lots of cautions

never use pirated helmets like index
bakit kc ung friend ko nag crash ang bike nya causing hIS head to smash
floor luckily naka helmet naman kme at that time kaso pag tangal ng helmet
nya dumugo and upper right portion of his head. why??? kc ung screw ng
helmet which is naka attached and salamin ng helmet tumagos causing to hit his head when we looked at his helmet and nipis ng styro sa loob kaya tinamaan ang ulo nya ng screw kailangan tahiin yata ang sugat nya at tska bali ang balikat nya. wawa naman bestfriend namen pare get well soon bili na tayo ng safety gears rather than risking our life.

lesson learned helmet is not enough
special thanks sa mga mcp member n nagbyahe din that day.nag stop sila infront of my friend just give support and first aid

salamat din kay KUYA ROSS TY SA PAG ASSIST MO SA FRIEND NAMEN

_mano_
September 25th, 2007, 07:34 AM
Nako ha mahirap po yang pirated na helmet delikado po yang sa ating mga motorista...kaya po mgta sir tignan pong mabuti ang quality ng ating bibilhing helmet.

danrx
September 25th, 2007, 08:40 AM
Dami nagkalat na FAKE helmet!!! lahat na yata ng BRAND meron imitation!!!

Kahit yon binibilhan mong store mukha nila imitation na rin kc kapag tinanong mo kung fake ba yon product sasabihin original pa rin makabenta lang.....tsk....tsk....tsk......PEACE

commander007ph
September 25th, 2007, 09:02 AM
better buy helmets at authorized dealers only.

NSCB
September 25th, 2007, 10:28 AM
it's a pity that there are still a lot of people who ride MCs who think that all helmet is the same...much more for those who think that use helmets just for "iwas-huli" sake....

bacolodnon
September 25th, 2007, 11:51 AM
sir pasalamat na lng tayo kasi yun lng nangyari sa friend mo. imagine if walang helmet yun, khit fake lang, sigurado mas malala pa dun.

hope your friend will get well soon enough to ride again

ride sade po tayong lhat

sunnycuevas
September 25th, 2007, 12:20 PM
thanks for sharing...

this will serve as a warning for me...

BANANAMAN
September 25th, 2007, 03:48 PM
location tanay sampaloc rizal
weather is good

going down to tanay rizal at around 9am. lots of curve, lots of speed
and lots of banking. and lots of cautions

never use pirated helmets like index
bakit kc ung friend ko nag crash ang bike nya causing hIS head to smash
floor luckily naka helmet naman kme at that time kaso pag tangal ng helmet
nya dumugo and upper right portion of his head. why??? kc ung screw ng
helmet which is naka attached and salamin ng helmet tumagos causing to hit his head when we looked at his helmet and nipis ng styro sa loob kaya tinamaan ang ulo nya ng screw kailangan tahiin yata ang sugat nya at tska bali ang balikat nya. wawa naman bestfriend namen pare get well soon bili na tayo ng safety gears rather than risking our life.

lesson learned helmet is not enough
special thanks sa mga mcp member n nagbyahe din that day.nag stop sila infront of my friend just give support and first aid

salamat din kay KUYA ROSS TY SA PAG ASSIST MO SA FRIEND NAMEN

That's exactly what happened to my head when i had a spill., 2 years ago...
the brand is LEVIN... the screw for the visor scraped my scalp..
buy the original and ECE, DOT or SNELL approved helmets!!!

icedad_16
September 25th, 2007, 03:58 PM
kami yung tumigil nun sat na yun and always remember na mgadala ng medkit if ever.

Icon
September 25th, 2007, 04:18 PM
Ive read too many threads like this.

Nakaka-awa when you see a brother rider down, & adding insult to injury, suffered a lot more because the gears that he was wearing didnt do its job.

Folks, how much is your head worth to you?!?! Please invest on the "Proper" Protective gears... Nuff said!!!

TheExtremist
September 25th, 2007, 04:45 PM
location tanay sampaloc rizal
weather is good

going down to tanay rizal at around 9am. lots of curve, lots of speed
and lots of banking. and lots of cautions

never use pirated helmets like index
bakit kc ung friend ko nag crash ang bike nya causing hIS head to smash
floor luckily naka helmet naman kme at that time kaso pag tangal ng helmet
nya dumugo and upper right portion of his head. why??? kc ung screw ng
helmet which is naka attached and salamin ng helmet tumagos causing to hit his head when we looked at his helmet and nipis ng styro sa loob kaya tinamaan ang ulo nya ng screw kailangan tahiin yata ang sugat nya at tska bali ang balikat nya. wawa naman bestfriend namen pare get well soon bili na tayo ng safety gears rather than risking our life.

lesson learned helmet is not enough
special thanks sa mga mcp member n nagbyahe din that day.nag stop sila infront of my friend just give support and first aid

salamat din kay KUYA ROSS TY SA PAG ASSIST MO SA FRIEND NAMEN


sir hindi naman lahat ng index eh fake. ang orig na index costs 2200+

mixme
September 25th, 2007, 07:07 PM
does index have DOT or SNELL certification??? coz if they have, this things might not be happening to our fellow riders (screw issue)... atleast your friend have a helmet, imagine what happen if he is not wearing a helmet or fake helmets...atleast index lessen the injuries!!

ride safe brothers! invest on more quality helmets!

pacuson
September 25th, 2007, 07:25 PM
location tanay sampaloc rizal
weather is good

going down to tanay rizal at around 9am. lots of curve, lots of speed
and lots of banking. and lots of cautions

never use pirated helmets like index
bakit kc ung friend ko nag crash ang bike nya causing hIS head to smash
floor luckily naka helmet naman kme at that time kaso pag tangal ng helmet
nya dumugo and upper right portion of his head. why??? kc ung screw ng
helmet which is naka attached and salamin ng helmet tumagos causing to hit his head when we looked at his helmet and nipis ng styro sa loob kaya tinamaan ang ulo nya ng screw kailangan tahiin yata ang sugat nya at tska bali ang balikat nya. wawa naman bestfriend namen pare get well soon bili na tayo ng safety gears rather than risking our life.

lesson learned helmet is not enough
special thanks sa mga mcp member n nagbyahe din that day.nag stop sila infront of my friend just give support and first aid

salamat din kay KUYA ROSS TY SA PAG ASSIST MO SA FRIEND NAMEN


di po lahat ng index ay fake..... ang orig na index detachable ang visor khit walang screw matatanggal mo iyon..... na recall ko nga pala yung angkas ni mask rider black nuon gamit index.... shoei sakanya..... peace :banana:

pepe1275
September 25th, 2007, 10:36 PM
if ever getting an index get the 911. i've seen a friend who had a short term amnesia and lost his eyesight for more than 3 hours after a crash and he was wearing an index 411. i'm not so sure if index is dot, ece or snell approved but as far as i know they're certified by thai safety regulations. to be sure add an extra 1.5k to 2k to get your peace of mind when getting a helmet.

act2000
September 25th, 2007, 10:58 PM
As the cliche goes, you get what you buy.
Be very careful about ece, dot or snell certifications - - even that is being faked.
you know what we should suggest inside racing magazine to come up with an issue to list what are dot, ece, snell certified helmets and how much they cost compared to the fake ones.

Payon Hunter
September 25th, 2007, 11:02 PM
does index have DOT or SNELL certification??? coz if they have, this things might not be happening to our fellow riders (screw issue)... atleast your friend have a helmet, imagine what happen if he is not wearing a helmet or fake helmets...atleast index lessen the injuries!!
ride safe brothers! invest on more quality helmets!

i cant believe you said this!!! :eek: i will never wear a helmet na may chance na matusok ako ng screw or mabasag at mahiwa ang ulo ko

raf
September 25th, 2007, 11:17 PM
Wag sanang maliitin ang INDEX dahil kahit cheap-o lang ito, DOT certified naman ang helmet. Ang ingatan lang ay makabili ng fake INDEX helmet.

butchoy_0730
September 26th, 2007, 04:09 AM
i dont mean anything to index kaya nga cnabi ko na beware of PIRATED index. i didnt say that all index helmet is fake!! peace

butchoy_0730
September 26th, 2007, 04:18 AM
sir hindi naman lahat ng index eh fake. ang orig na index costs 2200+

i dont mean anything to index or other brand,kaya nga cnabi ko na beware of PIRATED index. i didnt say that all index helmet is fake!! or low quality.. just to know the capability of our helmet.

butchoy_0730
September 26th, 2007, 04:23 AM
kami yung tumigil nun sat na yun and always remember na mgadala ng medkit if ever.

pare thanks for your assitance we really appreciate it god bless you all! ingat din sa byahe and dont forget to bring first aid for other riderz.. ingatzzzzzzzz

butchoy_0730
September 26th, 2007, 04:31 AM
Ive read too many threads like this.

Nakaka-awa when you see a brother rider down, & adding insult to injury, suffered a lot more because the gears that he was wearing didnt do its job.

Folks, how much is your head worth to you?!?! Please invest on the "Proper" Protective gears... Nuff said!!!

yeah ayoko ko nga tumingin sa friend ko eh bestfriend namen un eh sana khit ung hiwa nlang sa ulo ung ken para mabawasan lang sakit ok lang wag lang ung damage ang balikat oucchhhh!! ung gasgas sa kamay nya dun sa isang frend namen hati hati na ok lang....

mga tropa kong fs payag b kau ako oo basta sugat lang ha!! kc takot ako sa semento eh!!

bacolodnon
September 26th, 2007, 10:52 AM
yeah ayoko ko nga tumingin sa friend ko eh bestfriend namen un eh sana khit ung hiwa nlang sa ulo ung ken para mabawasan lang sakit ok lang wag lang ung damage ang balikat oucchhhh!! ung gasgas sa kamay nya dun sa isang frend namen hati hati na ok lang....

mga tropa kong fs payag b kau ako oo basta sugat lang ha!! kc takot ako sa semento eh!!


sir except from that fake helmet, ano pa ba gears nyu? parang ang dami kasing injuries nung friend mo ah. saka i think youre in high speed driving during the accident?

ingat talaga sa pag motor mga bro...

ako rin, mag iinvest na rin sa mga safety gears...

TheExtremist
September 28th, 2007, 07:55 PM
i dont mean anything to index or other brand,kaya nga cnabi ko na beware of PIRATED index. i didnt say that all index helmet is fake!! or low quality.. just to know the capability of our helmet.

ah its ok sir. tama ka sir, ingat ingat nalang sa pagbili ng helmet. dapat may sticker syang DOT approved para makasigurado tayong orig nabili natin..

eurotrigger
September 28th, 2007, 09:10 PM
Eh Yung Spyder Safe Po Ba Kaya Yun?

jcyap888
October 1st, 2007, 06:23 PM
meron fake na index na helmet made in china, mura ang presyo kasi, pero quality is very poor talaga, i try to pick one. try to press it sa side ng dalawang palad makikita nyo na malambot talaga! parang plastic ng gallon ng langis na three times lang ang kapal. marami yan sa divisoria sa mga nagtitinda ng china product! beware!

gb_eikon
October 2nd, 2007, 05:20 AM
doble ingat lang and a lot of discipline when riding a bike,what ever kind of bike your using basta 2 wheels delikado talaga..I think the goverment should regulate the quality of the helmets for sale in our country para lang masulit yung pinangbili natin.Olats talaga systema eh.

forbiddensmoke
October 2nd, 2007, 09:27 PM
ingat din sa mga LTO certified helmets :D (yung mga walang DOT/SNELL/ECE certification). Siguraduhin ding authentic yung certifications. at higit sa lahat... ingat ingat sa pagmomotor... ride your own pace.

khimmy
October 2nd, 2007, 10:26 PM
nku..sad to hear that sir butchoy..hoping for his fast recovery..

kimmpoy
October 5th, 2007, 01:37 AM
sir butchoy musta na yung rider nyo?/ okey na ba balikat nya???

ntheng
October 8th, 2007, 07:42 PM
sa quiapo tska pier daming pekeng helmet..........

shan
October 8th, 2007, 11:02 PM
ok langsir butchoy ako ung spearhead nila during that ride and when I saw 1 man daw I immediately stop our ride para malaman kung sino may dalang med kit at buti naman one of our rider has a med kit ung naka z200 na kulay pula. kaya mga sir if mag ride dapat meron isa sa inyo mechanic and nag fifirst aid para sa mga ganitong sakuna..

Jon Arambulo
October 9th, 2007, 12:13 PM
location tanay sampaloc rizal
weather is good

going down to tanay rizal at around 9am. lots of curve, lots of speed
and lots of banking. and lots of cautions

never use pirated helmets like index
bakit kc ung friend ko nag crash ang bike nya causing hIS head to smash
floor luckily naka helmet naman kme at that time kaso pag tangal ng helmet
nya dumugo and upper right portion of his head. why??? kc ung screw ng
helmet which is naka attached and salamin ng helmet tumagos causing to hit his head when we looked at his helmet and nipis ng styro sa loob kaya tinamaan ang ulo nya ng screw kailangan tahiin yata ang sugat nya at tska bali ang balikat nya. wawa naman bestfriend namen pare get well soon bili na tayo ng safety gears rather than risking our life.

lesson learned helmet is not enough
special thanks sa mga mcp member n nagbyahe din that day.nag stop sila infront of my friend just give support and first aid

salamat din kay KUYA ROSS TY SA PAG ASSIST MO SA FRIEND NAMEN


Glad to hear you guys are ok.. as for the helmet, get one that says DOT or SNELL certified.. whatever brand, it should have ample protection if certified...

ride safe.

Kaizen
October 9th, 2007, 01:14 PM
Sana hulihin ang mga nagbebenta nito.

IT DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF WEARING A HELMET.

EZRO
October 9th, 2007, 03:12 PM
sir except from that fake helmet, ano pa ba gears nyu? parang ang dami kasing injuries nung friend mo ah. saka i think youre in high speed driving during the accident?

ingat talaga sa pag motor mga bro...

ako rin, mag iinvest na rin sa mga safety gears...


hmmm bro dapat talaga :D lalo na mag long ride tayo :D heheheh

:banana:

bacolodnon
October 9th, 2007, 03:16 PM
hmmm bro dapat talaga :D lalo na mag long ride tayo :D heheheh

:banana:

oo nga bro. papalitan ko na helmet ko, hahanap na ako dot certified.:) saka pads na rin for added safety...porma pang tingnan:D:clap:

pom_poms
October 9th, 2007, 04:14 PM
fake helmet..
walang kwenta yan
mahulog lang sa ibabaw
ng motor mo basag na agad..

lCEMAN
October 9th, 2007, 05:46 PM
i have an index 411 helmet before.. and 2 times na itong iniligtas ulo ko... hmmm nakakatakot na palang bumili ng index ngayon may pirated na...

bacolodnon
October 9th, 2007, 05:51 PM
can anybody give advice on how to spot fake helmets?

BANANAMAN
October 9th, 2007, 06:02 PM
fake helmets usually uses a plastic lock on it's retention straps..
usually bought at sidewalks., bargain stores., bargain price
doesn't comes with user's manual.,

kindly add na lang po

EZRO
October 10th, 2007, 11:10 AM
oo nga bro. papalitan ko na helmet ko, hahanap na ako dot certified.:) saka pads na rin for added safety...porma pang tingnan:D:clap:


ako nga helmet ko di pang motor hehehe DOT pa hehe wala pa akong pads heh :D bili pa me ng bagong helmet heheh :D

NSCB
October 10th, 2007, 11:37 AM
can anybody give advice on how to spot fake helmets?

first let's define what's fake?
- this are helmets that are imitation of the real thing....

there are a lot of branded helmets out there whose shell & designs are copied from other high end helmets here's a few of them:

Zeus 803.....copied from Arai
Zeus 2000...copied from AXO
Carting........copied from HJC CL12 (nilagyan lang ng airvent sa ibabaw)
...even SOUMY is a copy from Arai

so are these helmets fake? of course not....so the question should be
How to spot a Non-certified/unsafe Helmet.

here's some pointers.
1. Very cheap price
2. Shell is not that sturdy
3. liners are made of thick foam, but lack EPS (Styro)
4. comes only in one size

iCe213
October 10th, 2007, 11:44 AM
first let's define what's fake?
- this are helmets that are imitation of the real thing....

there are a lot of branded helmets out there whose shell & designs are copied from other high end helmets here's a few of them:

Zeus 803.....copied from Arai
Zeus 2000...copied from AXO
Carting........copied from HJC CL12 (nilagyan lang ng airvent sa ibabaw)
...even SOUMY is a copy from Arai

so are these helmets fake? of course not....so the question should be
How to spot a Non-certified/unsafe Helmet.

here's some pointers.
1. Very cheap price
2. Shell is not that sturdy
3. liners are made of thick foam, but lack EPS (Styro)
4. comes only in one size

well said... :D :D up for this thread very informative, sana po makarecover na po yung frend nyo sir butch

Kaizen
October 10th, 2007, 11:48 AM
all helmets come in one size.

the padding determines if it is small or XL.

bacolodnon
October 10th, 2007, 11:50 AM
all helmets come in one size.

the padding determines if it is small or XL.


ganun ba? kasi na notice ko merong malaki tlga tingnan para sakin eh. cguro sa design na yun nung helmet...

sa visor din ba may clue din tyo if orig o peke?

NSCB
October 10th, 2007, 12:07 PM
@kaizen
sorry bro but i have to disagree wiyh you on this...no offense meant though
there may be some manufacturers who produce helmets using just one shell size but
Internationally known brands usually have two or three shell sizes...from there the thickness of the inner liner & the EPS differ to accomodate different sizes.

> the first shell size is fitted with XS & S sizes
> the second shell is for M-L sizes
> the third shell is for XL, XXL & XXXL

Kaizen
October 10th, 2007, 12:08 PM
Wala po akong alam na international na helmet. Pangarap lang na makapag suot ako nun.

No offense taken sir.

ooseven
October 10th, 2007, 12:09 PM
sir, iba-iba ang size ng helmets.. at iba-iba rin types.. u can compare it naman sa gross size.. meron din naman mgkapareho ng gross size pro ang loob d preho ang space.. dpende sa manufacturer sir.. meron ako na try..parehong large pro yung isa, d magkasya sakin.. meron man yung L ng isang brand kasya sakin pro yung XL ng iba hindi..

im still using my helmet of our first motorcycle more than 10years ago.. PENGUIN brand nya..worth php1700 noon.. iba materials nya sa loob at hindi maiinit suotin.. hanggang ngayon parang bago pa rin kng malalabhan.. at walang shrinkage sa foam at styro..

*** this helmet saved my father's life several times nung nalasing ang motor namin.. hehe! so i guess, i'l treasure this.. ne-repaint ko lang kasi dami na gasgas.. :p

Kaizen
October 10th, 2007, 12:18 PM
Yung akin nanakaw sa megamall, bi nlade. At least may magnanakaw na naka zeus! astig.

NSCB
October 10th, 2007, 12:29 PM
@007
bro, if that helmet had been with you for the past 10 years, and had been involved in accidents several times...there may be unseen damage on it's shell as well as the EPS liner...i suppose you'ld be better off with a new one....

manufacturers recommend that a helmet be replaced after 3-5 years of use, even though it might still look as good as new...

ooseven
October 10th, 2007, 12:55 PM
sir, checked it out.. the only damaged parts are the:

1.VISOR lens.. which has been removed including its mounting parts..
2.the FRONT and SIDES.. visible scrAtches but no cracks.. tested by percussion to rule out cracked or broken areas..
3.STRAP LOCK.. which has been replaced by a much bigger and better set..
4. LEATHER LINING.. minimal wear

the rest, in top condition pa naman.. pro thanks sir sa info at sa advise..
actually, matagal ko na rin akong gustong makabili ng bagong helmet but sad to say, yung mga quality helmets ay d maganda ang fit sa kin.. kng meron din namang kakasya pro sobrang mahal naman.. but soon, makakahanap rin ako given a good budget..

ty!