I was just half listening to the GMA evening news...

Heard about a shootout involving the police and two motorcycle riding suspects in makati.

The officer interviewed said, that they are going to stop riders for "verification" of identification (d/l?, registration?) and take snapshots of the rider/backrider/bike...this is to be used in making a gallery where complainants/victims of crimes can use to identify the suspects.

Wow.

But then I might have heard wrong.

Ah...here it is: http://www.gmanews.tv/story/60273/Motorcycle-riding-robber-killed-in-Makati-shootout

The Makati police had been enforcing "Oplan Photo Sita," a security plan wherein motorcycle riders are stopped on the street and are required to have pictures of their vehicles taken.

grabe nmn yan...tamang hinala....heheheh
papapictyur ako..naka smile...^___^

OMFG!!! Suspect ka na kaagad? Tama ba yun?

mga sir di naman sa kampi kampi ako sa lespu, but di ba mayroon silang profiling?, yun bang pag assess sa mga tao,? i dont know kung tama yun term ko na profiling. yun bang they study the moves and ways of crooks ba. baka naman yun ang ibig sabihin ng mga yun.? ayoko din nung ganun na sa tingin lang sa mga rider e suspect na agad.

pakiramdaman... sabe sa article, bumaba ang isa then pinaputukan ang mga lespu? armado? y?

Policemen said they tried to halt the four, but the suspects took an alternate route. The fatality was a passenger who alighted a motorcycle and opened fire at pursuing law enforcers, the television report said.
sa isang banda, dapat na din ikatuwa ung nangyare dahil kung ndi, baka me plano na talaga sila na gumawa ng krimen. at least, nai-salaba ung victim o victims to be devah? yan eh kung tama ang balita.

tama lang kung kawatan talaga.

pero, di ako magpapakuha ng picture unless suspect ako.

wala lang magawa ang mga yan. gusto lang i.test drive bagong digicam nila hehehehe. besides anong ginagawa ng LTO files. bakit kailangan pang "magsarili" sila sa pag.gawa ng imbestigasyon at profiling. para saan, para magkaroon sila ng mas.maraming fall guy in case na hindi nila magampanan ang tungkulin nila? :banana:

Wait lang.,

Question ko lang:
Akala ko ba tinanggalan na nang karapatan ang mga pulis na mag-flagdown sating mga motorists except na lang kung checkpoints or kung deputized sila nang LTO?

*Curious lang talaga ko...

And going back to the topic:
Kund hindi sila (PNP) lalagpas sa sinabi nila sa Media na mga ginawaga nilang pag-check sa mga motorista, well that's a good action from them*. (*)That's what i think, okay?!
Medyo tiis na lang sa abala.

And dun sa nangyaring aksidente:
Sa palagay ko, kung hindi dahil sa operasyon na yun, eh baka may nadisgrasya pang iba yung mga tao na yun. And come to think of it, kung talagang malinis ka at wala kang balak gawin na krimen sa kapwa mo tao, bakit ka magdadala nang baril at magsisimulang magpaputok diba?

*Eto ay opinion ko lang. Tabi-tabi lang po...

wala lang magawa ang mga yan. gusto lang i.test drive bagong digicam nila hehehehe. besides anong ginagawa ng LTO files. bakit kailangan pang "magsarili" sila sa pag.gawa ng imbestigasyon at profiling. para saan, para magkaroon sila ng mas.maraming fall guy in case na hindi nila magampanan ang tungkulin nila? :banana:

you mean to say sir na baka fallguy lang ung napatay? or... gagawin nilang fallguy mga kukuhanan nila ng pics? na pag me krimen sa Makati at ndi nila ma-solve eh pikit-matang pipili na lang sila ng suspect sa mga pictures na maiipon nila? uy grabe yan ha?

Ok, let's define the issue here.

The issue is not the shoot-out that resulted in the deaths of two "suspicious looking" riders.

The issue is you and your bike are to be photographed to be included in some album or gallery.

When somebody complains of being robbed/snatched/victimized, they just open the books and let the victim point out the suspect/s. I'm not being paranoid but what if a "mistake' is made and you or your bike is "identified"? We all know that our law enforcers have the habit of assuming a suspect as guilty before proving them innocent.

Ok, the Republic of Makati might have the right to impose martial law in their territory. That's their Commander in chief Binay's and his police chief's idea of securing the safety of their enclave.

What bothers me is that they concentrate on riders only. They should also stop all vehicles including cars/trucks/suv's etc. to take photographs of their drivers and units for profiling. Include all people living, working in or plain walking through makati to get their pictures and profiles to make their database more complete.

tama lang kung kawatan talaga.

pero, di ako magpapakuha ng picture unless suspect ako.

Lahat naman tayo "suspect".

be ready for "tingin sa camera....harap sa kanan....sa kaliwa...ok, sa fingerprinting...."

Kund hindi sila (PNP) lalagpas sa sinabi nila sa Media na mga ginawaga nilang pag-check sa mga motorista, well that's a good action from them*. (*)That's what i think, okay?!
Medyo tiis na lang sa abala.

And dun sa nangyaring aksidente:
Sa palagay ko, kung hindi dahil sa operasyon na yun, eh baka may nadisgrasya pang iba yung mga tao na yun. And come to think of it, kung talagang malinis ka at wala kang balak gawin na krimen sa kapwa mo tao, bakit ka magdadala nang baril at magsisimulang magpaputok diba?

*Eto ay opinion ko lang. Tabi-tabi lang po...

I don't mind checkpoints, too.

Positive results from checkpoints like suspects apprehended (eliminated?) happen all over the country. It's not an exclusive accomplishment of the Makati Police. Law abiding citizens are happy for it and thankful to our gallant policemen and law officers.

Really, I don't mind ahving my license and registration checked...but to stand up to a wall and have my pictures taken while my only crime is that I happen to pass by their checkpoint....that will be a bit of too much.

totally insane..
why only motorcycles..?
isama nila ang lahat ng klase ng sasakyan...
baka mamaya pati tao na hindi taga makati
meron narin photo gallery...e panu kung kamuka mo lang?
WTF..grabe un a...pag pasok mo palang ng makati
para ka ng kriminal agad...then ung mga cagers
hindi na ppicturan..maglakad lang tayu sa kanto ng
bahay natin meron ng mga nagkalat na holdaper
wala pang motor un...sana lagyan nalang nila ng
harang ang MAKATI..at meron passport...
nakakainis lang...ok lang check point e..
pero ung ganun...WTF...@__@

Fuso mo Nyros....

it's their town, they can do whatever the F*%# thay want. we are the law abiding motorcycle riding citizens that are being raped here. what can we do?

hay naku...bahala sila..gustu nila yan...
mga pulis kaya at militar na nakamotor dun
pinipicturan din nila?i think not...sana pati mga pulis
para mareklamo ung nangongotong...

@ fafa wasted...
nakakainis e..hehehe..buti nalang di ako napapadaan sa makati...^__^

Ok, let's define the issue here.

The issue is not the shoot-out that resulted in the deaths of two "suspicious looking" riders.

The issue is you and your bike are to be photographed to be included in some album or gallery.

When somebody complains of being robbed/snatched/victimized, they just open the books and let the victim point out the suspect/s. I'm not being paranoid but what if a "mistake' is made and you or your bike is "identified"? We all know that our law enforcers have the habit of assuming a suspect as guilty before proving them innocent.

Ok, the Republic of Makati might have the right to impose martial law in their territory. That's their Commander in chief Binay's and his police chief's idea of securing the safety of their enclave.

What bothers me is that they concentrate on riders only. They should also stop all vehicles including cars/trucks/suv's etc. to take photographs of their drivers and units for profiling. Include all people living, working in or plain walking through makati to get their pictures and profiles to make their database more complete.

HAHAHA. tunay na tunay. korekorekok

Proverbs:

Only In The Philippines!!!

some government official/police love the shotcut way in doing their job.

too many to enumerate, most of the time, skipping due process.

suspects are even paraded, ignoring their rights as innocent until proven guilty.

UU nga panu kung kamuka mu lang ??? nakow picture picture para tayong Krimenal tapos pagtatawanan tayo ng mga lespu sa mga pics natin

Alam mo, pwedeng gamitin yang litrato mo laban sayo, ilalagay daw ng PNP sa gallery nila para maidentify ng biktima yung suspect.

Eh pano kung galit lang sayo yung nagpanggap lang biktima at ituro ka?

O kaya kung kamukha mo lang yung tunay na suspect?

O kaya gusto lang bumawi ng biktima sa kahit kanino tipong "bahala na" at ikaw ang naituro?

Walang maisip ang mga otoridad para masugpo ang mga tunay na kriminal.

naubusan na yata ng sketch artist and mura lang kasi digital camera ngayon.

dala din akong DIGITAL CAM.. tapos post gawin kong AVATAR yung pix nila sa lahat ng FORUM na kasali ako pati sa YM ko... :D

Sir Binay,

Big Brother style na lang gawin mo para cover lahat ng klase ng crimes di lang bikes.
Live cams sa high risk areas at main routes are better that oplan kokodakan. Euro style na lang, laki namn budget mo eh. :)

Buti na lang di ako pumupunta dyan sa Republic of Makati...

saka dami yata pokiness dito...

i would only pose for the cam if they got enough evidence to pin me down.

everyone's a clear suspect for a crime, but this one is streamlining the list to a minority: the riders.

kumbaga nung 80s, kapag may tattoo ka, kriminal or adik ka. parang ganun na rin sa ating mga riders.

new style, old news.

i would only pose for the cam if they got enough evidence to pin me down.

everyone's a clear suspect for a crime, but this one is streamlining the list to a minority: the riders.

kumbaga nung 80s, kapag may tattoo ka, kriminal or adik ka. parang ganun na rin sa ating mga riders.

new style, old news.

What if they really "pin you down" literally, like what they did when they apprehended that pizza delivery guy a while back? The poor guy had to hold on to the lamp post while the MAPSA thugs were taking away his bike by force.

Or just simply shoot and "take care of complications" later...there's no shortage of loose firearms to plant as evidence to make it appear as a "shoot-out". No I'm not being paranoid...it has been done and still being done everywhere.

Like we (as individual riders) really have any other choice but to comply. The sad thing might be, Makati will be bragging about the "success" of their operations and the rest of the cities and municipalities will then copy it.

verification of license and registration - fine with me.

photos of me and my bike for photographic records - HELL NO!! this is like taking mugshots of every passing riders. and mugshots are also photographic records of arrested individuals for purposes of identification by victims and investigators.

grabe! by taking our photos, we are being subjected to procedures done to an arrested individual.

isumbong kay tulfo?

What if they really "pin you down" literally, like what they did when they apprehended that pizza delivery guy a while back? The poor guy had to hold on to the lamp post while the MAPSA thugs were taking away his bike by force.


BTW, what offense did the pizza guy made? :?

pwede aku mag pa picture with placard saying makati governance are "stupid"... and i'm one of so called suspect "daw" kaya nasa album ngayun...

panapanahon lang yan.. what goes up must come down.... and the who is dwon must rejoice:bananan:

nakita ku yun.. pinipilt ng officer yung pizza guy... to be apprehended... it was on news... matagal na...

BTW, what offense did the pizza guy made? :?

I don't really know but from the looks of it, parang gusto i-tow ng MAPSA yung delivery bike, aywa ipahatak ng pizza boy.

Yun pala purpose nung pag issue daw nila nung sticker ng makati.

grabe naman yan, napadaan ka lang kunan ka na agad ng litrato at ilagay sa gallery nila... paano kung may mag trip sayo at ituro ka kahit di naman ikaw... nakakatakot yun....

Natuloy na ba to? Wala pa kasi akong nakikitang action mula sa Yellow Fever Boys e. Same old, same old.