ganito kasi, i went to JT Triump Caloocan kanina.. this is my first time buying a helmet... i chose the CL-15 series @ 4500... pero.. ang naging problema ko... XXXL ang kinuha ko... kasi, yung XL-XXL, may nararamdaman ako pressure sa noo ko, just above the "sentido" (left and right side)..


according dun sa chinese guy which i think may ari na kausap ko at sa manuals.. dapat hindi sya umiikot sa ulo ko, i mean sideways, dapat, sakto lang.. pero yun nga ang problem ko, may pressure sa taas ng sentido..

so ang kinuha ko yung XXL CL-15 Session na color yellow... sa XXL, comfortable ako. kaso yung nga you can turn the helmet sideways pero di naman ganun.. basta medyo maluwag naman sya...


maliit naman ulo ko.. pero ang inisip ko nalang kung san ako comfortable, kasi baka pag sisihan ko..


what do you think guys?


and one more thing, etong model na toh, yung unang visor na nakalagay is nakaindicate na para lang sa snowmobile use.. so pinalitan nilang yung visor, MODEL: HJ-09


tama po ba yung pinalit? pang CL-15 po ba na model talaga toh? i mean, kasi sa nakita ko sa mga visor sa display ng CL-15 eh may UV protection at anti fog ba yun.. tama po ba?


sensya na po, bago lang ako sa MC at sa helmets. hehehe..


soon to be rider po ako.. sana may makatulong


salamat.. hehehe

sir dapat po snug fit po ang helmet pag isinuot nyo...medyo masikip po cya para hindi gumalaw...ung foam nmn po ng helmet eh mag tetake ng shape ng ulo mo or will adopt sa shape ng head nyo....kung d po kayo kumportable sa helmet pwede nmn pong palitan yan pakita nyo lng ung resibo...madaling kausap po mga tao s a jt triumph....hth

and another thing sa paggamit mo araw araw nun luluwag din sayo yung sinasabi mong masikip sayo

sir dapat po snug fit po ang helmet pag isinuot nyo...medyo masikip po cya para hindi gumalaw...ung foam nmn po ng helmet eh mag tetake ng shape ng ulo mo or will adopt sa shape ng head nyo....kung d po kayo kumportable sa helmet pwede nmn pong palitan yan pakita nyo lng ung resibo...madaling kausap po mga tao s a jt triumph....hth



sir, kausap ko yung instik dun na lalaki, sabi nya, di na raw pwede mag palit, kung anung design at size, yun na raw.. parang ayaw na nila palitan if ever..



at, masakit talaga eh.. hindi na yung foam ang tumatama, kundi yung plastic or styro ba yun na nasa ilalim ng foam... panu kaya yun?

san po ba mas ok bumili ng helmet maganda at comportable at affordable??

salamat po!!!

sir, kausap ko yung instik dun na lalaki, sabi nya, di na raw pwede mag palit, kung anung design at size, yun na raw.. parang ayaw na nila palitan if ever..



at, masakit talaga eh.. hindi na yung foam ang tumatama, kundi yung plastic or styro ba yun na nasa ilalim ng foam... panu kaya yun?

afaik, DTI has set regulations with regards to exchange of goods bought from stores and retail shops. I believe you can invoke that right as a consumer.

sir, kausap ko yung instik dun na lalaki, sabi nya, di na raw pwede mag palit, kung anung design at size, yun na raw.. parang ayaw na nila palitan if ever..



at, masakit talaga eh.. hindi na yung foam ang tumatama, kundi yung plastic or styro ba yun na nasa ilalim ng foam... panu kaya yun?check out mo rin mabuti at baka defect ng helmet yun......dapat foam/pad first saka yung styro part.....mukhang ok din naman yung naipalit na shield/visor.......basta sakto naman sya sa mounts...HJ-07 kasi sa mga later models like CL-14.......yang HJ-09 na yata ang sa mga newer ones like CL-15, AC-12 etc:)

dapat snug fit, sa katagalan ng paggamit mo lalapat din ng husto yung helmet sa ulo mo, ganun talaga pag bago.

Yes i agree. dapat very snugly fit ang helmet sa head. 1 size smaller. sooner or later the foam will soften, loosen and fit right to your head. It's for safety reasons din na dapat hindi maluwag (in case of head collision). Mas advisable ang double D ring na lock so it's really tight, and washable lining para laging labang Downy.

Ganun din pala talaga ang mga helmets na may pangalan, always limited ang designs and stock.

And that there usually a feeling pag hindi sanay mag helmet/ or pag first time mag suot nga helmet ang isang rider. Claustrophobia. We need to get rid of this.

In the long run, wearing a helmet regularly will increase your riding confidence thus improving your riding skill. Because you feel safe and protected. Just get used to it.

If you really have big head measurement, have earrings, long long hair, pull boths straps of the helmet outward and slip the lid through your head smoothly. If you watch MotoGP. they pull the straps too, this serves as the handle in wearing the helmet.

the right fit usually is when your cheeks are slightly pressed inwards, thats the fit of my cl14 medium i bought from them 4 years ago, at first may pressure din sa sentido ko, try to use it regularly muna so that it will loose a bit.

in the racing fit of a helmet naman like used in motogp, talagang piga yung cheeks.

confusing as you said in your 1st paragraph, you said u got 3xl, but on the 3rd paragraph , u got 2xl.

basta medyo masikip dapat sa cheeks ang fit. ride safe

sir, thanks,




mali lang po yung post ko... pero XXXL talaga yung kinuha ko...



mababalik ko pa kaya toh? marami ako naririnig na masusungit mga tao dun sa JT triumph.. which i proved din..

kasi una kong kausap yung matanda na may salamin, na may balbas.. pucha, parang walang interest bentahan ako...tapus, nilayasan pa ako! ngpapakuha ako ng size nilayasan ako.. tapus yung instik na mukhang may ari na nilapitan ko...



tingin nyo mapapalitan ko pa ito? meron ba may kakilala dun na pwede kausapin para matulungan ako?

BTW.......you'll never go wrong on buying an HJC!!!:):):)

check nyo din po sir baka nga po may defect (I doubt?), or baka hindi lang po kayo sanay sa fit ng HJC. nung bumili po kasi ako sa Triumph JT ng CL-14, kasya sakin ang size L to XXL, kaya XL na lang kinuha ko. (ang alam ko po kasi sa CL-14/HJC, isa lang po ang size ng helmet shell, yung foam and pads lang ang nagbabago ng kapal.

ey there, try motoworld,,mayron sa moa or greenhills..id recommend a zeus helmet, DOT na, and you wont spend that much..ride safe.

@rev


bro, i tried XXL CL-14, and 15, parehas may pressure sa sentido... kinakatakutan ko ngayon sa XXXL ko, baka katagalan eh lumuwag na talaga...


anu advise nyo mga sir, papalitan ko ng XXL and hayaan ko mag set yung foams?

you should return it asap coz the longer you have it means harder to return, and try to negotiate properly, although there are limitations in changing items.

im sure they will point out that you did fit before hand, and now your asking for an exchange. that wll be hard to defend. good luck.

magsama ka ng pulis or atty. hehehehe

sir you have the right to replace the item lalo na pag may discomfort kang na fifeel about the helmet(sa loob) ......cyempre po same model po yung dapat ipalit nyo or go with higher end helmet depende po sa usapan nyo yan...all you have to do is ask and state your opinion/reason of replacing the helmet in a manner way im sure po marireplace yan...the sooner the better sir....ok nmn po sa jt triumph ive been their costumer since 2000 wala nmn po akong naging problema sa kanila.....they even help me to fit safety gears, give suggestions and feedbacks according to their own/others experience about certain products......even in parts ng motor basta po merong resibo in replacing and returning the items......hth

ganyan talaga ang feeling pag first timer ka sa pag-suot ng helmet.. feeling masakit na parang meron naiipit sa temple ... pero sa katagalan masasanay ka rin dyan.. :) palitan mo na lang ... :D

eto naman inputs ko:

....if ever na meron kang nararamdaman na sa palagay mo eh hindi ka kumportable pag naisuot mo na...


....why settle for the same model? siguro naman di lang nag iisa ang HJC model di vah?.[unless paktay na paktay ka sa modelong ito]

..and granting na yun at yun na lang ang natitirang helmet na itinitinda nila....bat di mo subukang bumili sa ibang tindahan? sila lang ba ang nagiisang tindahan ng helmet sa caloocan?

..if anatomically eh parang di ka kumportable dun sa lid..yes..quick fix yung ginawa mo..but it didnt change the situation right?

[at para lang sumikip sa ulo mo eh...mag susuot ka ng 3 sets ng balaclava..para lang mag snug fit yan..unless na pwedeng palitan yung cheek pads..which i doubt[arai does it]....eh baka naman ma prito yung ulo mo sa init...]

as for the visor...i think..both visors have uv protection..lalo na kung visor ng snow mobile..common or standard naman yan eh...

as for the anti fog....tooth paste lang isang quick fix dyan...
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what you could had done is sana di mo muna binili yung lid...shop around muna...di ka naman ata nagmamadali..besides you dont want to deal with sellers who are masungit noh:evil:

as for the anti fog....tooth paste lang isang quick fix dyan...


sorry OT po

pano po yung toothpaste as anti fog, sorry first time heard it. tnx jetzone

anu advise nyo mga sir, papalitan ko ng XXL and hayaan ko mag set yung foams?

ibalik mo yung helmet..then maghanap ka ng ibang modelo...[unless dedong dedo ka sa design or kulay ng helmet nato:D]

try asking yourself...is it worth your money?

...and next time..if your in doubt of the gears your buying....eto tip ko sayo...shop around muna...dont rush..then once na me nagustuhan ka...get the model and make..look for any reviews sa web AND ask around dito sa forum...hindi ka naman magbabayad just to ask...lots of members can advice you about it...at least malalaman mo through feedback if its worth buying it:D

ok mga sir,, ill consider all your suggestion.. ill give feedback kung mapapalitan ko..


another thing pa nga pala.. sabi ng ibang nakabili ng HJC, may kasama na itong breath guard, pero ininsist ng seller dun na wala daw kasama....

as for the anti fog....tooth paste lang isang quick fix dyan...


sorry OT po

pano po yung toothpaste as anti fog, sorry first time heard it. tnx jetzone



i dont know how it works...but it does..i use the gell type[ pero quick fix lang,,not di eto mamayat mayain]...now eto ang hindi ko alam..IF HUMIDITY AFFECTS ITS EFFECTS...

dito sa uk....di humid at medyo mas mababa ang temperature...

noong bumili ako ng HJC CL14 at FG14 sa Triumph may kasama talaga breath guard.

nung bumili din ako ng CL-14 ko a year ago, wala ring kasamang breath guard. nakabili for bukod for P300.

about sa pagsosoli ng helmet nyo sir, tingin ko mahirap yan unless may defect talaga yung helmet, pero try nyo rin sir.

you have the right to retun it bro. if you're not satisfied kahit nasuot mo na yan, you should return it. because if not, sira na ang JT Triumph sa MCP kung ganyan. bibili pa naman ako ng CL15 para sa girlfriends ko next week.

just my opinion, i think di na talaga papayag isoli yung helmet kasi kumbaga,kung ikaw ba e bibili ng brandnew nahelmet gusto mo bang ibigay sayo e yung nasuot o nagamit na ng iba?of course not right?
pero try nyo pa din po sayang naman din kasi kung di mo din mapapakinabangan...

sir dapat po snug fit po ang helmet pag isinuot nyo...medyo masikip po cya para hindi gumalaw...ung foam nmn po ng helmet eh mag tetake ng shape ng ulo mo or will adopt sa shape ng head nyo.....hth

Parang break in din bro. Let the foam take the contours of your face.

Kakabili ko rin ng helmet and parang masikip.

So kahit di ako nagba bike i wear it pa rin for break in purposes. (-:

just my opinion, i think di na talaga papayag isoli yung helmet kasi kumbaga,kung ikaw ba e bibili ng brandnew nahelmet gusto mo bang ibigay sayo e yung nasuot o nagamit na ng iba?of course not right?
pero try nyo pa din po sayang naman din kasi kung di mo din mapapakinabangan...


bro, hindi ko pa ito talaga nagagamit.. lagi nga lang nasa box. simula nung binili ko kahapon... bukas ko pa kasi makukuha yung MC... so plan ko.. punta muna ako ng JT triump sa umaga, then makikipag pilitan ako dun sa kanila na papalitan ko yung helmet for safety reasons... pag di nila ako pinayagan, ill report them sa DTI...


baka alam nyo yung exact na kautusan ng DTI about consumers rights.. so kahit papano may masabi ako sa kanila. hhehehe


thanks

So kahit di ako nagba bike i wear it pa rin for break in purposes.

say...doing the laundry....cooking some chinese stir fry..or playing with the psp?..or taking ashower?:evil:

...hehehe..just pulling your leg

i don't think you can return it for a replacement unless it's has a defect (warranty), you did fit the helmet first & then paid for it which means you have based your purchase on a decision, you chose to buy it knowing it fits loose on your head.

now you have to face the consequences of your decision, you can always wear a thick balaclava to compensate for the loose fit.

try wearing a full face bonnet - tama ba ung term?

mas makapal sya, medyo mainit lang sa fez

Parang break in din bro. Let the foam take the contours of your face.

Kakabili ko rin ng helmet and parang masikip.

So kahit di ako nagba bike i wear it pa rin for break in purposes. (-:

tama sir!!
hehehe ayos ang pag break in nyo sir ah :O tsalap lng talaga ng feel ng bagong helmet lalo na pag hug na hug ang ulo mo at ang bango bango hmmmmm amoy melon!!!!!!!!

ganito kasi, i went to JT Triump Caloocan kanina.. this is my first time buying a helmet... i chose the CL-15 series @ 4500... pero.. ang naging problema ko... XXXL ang kinuha ko... kasi, yung XL-XXL, may nararamdaman ako pressure sa noo ko, just above the "sentido" (left and right side)..


according dun sa chinese guy which i think may ari na kausap ko at sa manuals.. dapat hindi sya umiikot sa ulo ko, i mean sideways, dapat, sakto lang.. pero yun nga ang problem ko, may pressure sa taas ng sentido..

so ang kinuha ko yung XXL CL-15 Session na color yellow... sa XXL, comfortable ako. kaso yung nga you can turn the helmet sideways pero di naman ganun.. basta medyo maluwag naman sya...


maliit naman ulo ko.. pero ang inisip ko nalang kung san ako comfortable, kasi baka pag sisihan ko..


what do you think guys?


and one more thing, etong model na toh, yung unang visor na nakalagay is nakaindicate na para lang sa snowmobile use.. so pinalitan nilang yung visor, MODEL: HJ-09


tama po ba yung pinalit? pang CL-15 po ba na model talaga toh? i mean, kasi sa nakita ko sa mga visor sa display ng CL-15 eh may UV protection at anti fog ba yun.. tama po ba?


sensya na po, bago lang ako sa MC at sa helmets. hehehe..


soon to be rider po ako.. sana may makatulong


salamat.. hehehe

:C bro, IMHO baka naninibago ka lang!

Pwede mo yan ihambing sa pagbili at pagbili ng sapatos pag pagmasikip syempre masakit, kung maluwang gumamit ng makapal na medyas (dunlop)...

Siguro naman maari mo pa yan dalhin uli sa tindahan para ma-check sabi mo hindi pa nagamit, at may palitan na nangyari eh (visor switching:D )

Try mo rin komusulta sa personal mong kilala na nagmomotor, matutulungan ka nya...

i don't think you can return it for a replacement unless it's has a defect (warranty), you did fit the helmet first & then paid for it which means you have based your purchase on a decision, you chose to buy it knowing it fits loose on your head.

now you have to face the consequences of your decision, you can always wear a thick balaclava to compensate for the loose fit.



nalungkot naman ako sa sinabi nyo sir. hehehe.. dumating kasi ako dun sa JT triump mag 5pm na.. and galing pa ako cavite.. ng rush din ako, kasi nga ill be buying the MC na bukas, so iniisip ko bago ko kunin MC dapat may Helmet na ako para walang huli...


this is my first time sa Motor, nanghihiram lang ako pero ikot lang dito sa subd namin..

and wala ako idea ng tamang pagbili ng helmet.. nasabihan lang ako maganda HJC helmet kasi maganda rin ang ventilation nito..


can i not invoke my right as a customer as per DTI consumer regulations? lahat naman siguro sa simula ngkakamali, pwede ko naman siguro i-reason out sa kanila yung safety ko as a rider, and as there customer..


kung meron lang sana may kakilala dun na kaya ako irefer at matulungan.. tatanawin ko toh na malaking utang na loob. ehhehehe...

I think it will really depend on the company's rules and regulations but you can always try to explain nicely naman.

Anyways, from research, I notice that most manufacturers have several models of the same type of helmet (e.g. full face helmets). The reason is because people has different head shapes (e.g. oval, round, wide, etc) so there's no such thing as a fit for all helmet.

So I guess, although price is the main factor when we buy things, a very important step in the purchase is that a rider should determine whether a specific helmet model fits them comfortably. Sometimes if we get something too big (to fit the forehead), other factors are compromised (like cheek area).

Good luck and hope everything turns out well for you!

:C bro, IMHO baka naninibago ka lang!

Pwede mo yan ihambing sa pagbili at pagbili ng sapatos pag pagmasikip syempre masakit, kung maluwang gumamit ng makapal na medyas (dunlop)...

Siguro naman maari mo pa yan dalhin uli sa tindahan para ma-check sabi mo hindi pa nagamit, at may palitan na nangyari eh (visor switching:D )

Try mo rin komusulta sa personal mong kilala na nagmomotor, matutulungan ka nya...

Yun oh!!! nagsalita na si master!!! dapat sa motoworld ka bumuli may free advice pa si master arwin!! Nyahahaha:) :D :clap:

guys update lang... hehehe...



napalitan ko yung helmet ng walang hasle! hehehe.. thanks God! XL ang pinalit ko.. kinausap ko ng maigi nung pagdatin ko palang.. and di naman kumontra.. sabi pa nga sana sa kanya na lang ako ngtanung at humingi ng advise.. well, he gave me some pointers the first time i went there.. pero i insisted nga na masakit sa temple... so sabi nya ako naraw mag decide..


other than that wala silang kinontra... pinalitan yung helmet. XL nga lang.. i tried first yung display nila na pangsukat, himala wala talagang sakit, means malambot na siguro yung foam..


then, nung dumating na yung bago ko helmet, nagtaka ako, bakit pinalitan parin yung visor na nilagay sa una kong helmet.. pinag palit parin.. hmmmmm... anyways.. meron talaga pressure above the temple.. pero like most of you guys said, sa una lang.. and the helmet will take form of my head..


eto na.. i got my Suzuki Raider 150 na kanina hapon... meet kami nung seller sa Makati shell cor ayala and edsa.... nung una kaya ko pa tolerate yung sakit minsan nga nawawala.. then pag dating ko ng buendia cor. Roxas AVE, nahihilo na ako sa sakit. hahahah.. para akong hihimatayin.. so ng hubad muna ako sa macapagal para pahinga saglit ulo ko. heheheh..


ayun, after deretso na cavite. grabe, sumakit parin at nahilo ako malapit sa zapote. ehhehe. pero tiniis ko nalang.. hehehhe



anybody here has the same experience? eheheh



btw, eto po pics ng motor ko:

acquired from sir "Rey" Pres. of I.T. Riders TPC

Suzuki Raider 150 2006

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b67/Agent_So/DSC00790.jpg


http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b67/Agent_So/091320071432.jpg


http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b67/Agent_So/091320071442.jpg


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sir good to hear na ok na problem mo.....nice bike...nice helmet!!!purchase ka na din ng breathe guard for 300 petot lng un

hehehehe...

...yari ka sa mga mods...super laki ng mga photos mo:D

...well ,,problem sorted then...

Sir yung paghilo is because of loss of blood circulation dahil masikip?

or bakasakali naninibago sa "closed environment" at hindi ka nakakahinga ng maayos? if you open the helmet visor nawawala ba ang pagkahilo?

My friend fainted and fell of the bike along Quezon Ave. when he stopped at an intersection. Sobrang init kasi. Parang na heat stroke siya. Based on your second picture, looks like you bought the bike day time tapos traffic. You might have to build up your cardio.

Nice bike and helmet sir. Congrats!!!!!!!!! Always wear your helmet... Maganda pa naman. flaunt it. :D ride safe!!!!!!!!!

Based on your picture and the description of where you experience pain, i think your head is in a shape of an egg. The top of your head is wide than the bottom. As ryan said there are different types of heads and most manufacturers suit specific types of heads. Personally I like Zeus helmets but I can only fit comfortably into HJC helmets. In my opinion HJC is suited for round heads. If you are already wearing an XXL and still experiencing bad headaches then HJC is not the brand for you. I suggest you stop wearing that helmet because i don't think that type of pain will go away no matter how much "break-in" you do.

You're problem is not the size, its the right brand for the shape of your head.

tama. round helmets are Arai, HJC, KBC, Suomy, OGK, FM Etc.

mga egg shaped are Shark, Xlite, Nolan, Shoei and the like. pero nakabili ka na. enjoy mo nalang helmet mo bro. ganda quality ng HJC!

nice... goodluck & ingats... sama mo sa list mo padded jackets.. mdyo malayo rin ang byahe mo :)

buti na lang napapalitan mo at buti di mo pa pala nagagamit yan.

sir good to hear na ok na problem mo.....nice bike...nice helmet!!!purchase ka na din ng breathe guard for 300 petot lng un

sir, nung nandun ako sa JT triump, wala daw available.. matanung ko lang.. yung breath guard ba, acts rin as mask/air filter? sensitive kasi ako sa usok/alikabok

thanks sir..

Sir yung paghilo is because of loss of blood circulation dahil masikip?

or bakasakali naninibago sa "closed environment" at hindi ka nakakahinga ng maayos? if you open the helmet visor nawawala ba ang pagkahilo?

My friend fainted and fell of the bike along Quezon Ave. when he stopped at an intersection. Sobrang init kasi. Parang na heat stroke siya. Based on your second picture, looks like you bought the bike day time tapos traffic. You might have to build up your cardio.


sir, yung pagkahilo is due to the pressure above my temple... ang ginagawa ko, inaangat ko helmet sa ulo ko para mawala panandali yung pressure..


kapag nakastop ako, i open the visor, para makahinga, at malamigan.. pero kapag umaandar.. ok naman ventilation...

thanks sir

Based on your picture and the description of where you experience pain, i think your head is in a shape of an egg. The top of your head is wide than the bottom. As ryan said there are different types of heads and most manufacturers suit specific types of heads. Personally I like Zeus helmets but I can only fit comfortably into HJC helmets. In my opinion HJC is suited for round heads. If you are already wearing an XXL and still experiencing bad headaches then HJC is not the brand for you. I suggest you stop wearing that helmet because i don't think that type of pain will go away no matter how much "break-in" you do.

You're problem is not the size, its the right brand for the shape of your head.

hehehe. natawan naman ako sa inyo sir, oo nga noh.. mukha nga baliktad na eggshape ulo ko.. kala ko kasi square face ako. grabe bawat brand pala may specific na shape ng mukha binabagayan...


pero sir, nung nasa JT ako. to try there XL, yung mga display dun, ok naman.. walang pressure.. siguro kasi ilang beses na nagamit yun.. sana, ganun din helmet ko.. mag take shape sa hugis ng mukha ko..


i cant stop using this, kasi, wala naman ako pera pampalit. ehhehe.. thanks sir...



nice... goodluck & ingats... sama mo sa list mo padded jackets.. mdyo malayo rin ang byahe mo

ito sunod ko pagiipunan. hehehe.. thanks sir...


buti na lang napapalitan mo at buti di mo pa pala nagagamit yan.

yeah, thank God, di ako nakipag away dun. hehehe. maayus naman kausap yung instik kahit papano. heehhe... salamat sir..

tama. round helmets are Arai, HJC, KBC, Suomy, OGK, FM Etc.

mga egg shaped are Shark, Xlite, Nolan, Shoei and the like. pero nakabili ka na. enjoy mo nalang helmet mo bro. ganda quality ng HJC!
hi, regarding sa helmets suitable for EGG shaped head, ano pinaka affordable (pero dot, etc quality)? ung zeus ba ok sa egg shaped? thanx :D

hi, regarding sa helmets suitable for EGG shaped head, ano pinaka affordable (pero dot, etc quality)? ung zeus ba ok sa egg shaped? thanx :D

For Zeus helmets na bagay sa egg or oval shaped heads, I would recommend the Z-2000 or Z-2000A helmets.

For round heads naman, I would say Z-1100 or Z-805 ang ok.

:)