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Battle_Freak24
March 21st, 2007, 12:55 PM
Guys I went to Quaipo yesterday and I saw a lot of Index Helmets there. The small size full face helmets are only P700.00. They are neat and have good designs also... honestly they look like original ones.

A Motorcycle shop here in our area told me that they sell the same helmets also, but they sell it for P1,100.00. And the saleslady told me that their helmets are originally made from thailand. (hindi muslim made like in quiapo)

How can I verify if an Index helmet is Thailand made or Muslim made?
May "distinguishing mark" ba or something? A sticker maybe?

Thanx for the help guys... deeply appreciated. :D

Ichthus Janz
March 21st, 2007, 01:12 PM
You check the comfort liners bro. Yung Index Quipo medyo hindi maganda ang foam, cloth material at yung polystyrene. Pansinin mo rin yung index logo, minsan hindi pantay. Check the chin strap kung flimsy. At higit sa lahat yung shell kung mukhang matibay.

Wait din tayo ng inputs ng ibang Index users.

tawtaw28
March 21st, 2007, 01:46 PM
yung index thailand me sticker siya from thailand eh... saka try mo din isuot yung helmet... tapos katukin mo salabas... parang iba kasi pag quiapo.. halatang peke..

mototechnix
March 21st, 2007, 01:57 PM
Simple lang yan mga bossing sticker lang pagbabasehan nyan kung mapapansin nyo halatang dinikit lang ang sticker ng peke di tulad ng sa thailand talangang nakasama sa topcoat BEWARE OF IMITATIONS!!!!

TANGA LANG ANG NAPEPEKE!!!

coolworld
March 21st, 2007, 02:21 PM
San ba tayo makakabili ng orig na Index?

Malamang naman na yung binebenta sa bangketa at sa loob ng Uniwide ay mga pekeng Index.

khimmy
March 21st, 2007, 02:27 PM
agree ako kay sir mototechnix i used index helmet and sa sticker plang nkasama tlga xa topcoat..halatang di basta bsta mauukit ng kuko..hehehe..pati ung strap nia may tatak index..hehe..IMHO..:D

Battle_Freak24
March 21st, 2007, 02:34 PM
Sa B.I.J. shop sa antipolo (kina sherwin_trix) may binebenta sila na Index 411 for P1,100 only. Sabi nung may-ari sa akin, orig daw yung index helmet nila from Thailand. Hindi raw katulad nung mga nasa quiapo/pier.

Later daan ako sa shop nila then I'll check it thoroughly first before buying it.

Thanks for the help guys!

dankurtbs
March 21st, 2007, 02:39 PM
Guys I went to Quaipo yesterday and I saw a lot of Index Helmets there. The small size full face helmets are only P700.00. They are neat and have good designs also... honestly they look like original ones.

A Motorcycle shop here in our area told me that they sell the same helmets also, but they sell it for P1,100.00. And the saleslady told me that their helmets are originally made from thailand. (hindi muslim made like in quiapo)

How can I verify if an Index helmet is Thailand made or Muslim made?
May "distinguishing mark" ba or something? A sticker maybe?

Thanx for the help guys... deeply appreciated. :D

???????? :?

Battle_Freak24
March 21st, 2007, 02:58 PM
Dankturbs hindi ko yata ma-gets ang meaning ng post mo...

black phantom
March 21st, 2007, 03:00 PM
yung original may thailand quality sticker sa gilid then katabi yata nun yung model nr niya. Sticker hindi nababaklas. yung pinakamurang model ng index dito angeles na nakita ko yung 411 is 1000 pesos.

likot
March 21st, 2007, 03:03 PM
sa 411 pisilin mo yung foam nya dapat di lulubog ang daliri mo matigas ang foam ng original.... di ko alam ang term basta yung kulay puti na parang styro.... may dalawa akong 411 yung isa original talaga yung nabili ko sa caloocan peke yata. mas malambot yung styro nya pero ganong ganon din ang pagkakayari.... sa sta.lucia mall, orig index nila pero may tinda rin sila fake pero sinasabi nila chaka pinapapisil ang styro. don daw nalalaman yun. meron din silang HJC at around 4K

Ichthus Janz
March 21st, 2007, 03:04 PM
Bro may mga fake na Index Helmets na covered ng top coat yung sticker, not to mention may made in Thailand stickers din. Yung materyales talaga ang basehan at kung gaanon kapulido yung finishing.

likot
March 21st, 2007, 03:17 PM
Bro may mga fake na Index Helmets na covered ng top coat yung sticker, not to mention may made in Thailand stickers din. Yung materyales talaga ang basehan at kung gaanon kapulido yung finishing.

Tama ka sir!!!

Battle_Freak24
March 21st, 2007, 03:59 PM
Sir may idea ka kung magkano yung mga orig na 411 index sa may ground floor ng sta.lucia mall?

errol_gustave
March 21st, 2007, 06:39 PM
better buy in Concorde.. yun talaga original!!!

reckless2
March 21st, 2007, 07:31 PM
sir pag orig na index may sticker may nakalagay na made from thailand at kapag hinipo mo di mo matutuklap yung sticker nya dahil mapapatungan sya ng parang clear coat or plastic coat. kapag peke naman kabaligtaran ng sinabi ko.

rev125
March 21st, 2007, 08:10 PM
hindi ba dapat bawal ang pagbebenta ng mga fake? pirated? at imitation?
kahit sa SM department store, Ace Hardware, at Cartruck Center napakadaming fake na Index at Shoei helmet. Ang masama talagang magaganda ang design, makaka - loko talaga...pino-promote at pino-promo pa nga para marami ang bumili...

kapag original Index helmet dapat may Manual at bag, mas mabigat din compare sa mga "freebie" na helmet, my warning label at sticker na made in thailand sa loob...

mototechnix
March 21st, 2007, 08:35 PM
mas maganda talaga sa SM sm manila kung pang may index kau yung orig cgurado ka pa.....

blueDINK
March 21st, 2007, 09:48 PM
kulay dilaw ang sticker sa logo ng index tsaka kulay blue ang foam sa loob yun ang fake


kulay white kasi ang sticker sa orig minsan reflectorized pa tapos kulay black ang foam sa loob may bag, manual at nakakahon ang orig

likot
March 22nd, 2007, 09:10 AM
Sir may idea ka kung magkano yung mga orig na 411 index sa may ground floor ng sta.lucia mall?

P1600 po ang bili ko sir..... pero nag sale sila 2months ago 1400 na lang ewan ko lang kung may sale pa..... If i were you, bibili na lang ako sa exceed ng fullface na ZEUS P2000 since forumer ka less 10%. P1800 na lang dot cert pa siya..... sabihin mo lang na forumer ka tsaka minsan tinatanong rin kung anong grupo mo....

juno
March 22nd, 2007, 09:36 AM
our muslim brothers are actually more of a trader rather than manufacturers. they dont make these so called fake index helmets but they source it from china where these helmets are being manufactured.

most of the helmets you see in in the pier, and quiapo areas mostly come from china.

try to visit sites www.alibaba.com or www.made-in-china.com and do a search of every product you can think of. most brands we have are made there, rebadged, and sold in different names. some people would simply capitalize on the fact that the buyers are not aware about this, and try to sell these products at higher prices. you know how most people think when the product is expensive, they think it's "orig".

Ichthus Janz
March 22nd, 2007, 10:36 AM
better buy in Concorde.. yun talaga original!!!

My appologies po sir Errol, pero may mga fake helmets din po sa Concorde. Or bake depende din sa branch yan.

Kahit yung mga Dept store di maiwasan magbenta ng fakes. Much better kung sa mga trusted motorcycle shops like Exceed ka na lang bumili.

our muslim brothers are actually more of a trader rather than manufacturers. they dont make these so called fake index helmets but they source it from china where these helmets are being manufactured.


Buti na lang na-correct mo ito sir Juno, medyo unfair kasi sa mga kapatid nating muslim. I'm sure everyone here agrees na walang bad intention yung nag-post.

Battle_Freak24
March 22nd, 2007, 01:03 PM
My Bad. Sorry for the wrong terminology in my first post. :o

Guys I bougth the Index helmet yesterday at B.I.J. shop (Antipolo.)
The helmet was good, the design and the foam padding inside of it was neatly done. I attached here a photo of the Index helmet so you guys can give me some feedbacks about it... any comment will be greatly appreciated. Thanks! :D

Pic 1 = There are two logos about it being thailand made.
Pic 2 = There is a "quality control sticker" of some sort beneath the foam padding. The foam padding is colored black.
Pic 3 = In front of the mouth area inside the helmet. The rubber/plastic padding there has an engraved logo saying "INDEX". At the back of the neck area inside the helmet also, there is also a very small word "INDEX". And the metal part of the strap has an engravement "SYK".

The helmet also came with its appropriate Index box. But no manual or bag was inside. It costs exactly P1100. :)

What do you think guys? Did I make a good buy? Thanks! :D

majongero
March 22nd, 2007, 01:25 PM
bro, the helmets in malls are almost always fake.

dito sa sm fairview, may helmets sa sports shops, car shops, at isang bike store. pero sobrang ibang-iba sa mga helmet na binebenta sa labas. halata na peke.

Hakz
March 22nd, 2007, 01:56 PM
mahirap talaga, fake ang ganda din... but not quite like the orig.

better buy on trusted stores para di madenggoy. :)

likot
March 22nd, 2007, 02:15 PM
Sir pisilin mo yung styro yung white, if lumulubog daliri mo, yung original kasi pag pinisil mo matigas siya....

Battle_Freak24
March 22nd, 2007, 02:29 PM
Pinisil ko na. Matigas yung white styro sa loob (Tapos medyo sticky siya). Para siyang hard plastic or something...

zantilmo
March 22nd, 2007, 02:35 PM
kapag original Index helmet dapat may Manual at bag, mas mabigat din compare sa mga "freebie" na helmet, my warning label at sticker na made in thailand sa loob...

Tama ka sir rev125! yung INDEX 811 ko may bag at manual for 2,400.. at pansin ko walang tunog yung orig kapag na hulog sa sahig parang fiber glass yung shell nya iyan ko lang.. di katulad ng peke na lumalagapag kapag nahulog sa sahig.. try nyo ihulog yung index nyo kahit from waist line lang talagang walang ingay i mean smooth ang tunog nya.. mag ingat lang sa mga plastic screws nya madaling mabali..:D

majongero
March 22nd, 2007, 02:37 PM
wala sa tigas ng styro yan bro. i got a fake index i bought from the mall. matigas ang loob.

bakit ko binili? decorasyon ko sa kwarto. pang lespu kasi na half face. cute lang. hehehe!

ldz_bungo
March 22nd, 2007, 02:39 PM
just buy from trusted stores dont risk your self sa konting matititpid mo ...............always ride safe

NyRoS
March 22nd, 2007, 03:35 PM
tama yan...sir idz bungo....

Ichthus Janz
March 22nd, 2007, 03:38 PM
Isa pang taga-Nova.... Nyahahahaha....

Yung Index na nabili bihira ko na gamitin. Pang skut na lang sya o kaya kapag may backride sa bahay.

Tama si Battle Freak dito:
In front of the mouth area inside the helmet. The rubber/plastic padding there has an engraved logo saying "INDEX". At the back of the neck area inside the helmet also, there is also a very small word "INDEX". And the metal part of the strap has an engravement "SYK".

Ganyan nga ang mga orig na Index. Ganyan din kasi ang 411 ko.

reden90210
March 22nd, 2007, 03:44 PM
You can determine the Original and fake helmet, A)first check the shell by knocking the outer shell if the sound like plastic its defintely fake the sound of polucarbon, fiberglass are diff from palstic B) Second check the chin strap, C) Third you can ask your fellow rider to check their helmet to find which is original or not compare one another helmet with the same brand or name at least before you buy a helmet you can determine who's fake and original.

Battle_Freak24
March 22nd, 2007, 03:47 PM
For me trusted store ang B.I.J. shop sa Antipolo...

Teka nakakahalata ako na wala sa inyong nag co comment kung genuine Index Thailand ba or Jafeks (Aside from Janz and Reden) yung Helmet na nabili ko based from the pictures I posted...

1.) PEKE BA YUNG HELMET?
2.) ORIG THAI MADE BA?
3.) OR HINDI ORIG PERO HINDI RIN PEKE? (yung tipong ok lang)

Honest opinion please...

lml_sete
March 22nd, 2007, 03:51 PM
My Bad. Sorry for the wrong terminology in my first post. :o

Guys I bougth the Index helmet yesterday at B.I.J. shop (Antipolo.)
The helmet was good, the design and the foam padding inside of it was neatly done. I attached here a photo of the Index helmet so you guys can give me some feedbacks about it... any comment will be greatly appreciated. Thanks! :D

Pic 1 = There are two logos about it being thailand made.
Pic 2 = There is a "quality control sticker" of some sort beneath the foam padding. The foam padding is colored black.
Pic 3 = In front of the mouth area inside the helmet. The rubber/plastic padding there has an engraved logo saying "INDEX". At the back of the neck area inside the helmet also, there is also a very small word "INDEX". And the metal part of the strap has an engravement "SYK".

The helmet also came with its appropriate Index box. But no manual or bag was inside. It costs exactly P1100. :)

What do you think guys? Did I made a good buy? Thanks! :D

If the helmet you posted is fake so those index helmets that im selling in my store also fakes as well... if not its original i guess only the price is quite diffirent :O

likot
March 22nd, 2007, 03:57 PM
asa tigas yan sir kasi yung isa kong nabiling index medyo malambot ang styro.... parehas sya ng model iba lang ng design.. wag nyo try ibagsak yan sa semento kasi mawawala na ang effectivity nyan during crash.....

Battle_Freak24
March 22nd, 2007, 04:06 PM
Tsaka magagasgasan... sayang naman yung kinis ng design niya.

zantilmo
March 22nd, 2007, 04:06 PM
For me trusted store ang B.I.J. shop sa Antipolo...

Teka nakakahalata ako na wala sa inyong nag co comment kung genuine Index Thailand ba or Jafeks (Aside from Janz and Reden) yung Helmet na nabili ko based from the pictures I posted...

1.) PEKE BA YUNG HELMET?
2.) ORIG THAI MADE BA?
3.) OR HINDI ORIG PERO HINDI RIN PEKE? (yung tipong ok lang)

Honest opinion please...

Thai made talaga ang orig na INDEX..

sa tingin ko mukhang orig naman po sya kaso lang ito nga pina ka cheap na model nga index helmet, i mean pinakamura po.. sa itsura ng metal lock ng strap kahawig talaga sa orig. pero bakit walang naka lagay sa luob na parang tikita or manufacturers info?

naka lagay po sa akin ay manufacturer: S.Y.K. AUTOPART IMPORT-EXPORT CO.,LTD. tapos may instruction to the purchaser,...

Battle_Freak24
March 22nd, 2007, 04:12 PM
Ang alam ko yung mga model 411 lahat walang "etiketa" sa loob, located yan sa tuktok ng ulo area kapag suot mo na yung helmet di ba. Yung other models (yung mas malalaki) yun talaga may mga etiketa. 411 ang gusto ko kasi siya yung pinaka-fit sa ulo ko kasi maliit lang ako.

Tol Ichtus Janz, may etiketa ren ba yung 411 mo sa loob? Located siya sa tuktok ng ulo mo kapag suot mo yung helmet, sa loob.

Ichthus Janz
March 22nd, 2007, 05:04 PM
Ang alam ko yung mga model 411 lahat walang "etiketa" sa loob, located yan sa tuktok ng ulo area kapag suot mo na yung helmet di ba. Yung other models (yung mas malalaki) yun talaga may mga etiketa. 411 ang gusto ko kasi siya yung pinaka-fit sa ulo ko kasi maliit lang ako.

Tol Ichtus Janz, may etiketa ren ba yung 411 mo sa loob? Located siya sa tuktok ng ulo mo kapag suot mo yung helmet, sa loob.

Yup, same thing Sir Battle Freak. Di ko lang mataan kung saan ko sa Caloocan nabili kasi nung binili ko yan di ko pa masyadong kilala ang MCP... Hehehehe...

overdose
March 23rd, 2007, 06:03 AM
sarap sigurong mag grinder ng isan orig at isang fake in half para makita ang diffrence. I've been longing to that.

anyway the only firm fact i can say here is the small index helmet, bilugan ang likod not flat, na sobrang nipis ng lining, yung sukat ng external shell parang pambata pero kasya sa matanda kase nga manipis ang loob, yun definitely china.
hope this helps

DESK_MULLEN
March 23rd, 2007, 06:44 AM
wala na halos difference ung fake at orig eh... tip ko lang bro kung konti lang difference ng price sa zeus or hjc ipon na lng ng konti mahirap na ulo pinaguusapan pag dating sa helmet kaya mas advise ko ung mga dot certified helmets. nkakita na kasi ko ng mga accidents na gamit ung mrc, index, lhk.
sabi nga ng tropa ko " buo helmet pero durog ung sa loob, o durog helmet pro buo ung sa loob" no offense sa mga index users ok ang index helmet kung mismong distributor ng index helmet ung bibilhan mo. or talagang galing thailand. minsan kasi we learn our lessons in a hard way, para malaman ang tama at mali.

peace mga kapatid.

daburbor
March 23rd, 2007, 07:06 AM
kay overdose nalang kau umorder. musta na sir?

ynnadmac
March 23rd, 2007, 08:04 AM
Sir pisilin mo yung styro yung white, if lumulubog daliri mo, yung original kasi pag pinisil mo matigas siya....

Mga bossing ang styro foam sa helmet is designed to absorb impact in case of a fall or accident if it did not or as in the case matigas yung styrofoam your head will get the full impact. So do not press hard on it you are lessening its energy absorbing property.

ynnadmac
March 23rd, 2007, 08:16 AM
Tama ka sir rev125! yung INDEX 811 ko may bag at manual for 2,400.. at pansin ko walang tunog yung orig kapag na hulog sa sahig parang fiber glass yung shell nya iyan ko lang.. di katulad ng peke na lumalagapag kapag nahulog sa sahig.. try nyo ihulog yung index nyo kahit from waist line lang talagang walang ingay i mean smooth ang tunog nya.. mag ingat lang sa mga plastic screws nya madaling mabali..:D

Do not drop your helmets, when you do you'll have to replace it at once.
you would not know the damage on it and it may not protect your head when real fall occur

grifter101
March 23rd, 2007, 09:00 AM
tingin ko orig naman ung nabili mo bro. dati kasi ko may index 803. kaso nagpalit lang ako nung mabenta ko ung motor ko kasi parang di ako satisfied sa quality, (no offense po sa mga naka index din). madali kasi lumuwag ung foam nya eh, eh sukat naman sakin ung helmet and ako lang ang gumagamit kaya parang nagtataka ko, or maybe di lang maganda ung napunta na helmet sakin. now im using hjc cl-15 and satisfied naman ako.

khimmy
March 23rd, 2007, 10:27 AM
Sir battlefreak,

kung ung nabili nio po is fake,fake din po ung skin...kc gnyan n gnyan po kc ung nabili ko po eh..the same color din po..kc the same color din po tau ng motor..hehehe..(kambal ba?):D...

Anyway, as for now satisfied din nman ako s performance ng index helmet ko..gumagamit din ako ng bonet pra fit n fit tlga skin..IMHO im sure and i believed na ORIG po ung nabili ko po..

Peace to all..

zantilmo
March 23rd, 2007, 10:49 AM
Do not drop your helmets, when you do you'll have to replace it at once.
you would not know the damage on it and it may not protect your head when real fall occur

u dont need to repalce it right away if its just a simple drop on the floor. over naman yan.. only if the helmet will experience a severe blow and if ever u havnt had a real fall for atleast 5 yrs u should also get a new helmet. and distroy the old one..:)

Battle_Freak24
March 23rd, 2007, 11:17 AM
Sir battlefreak,

kung ung nabili nio po is fake,fake din po ung skin...kc gnyan n gnyan po kc ung nabili ko po eh..the same color din po..kc the same color din po tau ng motor..hehehe..(kambal ba?):D...

Ahihihihi... ang ironic naman nun sir. Same color Index Helmet naten tapos same color ren ang MC. :eek: Parang nasa "Twilight Zone" tayo :D

NSCB
March 23rd, 2007, 11:31 AM
of course alam natin na mahirap ang panahon ngayon, and gusto natin makatipid as much as possible....but in this case kung makabili kayo ng fake...di rin kayo makakatipid...might as well buy from authorized dealers...