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View Full Version : Fake helmets?
merlin November 4th, 2006, 06:52 PM Hello. Newbie here. I was at a mall today and saw a couple of stalls that sell stuff like toys, little electronic gadgets and... helmets (?!?!) They were marked "INDEX" and cost ~PHP 900. A couple of them were priced lower, PHP700. Are these real INDEX helmets or cheap chinese imitation hardhats?
kicker2 November 4th, 2006, 07:00 PM no doubt they're knock-offs...
rev125 November 4th, 2006, 07:23 PM imitation lang po yun! madame nyan kahit sa SM department stores at Ace Hardware..kalimitan po ng imitation na Index at Shoei helmets hindi glossy yung color tapos pare-pareho nakalagay sa logo ma-pa Index o Shoei "The Best Quality Helmets"
sniper07 November 5th, 2006, 01:10 PM mga sir, paano po natin malalman kung fake o orig ang zeus or hjc helmet may palatandaan po ba??..cencia na po, blak ko kasi na bumili ngayong bonus..eh gusto ko lang makasiguro..
agentsky November 5th, 2006, 02:07 PM my marking sa my loob kung kailan ginawa yung helmet saka D ring lagi ang strap.
motorhub November 5th, 2006, 02:28 PM bro san banda sa loob ng helmet malalaman
motorhub November 5th, 2006, 02:31 PM bro san banda sa loob ng helmet malalaman?
NSCB November 6th, 2006, 11:49 AM the best way to be sure is to buy your helmet from authorized distributors....
as far as i know...DEKA in caloocan is the authorized dealer of INDEX helmets, while if you want a Zeus Helmet go to Action Hobbies or Motoworld....
dagdag ko na rin....watch out for those helmets being sold in the malls (SM, Handyman, ACE, etc)...these are definitely fakes....
kicker2 November 6th, 2006, 06:49 PM take it from NSCB... he has more helmets than anyone i know. sin' dami ng chicks mga helmets n'yan! :D
bajinno November 6th, 2006, 06:56 PM If the rider dies instantly in a 40 kph crash, its definitely a fake
driedmango November 6th, 2006, 07:43 PM If the rider dies instantly in a 40 kph crash, its definitely a fake
Naku pow... Bakit po nagkalat ang fake helmets ngayon? Diba dapat hinuhuli mg sellers ng mga yan? Buhay po kasi ang nakataya dyan eh...
lml_sete November 6th, 2006, 07:56 PM Parang pirated din yan bro na CD pinagkaibahan lang legal ang pag benta kasi nga imitations daw may mga tatak din yata sa helmet na dot approved hehehe.
Para makaiwas sa fake helmet dapat bumile sa refutable stores.
NSCB November 7th, 2006, 09:38 AM @kicker
bro intiga yan ah....helmet lang, di na kasama ang chicks....
...if anyone want's to continue to enjoy their passion riding MCs..they should consider getting a good helmet.
venerzky November 7th, 2006, 09:57 AM kaya kung bibili lang ng murang helmet,,magtipid pa ng konti para may zeus or hjc na..
kicker2 November 7th, 2006, 11:00 AM @ NSCB.... 'di ba me poultry & hatchery ka? :)
yep... helmets & other safety gears are indispensable components of motorcycling. yung practice na ganito dapat nasa sistema na ng bawat isa everytime we ride. mura man o mahal, basta makaka protekta sa atin, GO!
NSCB November 7th, 2006, 03:56 PM @kicker..ikaw talaga bro...galing mong magpalusot....he he he
anyway, just a thought for helmet buyers to consider...with the price tag of this Knock-off helmets being sold in the malls...you may be able to get a decent entry-level helmet from authorized local distibutors....just save a little more...it's worth the wait...
jbinueza November 7th, 2006, 04:04 PM i have seen a full face helmet in a local tiangge (Unitop is the name) here in Cebu and costs about P400 plus...and you know what, the padding (styro) fell off from the helmet while it was still on display. hehehehe :O
NSCB November 7th, 2006, 04:24 PM bro...mas mahal pa pala dyan...yung unitop dito in cdo only sell those helmet for less than P400....kaya nga nakaka-awa yung mga riders that are mis-informed about the importance of MC helmets...they're putting themselves in danger using these things...on the otherhand, i guess they're are still a little better off compared to those people who refuse to wear one...
tellybuhay November 7th, 2006, 05:11 PM Quality helmet is a good investment.
Invest on one!
kicker2 November 7th, 2006, 07:19 PM @ jb & NSCB
hehehe... kakatuwa talaga sa UNITOP. anything you can find eh affordable. from needles to hlicopters yata me binibenta dun! i bought a plastic helmet with liner long time ago for just P95! tapos yung skateboard helmet na usually P400 sa mga bikeshops eh P180 lang! my 4-year old daughter uses it kapag naka floorboard ride sa scoot :D
NSCB is right... many are still unaware that there is such a thing as prescription helmets. and this is ought to be taken in consideration by our authorities. if they were able lodge a campaign for seatbelt awareness, am sure they can do the same with helmet awareness campaign as well.
right... better to have helmet than nothing. kung sana naman kase generally affordable ang mga DOT cert na helmets, am sure people will have a better safety edge.
suntzu_911 November 8th, 2006, 03:14 PM wassupp guys!! meron bang legit na helmet dealer sa pampanga? kung me info kayo.. saan sya?
xx2000 November 8th, 2006, 03:24 PM yung tinipid nyo kasi sa helmet madadagdag din sa pampagamot ng head injuries nyo. Buy a good one, its worth the investment +full coverage insurance, just to be sure...RIDE SAFE
ray del carmen November 9th, 2006, 07:25 PM i bought mine sa Triumph caloocan HJC Format CL 12, sure n genuine dun 4,5k ang price
newbie November 9th, 2006, 09:01 PM ang hirap lang talaga humanap ng index ngaun na hindi peke, lalo na sa katulad ko na hindi masyadong marunong tumingin ng kung anong peke at hindi na helmet... oo nga pala sa SM Bacoor ( CAR-TRUCK ) may mga (fake) index sila duon na kasing mahal ng orig na index.... halata nga lang talagang fake kasi kamukha ng katabing "shoei", he he he
clemzonecycle November 9th, 2006, 11:04 PM newbie, nabanggit mo ang mga fake Index Helmet, totoo talagang marami at nagkalat ang mga shop na ganyan. Nabanggit mo na Bacoor, so I assume na taga Cavite or nearby the area. Clemzone Cycle Parts and Accessories Shop ay nasa Bacoor din sa Niog, across Jollibee, we are selling all Original Index Helmets only, we have more than 10 different models of Index, If you can drop by at the shop, I will show you how to identify the fake one to the original, besides we are selling it at the lowest price. So see you at the shop.
NSCB November 10th, 2006, 08:40 AM @b_ponkie
check the MCP's classifieds section.....meron ako nakita dun bro...
driedmango November 10th, 2006, 11:53 PM Mga sirs. Sana po matulungan nyo ako. What are the differences between a fake helmet and a genuine one particularly INDEX brand po.
I only have 1,800 pesos budget kasi eh.
Thanks.
jay_zer0 November 11th, 2006, 01:26 AM dami din mga fake na AGV Rossi Replica..worth 4k-5k..
for sure walang rossi replica na ganun ka mura..
stonepeach November 11th, 2006, 11:44 AM panu ba malalaman kung fake nga ang index helmet o hindi?
ray del carmen November 11th, 2006, 11:49 AM see un label sa loob saka iba talaga finish ng fake 2lad nun insulator saka d maganda ang paint, un mga 2nd hand n helmet try sa MCP classifieds
cancer54 November 12th, 2006, 08:34 AM As a rule, helmets sold in Malls are fake...like this Index helmet being sold in a Mall in Marcos highway Marikina/Cainta boundary...kumpleto sticker and label sa loob ng helmet and w/ a prize tag of 1400 pesos...fake...i have an original index to compare.
Some would say "better have a fake helmet than nothing at all" is like saying "di bale ng fake yung gamot basta't may gamot na maiinom":evil:
So it follows...the way you value the cost of your helmet is the way you value your head...900 pesos? yun din ang halaga ng ulo mo!...If you can afford to buy a brand new or second hand MC(drop-drop or cash)you should be able to afford to buy a resonable and affordable quality helmet.
Ride safe to all.
stevedge November 12th, 2006, 09:13 AM mag kano ba talaga price ng index na helm... kasi yung sinasabi ni ser cancer54 na place eh dun ata ako bumili... pano ba malalaman talaga...?
driedmango November 12th, 2006, 10:23 AM Aside from Deka sa caloocan, saan pa po nakakabili ng original na index? Sa Ortigas center po kasi ako nag wowork at laguna naman nauwi...
birdofprey November 15th, 2006, 10:21 PM Dried Mango:
How long have you been riding for? Don't ever buy a fake helmet. Don't even buy a plastic one at that:P you don't have to buy shoei, shark, arai, agv etc etc to get a good helmet(Actually some of their cheaper helmets may be pretty average)....you can get beut helmets for much less....
OGK seems to be a good model with more saftey certs than you can shake a stick at:P (Check out their ff4 model).....Also Roof which is a euro brand...pretty origanal looking lids good saftey etc.
I've heard Nitro helmets are pretty good...
Do your research...You only get one head as others may have pointed out
driedmango November 16th, 2006, 02:05 AM Thanks birdofprey. I don't have MC yet. planning to buy one this december.
B3RN13 November 16th, 2006, 07:49 AM @driedmango = rens? nakilala ko yun avatar mo na magandang beng beng... hihihi... sana makabili na din ako...
driedmango November 16th, 2006, 07:24 PM @driedmango = rens? nakilala ko yun avatar mo na magandang beng beng... hihihi... sana makabili na din ako...
:banana: hehehe. ako nga. :D Samahan kita pag bibili ka na ng ersop mo :D
kicker2 November 17th, 2006, 07:02 AM @ driedmango...
bro... ilang tulog na lang! Magic na!!
speaking of helmets... check out SPYDER HELMET, yung maker ng cool shades na ala oakley & rudy project. DOT cert na daw, very nice looking & P1,400 lang! i haven't seen one yet, sa magazine lang. i have a thread on this para malaman naten what's with this new helmet...
ceramic November 20th, 2006, 12:23 AM As a rule, helmets sold in Malls are fake...like this Index helmet being sold in a Mall in Marcos highway Marikina/Cainta boundary...kumpleto sticker and label sa loob ng helmet and w/ a prize tag of 1400 pesos...fake...i have an original index to compare.
Some would say "better have a fake helmet than nothing at all" is like saying "di bale ng fake yung gamot basta't may gamot na maiinom":evil:
So it follows...the way you value the cost of your helmet is the way you value your head...900 pesos? yun din ang halaga ng ulo mo!...If you can afford to buy a brand new or second hand MC(drop-drop or cash)you should be able to afford to buy a resonable and affordable quality helmet.
Ride safe to all.
Sir Nakita ko ung sinasabi mo at sabi ng Sales Assistant eh Index Thailand daw un. Fiberglass naman tapos maganda tingnan. Ung black mga P1200 tapos may P1000 din at may P1400.Ok na sana sa akin ung black eh fake ba talaga?Paano ba malalaman kung fake?
driedmango November 20th, 2006, 12:37 AM @ driedmango...
bro... ilang tulog na lang! Magic na!!
speaking of helmets... check out SPYDER HELMET, yung maker ng cool shades na ala oakley & rudy project. DOT cert na daw, very nice looking & P1,400 lang! i haven't seen one yet, sa magazine lang. i have a thread on this para malaman naten what's with this new helmet...
Hi Ceramic! Medyo delay pag bili ko ng Magic 110RR kasi, na extend ako sa office until Nov 30. Tapos after 30 days pa daw makukuha yung separation package ko. :((
Anyway, tomorrow po, bibili na ako ng helmet. Zeus 803 po bibilhin ko sa motoworld. Inuuna ko muna safety gears ngayon habang naghihintay. hehehe...
driedmango November 20th, 2006, 05:00 PM Yehey! May Zeus 803 na ako!!!
adolf_hitler November 20th, 2006, 06:20 PM Have a P700 peso head? Go get a P700 helmet.
rhayan November 20th, 2006, 06:56 PM mga bro tanong ku lang yung AM helmet po ba ng concord ehh original?? yung poh sa sm concord??
cancer54 November 22nd, 2006, 07:22 AM Sir Nakita ko ung sinasabi mo at sabi ng Sales Assistant eh Index
Thailand daw un. Fiberglass naman tapos maganda tingnan. Ung black mga P1200
tapos may P1000 din at may P1400.Ok na sana sa akin ung black eh fake
ba talaga?Paano ba malalaman kung fake?
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Ceramic, Yung may cloth label sa loob na naka tahi,made in Thailand, yun yung original kasi may pinakita sa akin yung label sa loob plastic lang at nakadikit...at mas pulido ang gawa ng made in Thailand...yung fake di makinis yung mga gilid...gamitin mong guide yung made in Thai:)
ceramic November 24th, 2006, 07:00 PM Hi Ceramic! Medyo delay pag bili ko ng Magic 110RR kasi, na extend ako sa office until Nov 30. Tapos after 30 days pa daw makukuha yung separation package ko. :((
Anyway, tomorrow po, bibili na ako ng helmet. Zeus 803 po bibilhin ko sa motoworld. Inuuna ko muna safety gears ngayon habang naghihintay. hehehe...
Ganon ba ok! Sya nga pala may magandang motor sa forsale section ng forum check mo rin ung motor ni sir darkbenz ganda panalo ka na don naka setup na low mileage pa marami pang kasamang accessories.
ceramic November 24th, 2006, 07:06 PM Sir Nakita ko ung sinasabi mo at sabi ng Sales Assistant eh Index
Thailand daw un. Fiberglass naman tapos maganda tingnan. Ung black mga P1200
tapos may P1000 din at may P1400.Ok na sana sa akin ung black eh fake
ba talaga?Paano ba malalaman kung fake?
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Ceramic, Yung may cloth label sa loob na naka tahi,made in Thailand, yun yung original kasi may pinakita sa akin yung label sa loob plastic lang at nakadikit...at mas pulido ang gawa ng made in Thailand...yung fake di makinis yung mga gilid...gamitin mong guide yung made in Thai:)
Ok thanks sir balikan ko nga para ma check!
Rene Ybardolaza November 24th, 2006, 07:09 PM As the saying goes, "If its too good to be true....." It doesn't only apply to helmets.
act2000 December 17th, 2006, 08:46 AM Get a real helmet.... go for AGV original
The only authorized dealer in caloocan is DEKA... the others carry really cheap imitations. Graphics might give you the looks but the quality of the helmet will save you from unforseen circumstances.. the ones that are sold along 10th ave are super fakes and they are not cheap either.
You are better off...getting an index if you are on a budget. But if you are willing to spend some then get the ORIGINAL AGV
act2000 December 17th, 2006, 08:48 AM Its easy to know what is original and not....just visit the agv website at www.agv.com and you will see..
The ones sold along 10th ave. in caloocan are not seen in the website of AGV
Mabin28 December 18th, 2006, 09:44 AM bro, actually some of those in the agv site is not yet released here in PI. and the only authorized dealer for agv is in pasay city, not caloocan.
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