last friday i was riding my bike along marcos hi-way..i was stopped by a police officer at the checkpoint near the shell station..aside from the OR CR they wer also asking for the Deed of Sale..BAKEEEET????

hanapan ba ng butas? insurance hindi hinanap? hehehe
sayo ba naka name yung OR/CR, kung sayo.
wala akong maisip na reason kung bat kailangan yun,
unless, bibilangin nya kung ilang days old na yung bike mo hehehe
pinalusot ka ba naman nung wala kang deed of sale?
antay natin iba magreply baka may masmalufet na reason.

kung hindi naka-pangalan sayo ang bike, kakailanganin talaga ipakita ang deed of sale imho. para me proof ka na sa iyo na nga talaga ang bike.

sample lang... kung na-check point ang isang nagnakaw ng bike. pinakita ang OR-CR na normally naman eh meron sa compartment. lusot na. kung hinanapan ng deed of sale dahil hindi naka-pangalan sa kanya? walang ipinakita, or meron man sa compartment, hindi naman naka-pangalan din sa kanya, huli! ganyan narecover ang skut namin na nanakaw last year.

ang tanong lang, paano kung hiram lang ang bike? sa akin noon, tinawagan ako nung nanghiram sa akin at pinakausap sa pulis na nakasita. hehehe:D

kung hindi naka-pangalan sayo ang bike, kakailanganin talaga ipakita ang deed of sale imho. para me proof ka na sa iyo na nga talaga ang bike.

sample lang... kung na-check point ang isang nagnakaw ng bike. pinakita ang OR-CR na normally naman eh meron sa compartment. lusot na. kung hinanapan ng deed of sale dahil hindi naka-pangalan sa kanya? walang ipinakita, or meron man sa compartment, hindi naman naka-pangalan din sa kanya, huli! ganyan narecover ang skut namin na nanakaw last year.

ang tanong lang, paano kung hiram lang ang bike? sa akin noon, tinawagan ako nung nanghiram sa akin at pinakausap sa pulis na nakasita. hehehe:D

very informative...thanks dude. :clap: :clap: :clap:

tama sir if you own a bike or at cr mo e nakapangalan sayo walang anuman rason para i hold ka pero kung second hand mo nabili dapat dala mo lagi kahit photo copy lang ng or at cr pati deed of sale.

Sa kotse kaya ganun din? Madalas yung mga ginagamit kong sasakyan hindi akin eh. Pero napaka bihira naman ma checkpoint ang cage.

Brader lacsi, yung nangyari sa friend natin sa AK diba nung na checkpoint walang dala na deed of sale na impound yung motor? Natubos lang nya kinabukasan nung pinakita na nya yung deed of sale, nagbayad pa sya ng impounding fee. Magdala ka na para sigurado, hirap lagi makipagtalo. :)

kahit photocopy lang bro ok na yun,alam ko pag 2nd bike,needed talaga yun..always bring with photocopied or and cr na rin..

Mas mainanam para walang hassle ay ipa-transfer na ang ownership sa nakabili or if hiram lang, dapat sigurong may dalang authorization na ipinahiram nga ang bike...

Mas mainanam para walang hassle ay ipa-transfer na ang ownership sa nakabili or if hiram lang, dapat sigurong may dalang authorization na ipinahiram nga ang bike...
Bro magkano aabutin pag pina-transfer ung ownership ng isang bike yung sakin kasi nabili ko paso na rehistro plus gusto ko ilagay sa pangalan ko? Ano mga requirements? Ano step by step procedures?

Maari ka ngang hanapan ng deed of sale kung hindi sa iyo nakapangalan yung bike. Kaya ako lagi ako may dala photocopy ng deed of sale, OR/CR at pati na rin yung TPL. Atleast sure ako na paghinanapan ako meron ako dala.


@ RNP Bro magkano aabutin pag pina-transfer ung ownership ng isang bike yung sakin kasi nabili ko paso na rehistro plus gusto ko ilagay sa pangalan ko? Ano mga requirements? Ano step by step procedures?

Kakaparehistro ko pa lang ng bike ko last Friday. Unfortunately hindi ko pa naipatransfer of ownership. Baket kamo? Php648 ang price ng Verification Letter ng PNP-TMG. Ganun sila kamahal magserbisyo. E ang dala ko lang pera Php1,200 lang. Rehistro pa lang Php480 na, Emission Testing Php300, TPL Php380 plus kakain ka pa. Asus... antayin mo na lang next registration mo bago ka magpachange ownership.

procedure nga pala ganito...

1. Punta ka sa PNP-TMG office (meron nun sa Pasig Kapitolyo o kaya sa Crame)
2. Request ka ng Verification Letter sa kanila.
3. Ang payment thru Landbank so pupunta ka ng any Landbank branch na malapit tapos yung reciept (kung meron at dapat meron) dadalhin mo pabalik ng PNP-TMG office para maclaim mo yung Letter.
4. Diretso ka na sa any Emission testing center na approved ng LTO.
5. Pagnatesting ka na sa emission mo, punta ka naman sa mga nagbebenta ng TPL (insurance).
6. Pagkakuha mo ng insurance, meron nagveverify ng insurance sa LTO (sa Makati ganun e)
7. Tapos pasa mo na papers mo sa first window. (dapat andun yung TPL, Emission Testing Result na pasado syempre, Photocopy ng Deed of Sale, Photocopy ng any ID nung nagbenta sa iyo ng MC at syempre Photocoy ng ID mo) Tatawagin ka na lang nila for Motor Vehicle Inspection.
8. Pagkakuha nila ng STENCIL ng VIN (vehicle ID number) mo babalik ang papel mo another window for verification. Maghihintay ka ng mga 2-3 hours grabe nagutom ako dito.
9. Tatawagin ang pangalan mo sa cashier para magbayad.
10. After payment makukuha mo na yung iyong registration sticker.
Tapos!

Maari ka ngang hanapan ng deed of sale kung hindi sa iyo nakapangalan yung bike. Kaya ako lagi ako may dala photocopy ng deed of sale, OR/CR at pati na rin yung TPL. Atleast sure ako na paghinanapan ako meron ako dala.


@ RNP

Kakaparehistro ko pa lang ng bike ko last Friday. Unfortunately hindi ko pa naipatransfer of ownership. Baket kamo? Php648 ang price ng Verification Letter ng PNP-TMG. Ganun sila kamahal magserbisyo. E ang dala ko lang pera Php1,200 lang. Rehistro pa lang Php480 na, Emission Testing Php300, TPL Php380 plus kakain ka pa. Asus... antayin mo na lang next registration mo bago ka magpachange ownership.

ako 2,500 inabot lahat change of ownership at pinarehistro na pati..pinalakad ko lang pero pag kelangan ako na mag appear sumasama ako sa nagpalakad..

Ayos!!! Maraming salamat mga kaibigan. At least alam nyo ang gagawin. Talagang ganyan mabagal talaga kumilos pag sa gobyerno... Mahal din pala nag talent fee ng mga fixers...

salamat sa mga nagreply..di ko lang talaga maintindihan yun logic kung bakit kailangan ng deed of sale..wala naman law prohibiting people to drive other peoples vehicle di ba?..papano kung nanghiram ka lang?..labo eh..:?

anyway..pinadaan din nga pala ko..:D

salamat sa mga nagreply..di ko lang talaga maintindihan yun logic kung bakit kailangan ng deed of sale..wala naman law prohibiting people to drive other peoples vehicle di ba?..papano kung nanghiram ka lang?..labo eh..

this is true. no such law that prohibits driving a borrowed vehicle.

salamat sa mga nagreply..di ko lang talaga maintindihan yun logic kung bakit kailangan ng deed of sale..wala naman law prohibiting people to drive other peoples vehicle di ba?..papano kung nanghiram ka lang?..labo eh..:?
i agree bro. kaya lang, very rampant ang nakawan ng motor ngayon. sa tingin ko, dalhin na lang natin ang mga kailangan para hassle free ang ride natin. as i have posted earlier, nakatulong ito para ma-recover ang jet namin last year.

been bothered lang sa mga replies... my opinion... wala naman batas na dapat nasa pangalan mo ang sasakyan na minamaneho mo.. SOP lang na dapat may photo copy ka ng OR/CR lagi.. pero pati "photo copy ng deed of sale"? mejo mahirap ata yan.. panu pag ninakaw sayo ang sasakyan.. nandyan ang signature ng seller.. mapapadali ata sa mag nanakaw ma-iforge ang signature ng seller.. eh di wala ka na habol kung saka-sakali makagawa ng documento yan... im not saying na hindi mo dapat i-lipat sa pangalan mo ang sasakyan... pero as the owner of the vehicle.. lets protect the integrity of our property..

kasi kahit pumara ka ng 10 kotse sa kalye... mas mataas ata ang bilang ng sasakyan na wala sa pangalan nila pero legal... wala yang dalang deed of sale pero im sure meron yan sa bahay nila..

Sa kotse kaya ganun din? Madalas yung mga ginagamit kong sasakyan hindi akin eh. Pero napaka bihira naman ma checkpoint ang cage.

Brader lacsi, yung nangyari sa friend natin sa AK diba nung na checkpoint walang dala na deed of sale na impound yung motor? Natubos lang nya kinabukasan nung pinakita na nya yung deed of sale, nagbayad pa sya ng impounding fee. Magdala ka na para sigurado, hirap lagi makipagtalo. :)

huh? baka naman hindi-registered ang bike kaya na-impound? pero kung REGISTERED & MAY DALA KANG PHOTO COPY NG OR/CR, MAY LISENSYA KA kahit wala pa yan sa pangalan mo... BASTA REGISTERED! eh ibang usapan na ata yan... wala atang na i-apprehend ka dahil dyan. the mere fact na i-hold ka after showing all your documents is abuse of the law... kung aku dun sa friend mo dinemanda ko yung nang-huli sa kanya..

procedure nga pala ganito...

1. Punta ka sa PNP-TMG office (meron nun sa Pasig Kapitolyo o kaya sa Crame)
2. Request ka ng Verification Letter sa kanila.
3. Ang payment thru Landbank so pupunta ka ng any Landbank branch na malapit tapos yung reciept (kung meron at dapat meron) dadalhin mo pabalik ng PNP-TMG office para maclaim mo yung Letter.
4. Diretso ka na sa any Emission testing center na approved ng LTO.
5. Pagnatesting ka na sa emission mo, punta ka naman sa mga nagbebenta ng TPL (insurance).
6. Pagkakuha mo ng insurance, meron nagveverify ng insurance sa LTO (sa Makati ganun e)
7. Tapos pasa mo na papers mo sa first window. (dapat andun yung TPL, Emission Testing Result na pasado syempre, Photocopy ng Deed of Sale, Photocopy ng any ID nung nagbenta sa iyo ng MC at syempre Photocoy ng ID mo) Tatawagin ka na lang nila for Motor Vehicle Inspection.
8. Pagkakuha nila ng STENCIL ng VIN (vehicle ID number) mo babalik ang papel mo another window for verification. Maghihintay ka ng mga 2-3 hours grabe nagutom ako dito.
9. Tatawagin ang pangalan mo sa cashier para magbayad.
10. After payment makukuha mo na yung iyong registration sticker.
Tapos!

Tama si Brother Jeff. But if I may add, dont forget to indicate in the deed of sale your residence certificate number. better have it photocopied also.

Then in case you dont have the photocopy of the vendor's ID, pagawa ka na rin ng affidavit na di mo na malocate yung owner.

Bring all the necessary documents before having it processed para iwas ka sa maraming hassles.

There are some evaluators na it seems , tuwang tuwa sila na pabalik-balikin ka nila. Tamad kasing tingnan lahat na dala mong documents. Paisa-isa. :mad:

I should know one. Just recently had it at LTO Diliman. Imagine I arrived there at 8:30 am, natapos me 2pm. Wheoh! :pissed:

Sarap ngang ihulog sa bunganga ng Mayon yung isang evaluator don. :evil:

pano kung OPEN deed of sale ang dala natin? just like what i have...
i suggest dala na lang tayo ng picture ng bike natin na may kasamang pulis.. hehe.. (pun intended)... but not a bad idea eh?

Ako din ng binili ko tong MC ko noong 2002 inayos ko kagad deed of sale at pinapalitan ko na ng pangalan sa OR at CR para wala ngang hasel sa mga checkpoint checkpoint. Kasi alam ko na gagawa at gawa ng mga dahilan ang mga autoridad para mahuli ka at makotongan ka.

Kaya ako pag-checkpoint, kahit lisensya lang hinahanap ino-offer ko ng ipakita OR at CR ko or vice versa.

Kaya I advise sa mga bumibili ng secondhand na MC papalitan nyo na kagad pangalan ng OR / CR. Kahit gumastos ng medyo malaki kesa naman ngayon ka peperwisyuhin.

yan mga bro case to case basis lahat yan sinabi nyo,paano kung buy n sell dba every time ba dapat transfer mo sa pangalan mo yun car o motorcycle,hindi dba bahala yun bibili,ang isa pa walang pa d.o ang lto na kailangan ang deed of sale dala mo,kasi paano nga yun mga buy n sell open deed of sale lahat yun sasakyan paano yun,hindi din nakapangalan sayo o pirma mo dun minsan kasi yan mga parak nag hahanap lang ng butas para sa kotong nila o nagtatangahan....

ewan ko ba bakit ang pulis ang tingin sa mamayan pilipino hudlum,npa masasamang loob,kung maghanap sila ng butas kala mo crminal ka,hayup ng mga parak yan,(hindi naman lahat)pero yun hindi kasamang bulok ay magiging bulok din me kasabihan tayo yun kamatis na hindi bulok isama mo sa isang kain na bulok ay dagling mabubulok din kaya,kayong mga parak na bulok mabuti pa sa inyo ^&*&**&%$#@@$ kayo! hindi kayo magsi^%%#@#!@*&^$# tay,hehehehehehehehehehehe

I agree with insomia. You have your signature at your deed of sale. So, ano gagawin natin? Here are some list we can do.

What we always need to bring:
1. Have your OR/CR (photocopy) always ready in your bike. Regardless if it was registered on your name or not.
2. At least a copy of LTO Fines and Charges to penalties. This would guide us to whatever charges we are aprehended. Atleast we could check whether our violation is written or acceptable.
3. Any Identification (ID). This would show that you are not giving them incorrect information regarding your identity. This would atleast help them not to be misleaded on your identity.

What to do if apprehended:
1. Show whatever documents they require. If you are required to show off your OR/CR then show them off. In case they look after your Deed of Sale (just incase you do not bring along one) tell them that you have it though you do not bring them along for your own good. If they insist....
2. Take the information of the officer who apprehended you. It is your right to ask for any information reagrding this officer who apprehended you. You can demand for that since you are protecting your interest. This would also help you just in case the officer is abusing his authority. Do not be afraid. Ask for his name, area designation, office, rank, officer in charge, and other information such as ID, liscense and badge. You have the right over your property. If your property is to be impounded take every information regarding these people for your reference.
3. Keep your temper low. Avoid arguments! This would only increase the tension between you and the officer. Keep your voice down as much as you could. You could never win over the argument whether you are the one who is right.
4. Submit to authority.Never give bribes! Submit to authority. If the violation is acceptable, admit it and pay the price.
5. Call somebody you know to help you out in the scenario that you cannot handle alone.Not all the times we can handle things out. Never hesitate to call for help to anybody we know we can rely on. It is much better if we know anybody who have knowledge regarding Legalities and Laws.
6. Never forget to ask God for guidance!!!

Just in case we have something in mind just add it up to the list and repost it. Thanks.

in our laws, 99% of the time who ever is in possesion of something it is automatic that he is the rightful owner of such equipment.the remaining 1% is for the authorities to have proof that said equipment is stolen or reported stolen.the proof of burden is on their shoulders.dapat may ebidensiya sila na hindi sa iyo ang gamit na yan.kasi you are innocent unless proven guilty.and you are not guilty if the law only states that you have to have xerox copies of the CR and OR of said vehicle.isipin nyo na lang, yung mga FAMILY DRIVERS! SA KANILA BA SASAKYAN? PERO SILA NAG DRIVE HINDI BA? DAPAT BA NAKA PANGALAN SA KANILA YUNG SASAKYAN? HWAG KAYO PAPA UTO SA MGA PULIS.SILA NGA MGA GUMAGAMIT NG NAKAW NA SASAKYAN E.

I got my Underbone from motortrade but it is named after my cousin coz i can't pass the CI (nag bo-board lang kasi ako). i am the one paying the bike for 2 years installment basis.
One evening i was stopped at TMG's checkpoint., the police officer asked why the bike is not named after me (pointing on my driver's license and the OR/CR). I just told him that it's from cousin. Maybe i'm just lucky that time..

well, it's really up to you guys kung pano i-handle ang ganyan. pero ako, i always have a copy of the deed of sale para ala ng hassle. legit man ang paghahanap ng deed o hindi. :)

Everyone has their opinion on the matter, but....

There is no need to bring your Deed of Sale (DOS). OR/CR is sufficient enough for the bike and your driver's license (w/code restriction #1). You only present additional documents (when asked) IF there is probable cause for (a) hot or stolen bikes/cars and (b) failed to return (missing). In short, there should be a valid complaint from the registered owner AND should be accompanied by an alarm sheet (written) that the vehicle in question is indeed "missing" and was reported properly to the authorities.

Although proof of ownership lies with the person "in possesion" of the vehicle, that does not mean that driving one NOT under his/her name makes the vehicle suspect. More important is whoever holds the ORIGINAL OR/CR is considered the "owner" regardless of the "registered name" that appears in the OR/CR.

By the way, we are talking here about supposedly men-in-uniform flagging down bikes looking for stolen vehicles. This does not apply when you have a traffic violation, collision w/ another vehicle, expired/lapsed registration, or the vehicle in question may have been identified in the commission of an on-going crime (or under investigation by follow-up operations) which the person in authority may hold you for a while pending verification of the vehicle plus your identity.

The key element here is to know your rights and basic proceedures in handling checkpoints. Aside from the above-mentioned things, men-in-uniform in checkpoints should have their names clearly displayed on their uniform (and they must be worn properly), checkpoint signage displayed and readable, in a sufficiently lighted area, to name a few. Always be vigilant w/ your rights but also give courtesy to them. DO NOT show any hostilities for this may prompt them to do the same. Just be calm and show what is asked. If they insist the DOS and you do not have it ask for the alarm sheet and formal complaint against the vehicle (if they portray that the vehicle in question is stolen or missing). They cannot just say that it is such if they don't have documents saying so. If they still insist but without having any more basis, tell them you wil require the presence of your lawyer before they impound the vehicle or apprehend you. Again, this is only for suspected stolen or missing vehicles. Usually when they sense that you know the proceedures they will let you off.

By the way, if you're buying 2nd hand always verify w/ the Police TMG if it's hot or not, moreso if you are not sure of the background of the vehicle. That will save you a lot of headaches.

I'm not a lawyer but I have many friends who are. Better to be informed than sorry. Ride safe guys!

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Everyone has their opinion on the matter, but....

There is no need to bring your Deed of Sale (DOS). OR/CR is sufficient enough for the bike and your driver's license (w/code restriction #1). You only present additional documents (when asked) IF there is probable cause for (a) hot or stolen bikes/cars and (b) failed to return (missing). In short, there should be a valid complaint from the registered owner AND should be accompanied by an alarm sheet (written) that the vehicle in question is indeed "missing" and was reported properly to the authorities.

Although proof of ownership lies with the person "in possesion" of the vehicle, that does not mean that driving one NOT under his/her name makes the vehicle suspect. More important is whoever holds the ORIGINAL OR/CR is considered the "owner" regardless of the "registered name" that appears in the OR/CR.

By the way, we are talking here about supposedly men-in-uniform flagging down bikes looking for stolen vehicles. This does not apply when you have a traffic violation, collision w/ another vehicle, expired/lapsed registration, or the vehicle in question may have been identified in the commission of an on-going crime (or under investigation by follow-up operations) which the person in authority may hold you for a while pending verification of the vehicle plus your identity.

The key element here is to know your rights and basic proceedures in handling checkpoints. Aside from the above-mentioned things, men-in-uniform in checkpoints should have their names clearly displayed on their uniform (and they must be worn properly), checkpoint signage displayed and readable, in a sufficiently lighted area, to name a few. Always be vigilant w/ your rights but also give courtesy to them. DO NOT show any hostilities for this may prompt them to do the same. Just be calm and show what is asked. If they insist the DOS and you do not have it ask for the alarm sheet and formal complaint against the vehicle (if they portray that the vehicle in question is stolen or missing). They cannot just say that it is such if they don't have documents saying so. If they still insist but without having any more basis, tell them you wil require the presence of your lawyer before they impound the vehicle or apprehend you. Again, this is only for suspected stolen or missing vehicles. Usually when they sense that you know the proceedures they will let you off.

By the way, if you're buying 2nd hand always verify w/ the Police TMG if it's hot or not, moreso if you are not sure of the background of the vehicle. That will save you a lot of headaches.

I'm not a lawyer but I have many friends who are. Better to be informed than sorry. Ride safe guys!

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galeng talaga ni kumpadre..atenista yan..hehe..man for other women..hehe

Brothers, This is my legal advice. DEED OF ABSOLUTE SALE is the mode of transfer of OWNERSHIP between the vendor and the vendee. The following reminders are VERY IMPORTANT:

1. Make sure that your Deed of Sale is duly notarized by Legitimate NOTARY PUBLIC. Always check the serial numbers, avoid typo error in this aspect.

2. Eventhough the Certificate of Registration is not yet transfered in the name of the new owner this is still alright BUT make sure you bring at least the original copy of the deed of sale coupled with your xerox copy of O.R./C.R. - Why original copy of Deed of Sale? There are Police even Traffice enforcers who mastered the Art of Philosophy (Pilosopo) will tell you that bakit xerox lang ito and sometimes even insists that the Deed of Sale is not Real. So to avoid being harassed by their stupid questions just bring an extra copy of the original Deed of Sale - this is for your protection also.

3. However, before the contract of sale is consumated both the vendor or vendee should agree who will shoulder the expenses of the "Transfer" - this will include Deed of Sale, TMG Clearance, LTO.
- I recommend this immediate transfer of name to strengthen the ownership of the buyer. PLS TAKE NOTE: that there are syndicate operating in our country who can tamper Serial Numbers similar or exactly the same as the original without noticing the difference and because of this, there are several MCs with only one SN for frame or engine number EXAMPLE: 2 MCs yung isa may papel at yung isa carnap peru the same serial number at tampered yung isa. What if one of the units in our example ay benenta sayo and you are not aware of this modus operandi? FOR YOUR PROTECTION in case this will happen to you - ito yung sinasabi ko ngayon na "ilipat agad sa pangalan nyo ang Certicate of Registration". Whatever claims nor issues that will arise wala na silang habol because you have already complied with all the requirements of TMG and LTO nasa pangalan mo na ang MC.

I ENCOURAGE all our brothers to have their Certificate of Registration be tranfered in their name. NAPAKA IMPORTANTE PO ITO. PAKI CHECK NYO PO LAGI ANG MGA SERIAL NUMBERS sa mga documents.

here's the requirements for transfer of ownership:

* ORIGINAL CR and latest OR, deed of sale/transfer
* TMG/PNP clearance
* SBR (special bank reciept) issued by LAND BANK
* macro-etching certificate
* insurance CTPL/endorsement of insurance to the new owner.
* board resolution/secretary's certificate if the vendor is corporation
* request for confirmation of OR/CR fro the issuing district office (CIR 123)
* actual inspection of MV/MC for stencil (chassis and motor number)

sana mga bro makatulong.

here's the requirements for transfer of ownership:

* ORIGINAL CR and latest OR, deed of sale/transfer
* TMG/PNP clearance
* SBR (special bank reciept) issued by LAND BANK
* macro-etching certificate
* insurance CTPL/endorsement of insurance to the new owner.
* board resolution/secretary's certificate if the vendor is corporation
* request for confirmation of OR/CR fro the issuing district office (CIR 123)
* actual inspection of MV/MC for stencil (chassis and motor number)

sana mga bro makatulong.

My question is if the vendor was a corporation, do you still need to present a photocopy of the ID of the secretary?

Thats what happened to me last week. Thou I have the board resolution/secretary's certificate, the evaluator was insisting that I should provide the ID of the secretary.

Tama ba si Mamang Evaluator?

My question is if the vendor was a corporation, do you still need to present a photocopy of the ID of the secretary?

Thats what happened to me last week. Thou I have the board resolution/secretary's certificate, the evaluator was insisting that I should provide the ID of the secretary.

Tama ba si Mamang Evaluator?
in additon to the deed of absolute sales, i also carry the photocopy of the past owner's ID/driver's license.:)

My question is if the vendor was a corporation, do you still need to present a photocopy of the ID of the secretary?

Thats what happened to me last week. Thou I have the board resolution/secretary's certificate, the evaluator was insisting that I should provide the ID of the secretary.

Tama ba si Mamang Evaluator?

sir secretary certificate lang po ang kailangang dalahin natin, hindi napo kasama yung ID nung secretary... maari pa po yung photocopy ID nung unang may-ari ng MV/MC with three specimen signature na rin po.

sir certificate lang po yung hinihingi, wala pong nakasaad sa requirments na photocopy pa nang ID ng secretary. pagalitan mo sir yung evaluator na yun, baka fixer lang yun na naka upo sa upuan ng evaluator.
sana sir makatulong.

sir secretary certificate lang po ang kailangang dalahin natin, hindi napo kasama yung ID nung secretary... maari pa po yung photocopy ID nung unang may-ari ng MV/MC with three specimen signature na rin po.

sir certificate lang po yung hinihingi, wala pong nakasaad sa requirments na photocopy pa nang ID ng secretary. pagalitan mo sir yung evaluator na yun, baka fixer lang yun na naka upo sa upuan ng evaluator.
sana sir makatulong.

Sana tama ka pare. Because the evaluator was really insisting on it. And I think hes not a fixer, he was sitting on window 3 and in fact hes in uniform and using the computer. As what my friend of mine told me, baka humihingi lang daw ng lagay. Which I didnt since i know that my papers are clean. ;)

Kaya siguro it took me 1.5 hours waiting just to pay at the cashier. Then another 2 hours just to get my CR.

Ayaw ko sir pagalitan kasi pag tumaas ang presyon ko e mahirap na... baka lalo lang akong pahirapan. :o

What I did was, I just congratulated myself for being patient that day:clap:

nasa pagpapaliwanag lang yan. wag maging arogante sa pagsagot. walang batas na kailangan dalin ang deed of sale AFIK.

my sample scenario script. :D

pulis: bakit hindi nakapangalan sayo?
ikaw: kabibili ko lang
pulis: asan ang deed of sale?
ikaw: nasa bahay kasama ng mga original OR/CR
pulis: dapat dinadala mo.
ikaw: wala pong batas na nagsasaad ng pagdadala ng deed of sale.
(kapag naging arogante si MP *mamang pulis*)
pulis: sige impound yan!
(pakababa ka pa rin)
ikaw: sir patingin po ng alarm sheet ng mga reported at description ng stolen bikes. hindi naman po stolen ito. ito mga valid ID ko pa xerox nyo (sabagy ngisi :D hehehe ) at least 2.
(dito na lalong mangigitgit sa inis si MP)
pag walang maipakita kausapin mo yung hepe. kasi yung iba mismong pulis (hindi ko po nilalahat) na akala mo kung sinong mayabang naging dalawa lang ang guhit (minsan isa pa nga lang e) sila pa mayabang. dahil si hepe alam talaga ang protocol at hindi basta basta. mga rookie kasi yung iba.

ngayon.... tama si wasted_23 kung ayaw nyo talaga maistorbo, magdala kayo.

pero kung ako tatanuning mas gusto ko magdala ng calling card ng attorney kaysa sa 8.5 X 11. na bond paper. pag sobrang istorbo ginawa, iistorbohin ko din sya.



ibat iba situasyon nangyayari sa checkpoint. so nasa atin na kung pano natin mmapapabilis ang abalang palaging sinasabing para naman talaga sa atin. :D (lagi na lang) hehe


I also wanted to add.. WAG MAGLALAGAY NG MGA PAPERS SA MC NYO KAHIT XEROX....

always stay alert. safe driving fellas!

galeng talaga ni kumpadre..atenista yan..hehe..man for other women..hehe


Awwww!!! Amen to that bro! :clap:

oops sorry for the OT....

Anyway, for me bringing the DOS is just like bringing "extra" identification papers proving your citizenship or nationality here in the Philippines (assuming you're already a Filipino, natural-born or otherwise). If an id was asked (for example, when you go to a gov't office) and you gave them your driver's license and/or SSS id (or a "national" id?), should they still ask for your birth certificate or passport? Maybe it helps bringing it around but it's not really necessary unless your business involves specifically presenting them. But for general "id" purposes, you don't have to. That's why it's important for you to ask the alarm sheet because that will say if you need to produce more documents than is required. Which brings me back to my earlier advice: make sure what you're riding is not stolen by verifying first before you buy. For me, it's better to actually carry around the TMG verification because that's a document that came from the Police themselves.

Just my opinion guys, although if you feel more secure bringing extra documents there is no law saying that you can't.

Ride on!

Check my post here.

http://www.motorcyclephilippines.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52100

ang tanong lang, paano kung hiram lang ang bike? sa akin noon, tinawagan ako nung nanghiram sa akin at pinakausap sa pulis na nakasita. hehehe:D
Ok lang yun, at least my solution pa rin yung humiram, tawagan yung pinaghiraman. Pero yung nagnakaw, walang solution kung hanapan sya ng deed of sale.:D

Tama Si Insomya As Long As Dala Mo Yung Xerox Copy Ng Or/cr Wala Ng Kaso Dun Maniwala Kayo Sakin. Kung Hinanapan Man Kayo Ng Copy Ne Deed Of Sale Baka Nakita Na Hindi Sa Inyo Pangalan Pero Ok Lang Kahit Hindi Nyo Dala Or Hiram Nyo Lang Ang Vehicle Nyo Mc/automoblie.

Payo Lang: Wag Na Wag Nyong Dadalin Yung Original Copy Ng Or/cr Kasi Pagnakarnap Yan Madali Na Nilang Irenew Bec. Of Original Documents.

Basta May Check Point Xerox Ng Or/cr Lang Aprrove Na Po. Walang Sabit. Baka Naman Kasi Nagugutom Ang Buwaya Hehehehehe.

Isa Pa Wag Nyong Ilalagay Sa Motor Yung Documents Kung Maari Ibulsa Nyo! Kasi Pagnakarnap Yang Motor As Long Sa Valid Pa Yung Registration Pwede Nilang Ipakita Sa Check Point Yon Without Hassle.

hello po sa lahat,
ask me lang kung ano po ba ang ga2win ko kung pangatlo owners na po ako dun sa nkuha kong MC? s 1st owner pa po na kapangalan yung OR CR? galing po yun sa hulugan tapos po eh... binenta nya sa mekaniko nun pahulugan na MC, tapos yung mekaniko eh, hindi na nya pinalipat sa pangalan nya dahil mahal daw po at nkita ko rin po dun sa binebenta nya ung MC nya kaya po binili ko eto. ano po ang gagawin ko? meron na po me deed of sale ng binilihan
ko at pati narin yung OR CR. kylangan pa po ba me pumunta ng sa CRAME para po mag pa clearance gayung expired na po yung rehistro ko? taga BACOOR CAVITE po me?

sana po matulungan nyo po me sa prob ko?
d ko alam kung sa me pu2nta at anong uunahin ko?

hello po sa lahat,
ask me lang kung ano po ba ang ga2win ko kung pangatlo owners na po ako dun sa nkuha kong MC? s 1st owner pa po na kapangalan yung OR CR? galing po yun sa hulugan tapos po eh... binenta nya sa mekaniko nun pahulugan na MC, tapos yung mekaniko eh, hindi na nya pinalipat sa pangalan nya dahil mahal daw po at nkita ko rin po dun sa binebenta nya ung MC nya kaya po binili ko eto. ano po ang gagawin ko? meron na po me deed of sale ng binilihan
ko at pati narin yung OR CR. kylangan pa po ba me pumunta ng sa CRAME para po mag pa clearance gayung expired na po yung rehistro ko? taga BACOOR CAVITE po me?

sana po matulungan nyo po me sa prob ko?
d ko alam kung sa me pu2nta at anong uunahin ko?

kung sa 1st owner pa rin nakaname ok lang basta hawak nung mekaniko na binilhan mo yung deed of sale nila! then pagawa ka ng deed of sale na yung mekaniko naman ang pipirma, parang pasahan lang yan! then saka mo ipanotaryo. kung wala ka pang pera pampatransper sa name mo better na iparehistro muna kesa naman mahuli kapa! nagawa na kasi namin yan kaya nerecommend ko lang sayo!
question pala: bayad naba sa financing yung motor? kasi kung hindi pa, nakahold sa kanila yung original na OR/CR

i cant help but say THIS IS A VERY HELPFUL THREAD. napapanahon kasi. kudos to those who shared their advise on our basic rights and to those who gave their suggestions and experiences on actual scenarios.:clap:

hello po sa lahat,
ask me lang kung ano po ba ang ga2win ko kung pangatlo owners na po ako dun sa nkuha kong MC? s 1st owner pa po na kapangalan yung OR CR? galing po yun sa hulugan tapos po eh... binenta nya sa mekaniko nun pahulugan na MC, tapos yung mekaniko eh, hindi na nya pinalipat sa pangalan nya dahil mahal daw po at nkita ko rin po dun sa binebenta nya ung MC nya kaya po binili ko eto. ano po ang gagawin ko? meron na po me deed of sale ng binilihan
ko at pati narin yung OR CR. kylangan pa po ba me pumunta ng sa CRAME para po mag pa clearance gayung expired na po yung rehistro ko? taga BACOOR CAVITE po me?

sana po matulungan nyo po me sa prob ko?
d ko alam kung sa me pu2nta at anong uunahin ko?

kailangan may deed of sale ka, katunayan na binili mo yon, pag pinatransfer mo sa name mo ang registration kailangan mo ng clearance, pag kuha ng clearance, kailangn nf deed of sale.

ot. kung ang aim ng pulis sa paghingi ng deed of sale ay para mapatunayan na talagang bili ang motor ok lang yon, kasi laganap ang nakawan ng motor ngayon, pabor sa atin yon, pero kung dilehensya lang,:? :? , ibang usapan na yon. better bring a copy, just in case. dati ganyan ako, dala ko ang deed of sale, kasi hindi pa nakapangalan sa akin yung mc eh. para iwas abala.

kung sa 1st owner pa rin nakaname ok lang basta hawak nung mekaniko na binilhan mo yung deed of sale nila! then pagawa ka ng deed of sale na yung mekaniko naman ang pipirma, parang pasahan lang yan! then saka mo ipanotaryo. kung wala ka pang pera pampatransper sa name mo better na iparehistro muna kesa naman mahuli kapa! nagawa na kasi namin yan kaya nerecommend ko lang sayo!
question pala: bayad naba sa financing yung motor? kasi kung hindi pa, nakahold sa kanila yung original na OR/CR

pare nasa akin na yung original na OR CR and yung release mortgage eh ndi pa naka release sa financing comp. eh... db po ba eh saklaw na ng 2nd owner yung release mortgage nun khit hindi nya pinangalan sa kanya yung OR CR? ano po ba ang dapat me gawin kc i have no idea where im going to start?

pls help me naman po!
safe ride and god bless!!!:)

sir lacsi- plain and NORMAL na kaso nayan ng HULIDAP.. oR the least eh Harrashment.. (Granting nasayo na nakapangalan-cr/or mc) Baligtad na kasi ngayon- MANGOTONG NA RULE At exemption nalang ang legitimate checkpoint.. Masakit tangapin pero yun ang totoong nangyayari.. Daming checkpoints- PERO padami pa lalo KRIMEN involving Mc.. NOYPI!

been bothered lang sa mga replies... my opinion... wala naman batas na dapat nasa pangalan mo ang sasakyan na minamaneho mo.

wala nga. pero kung sasabihin niyo na kayo ang may-ari, dapat talaga magdala kayo ng deed of sale kung hindi naka-register sa pangalan niyo yung motor vehicle. in fact, dapat nga kapag nabenta nyo na ang motor vehicle nyo siguraduhin niyo na ipalipat kaagad sa pangalan ng nakabili ang registration nito.

sa batas, ang tinuturing na legal na may-ari ng motor vehicle ay ang registered owner nito. dahil dito, kahit naibenta mo na ang motor vehicle mo at ito'y nasangkot sa isang aksidente, kung ito'y naka-register pa rin sa pangalan mo ikaw ang mananagot sa mga pinsalang nagawa nito.

kaya may katwiran ang mga pulis na hanapan kayo ng deed of sale kapag ang dala niyong motorsiklo ay sinasabi niyong sa inyo pero hindi nakapangalan sa iyo.

pare nasa akin na yung original na OR CR and yung release mortgage eh ndi pa naka release sa financing comp. eh... db po ba eh saklaw na ng 2nd owner yung release mortgage nun khit hindi nya pinangalan sa kanya yung OR CR? ano po ba ang dapat me gawin kc i have no idea where im going to start?

pls help me naman po!
safe ride and god bless!!!:)

pre heto requirements ayon sa LTO para ma-pa cancel ang annotation ng chattel mortgage sa motorsiklo mo--

Documents Required
1. Original Certificate of Registration (CR) and latest original Official Receipt (OR) of payment
2. Release of Chattel Mortgage Contract duly cancelled by the Registry of Deeds
3. Official Receipt (OR) of payment of release with the Registry of Deeds
4. Actual inspection of MV with duly accomplished MVIR [Download this form here]
5. Confirmation of CR/OR (CIR-91-137) if issued by other LTO Agency
6. Taxpayer's Identification Number (TIN)

pwede mo na isabay sa isang lakaran ang cancellation ng chattel mortgage saka transfer of ownership sa pngalan mo.

i always bring my or/cr copy & DOS. Wala naman problema sa'kin hanapin yung mga yun, wag lang sila maghanap ng hindi naman dapat hanapin. Katulad nung huling check point ko sa zapote. Binigay ko na yung copy ng or/ce & DOS, hinihingi pa yung resibo ng pinagbayaran ko. Sabi ko "sir, sa tao ko na po nabili to. Sa isip isip ko "kaya nga may deed of sale..." aheheheehe! peace! ride safe!