Madalas ko mabasa sa Attire and Stuff for Riders Forum yung "the price you pay for your helmet will also be the price you think your head is"...

Tama ba yun? Kasi parang ini-imply na kapag ang helmet mo ay Shoei na worth P20000, ganun din presyo ng ulo mo... Kapag Index lang kaya mong bilin na worth P2000, P2000 lang din presyo ng ulo mo.

I know I shouldnt take it literally. Its just that not everyone can afford branded helmets, not even Index. I, myself have an Index, HJC and a Generic modular helmet (which I use all the time). La lang po... parang discriminatory yung remark kasi.

yun ay akin lang po... la po sana violent reaction. salamat!!!

sabi mo nga sir it should not be taken literally... siguro ibig lang sabihin nun FIRST priority at wag tipirin yun pang head natin.

bro, the remark was a figure of speech.it means buy the best helmet your money can afford to protect your head.

minsan kasi, mc owners tend to spend a lot of money just to modify their ride and mind you, sa sobrang daming mga burloloy na ang mga nakakabit halos makakabili na sila ng magandang brand ng helmet.nawawala minsan yung concern natin bumili ng quality safety gears.

yun lang ang napapansin ko.

info...bro jetzone mag kano bili mo niyang aeon cobra mo

bro, the remark was a figure of speech.it means buy the best helmet your money can afford to protect your head.

minsan kasi, mc owners tend to spend a lot of money just to modify their ride and mind you, sa sobrang daming mga burloloy na ang mga nakakabit halos makakabili na sila ng magandang brand ng helmet.nawawala minsan yung concern natin bumili ng quality safety gears.

yun lang ang napapansin ko.

I agree on this, i remember last time sa place ko naka safety gears ako tinabihan ako ng isang ubone hindi ko pinansin cge lang ang buntot nya panay ang rev. Ng nilingon ko tinitingnan ako na para bang wanna try my MC? :O Binuksan ko ang shield ng helmet ko at ako pa ang sinabihan ganda ba ng MC ko thumbs up lang ako puno ng abubot etc ang ubone nya pero sarap sabihan galing mo bro puno ka ng abubot sa MC mo sarili mo wlang kang accesories:O naka sando no helmet shorts at tsinelas..:O

Hahaha nice one KIPS150! Yabang naman nun. Pero pag naaksidente iiyak iyak! SUS!

When I bought my bike I said to myself never to scrimp on protective gear. I value my life.

the best helmets can give you the best protection..... yan malamang ang ibig ipahatid nun bro. :)

All of youi are correct Mga Bro's
Figure of speach sometimes lead to mis understanding, don't take it literally...In my opinion it does'nt seems that if you buy the most expensive helmet will save your life...Always remember that protective gear only lessens the effect when you got accident...It does'nt mean that if you buy an expensive helmet you are well safe...Always remeber that even an expensive helmet don't have sneal approve and certified...All I can say is be wise to buy a helmet with DOT and SNEAL certified even if it a cheaper onebut those who can afford a 20,000 worth of gear it's up to you, it's your money...

Ride safe mga bro's

brothers n sisters,
This is a never-ending debate... It's true that even the most expensive helmet doesn't guarantee a 100%-no-injury-event (it even says so in the helmet's manual, even if it's Snell and DOT certified. It goes for ALL protective gear, not just helmets). Im fortunate enough to experience using above-average-priced helmets and gear and I can attest to the fact that you DO get what you pay for (in most cases anyway :D) BUT there certainly is NOTHING wrong with using a more affordable helmet (like Index, for example) and other protective gear. The point here is OUR SAFETY. It's better to have a helmet/protective gear on than nothin at all... And you know what's EVEN BETTER protection - RESPONSIBLE RIDING (it goes hand-in-hand with all the body armor and helmets). All the best helmets and body armor CANNOT protect you from YOURSELF if, er, you can't really "ride"... And the BEST PROTECTION? Yup, you guessed it - A PRAYER... :D

Figure of speech, no more no less. Guilt prevails if you have not added protective gears as your priority.:rolleyes:

Just like what I’ve said sirs and ma’ams, I know that the remark shouldn’t be taken literally. Kaya lang po kasi noong bago palang po kasi ako nagmomotor, I got offended when somebody told me that the price of my helmet is the price of my head. The remark came from a “mayabang” person and he told me that straight up (di po dito sa forums, “kaibigan” ko po nagsabi nun sakin)… as if he’s perfect or what. kaya minsan nakaka-mislead lang po.

At least now I’m enlightened. Ride safe everyone! :)

Madalas ko mabasa sa Attire and Stuff for Riders Forum yung "the price you pay for your helmet will also be the price you think your head is"...

Tama ba yun? Kasi parang ini-imply na kapag ang helmet mo ay Shoei na worth P20000, ganun din presyo ng ulo mo... Kapag Index lang kaya mong bilin na worth P2000, P2000 lang din presyo ng ulo mo.

I know I shouldnt take it literally. Its just that not everyone can afford branded helmets, not even Index. I, myself have an Index, HJC and a Generic modular helmet (which I use all the time). La lang po... parang discriminatory yung remark kasi.

yun ay akin lang po... la po sana violent reaction. salamat!!!

Kabayan,
this is the same remarks given to me when i ask advises on the thread which i have started HELMET TYPE TO CHOOSE??? sa Attire and staff newbie pa ako sa MCP forum when i post it. There is also a remark na huwag kong baratin ang protection ng ulo ko. I have not taken it literally for me any advise is still an advise whether good or bad since we are asking advises to enlighten us on the subject matter since this is the forum we can seek advises and information. For me it is an individual choice whether your safety gear is high end or the normal one as long as it is certified and to your satisfaction that it will protect you during accident. I agree that a reliable/certified safety gear is a MUST but also we have to consider the budget. RIDE SAFE BROD

Bro forbiddensmoke, I know why you started this thread, it was because of one of my posts and I commented by warning people about buying this new brand by checking its reliablity etc etc. I did not mean to cause a uproar or insult other bikers by saying that "the price of your helmet is the price of your head. It was a figure of speech. It is often mis-interpreted. What I was really trying to imply is, you should always try to prioritize your safety gear. Sometimes, we have the mentallity that, "Oh i already have a helmet, I already have a "jacket" (which is actually a jersey). What we have to realise is that riding or owning a bike is not about making our bike look, sound and feel good, drive faster...which is most of the time what we bikers prioritize...trust me, driving your bike with proper gears would make your drive a hell lot more fun. Lets be motivated in buying certified gears, I am sure it will motivate us to be better and of course safer bikers! =)

I've read an article about Snell and DOT only Helmets posted by our brother in one of the forums before and I know most of us have already read that article as well.

Its about the fundamental debate raging in the motorcycle helmet industry, a more realistic and actual tests were done and they found out that DOT or equivalent helmets worked just as well as the Snell-certified helmets.

Which now generates a simple question of that "are the buyers of most expensive Helmets available today aren't spending more than they should be?"

Ofcourse if you have the money and you can buy the most expensive brand of helmets in the world; then do so.... but if not then atleast buy one that is DOT certified:)

I've read an article about Snell and DOT only Helmets posted by our brother in one of the forums before and I know most of us have already read that article as well.

Its about the fundamental debate raging in the motorcycle helmet industry, a more realistic and actual tests were done and they found out that DOT or equivalent helmets worked just as well as the Snell-certified helmets.

Which now generates a simple question of that "are the buyers of most expensive Helmets available today aren't spending more than they should be?"

Ofcourse if you have the money and you can buy the most expensive brand of helmets in the world; then do so.... but if not then atleast buy one that is DOT certified:)

CORRECT ka dyan kabayan, sana naman among riders walang DISCRIMINATION when it comes to riding gears whether you are using a high priced helmet or a normal priced helmet but a certified one. sana wala yung thinking that i am a better rider than you are b'coz i got an expensive gear it is everybody's choice and we have to respect their choice, but of course we can always give an advise to any of our friends but make sure it will not offend anyone:? :rolleyes: .

by the way, i have a blue hjc cl14 helmet my tito gave me as a present... he gave it to me coz it matches the color of my bike. kaya lang, It's MEDIUM!!! kaya display lang ngayon sa bahay. Kung pwede ko nga lang ibenta to buy Zeus 508w, ibinenta ko na. Kaya lang for some reason, ayaw ibenta ni erpats (though di siya rider). Kaya ngayon, i'm back to my generic modular.

kahit na generic helmet ko ngayon, i still wear it. kesa wala kahit anong protection head ko.

basta PAALALA sa mga mumurahing helmet ang ginagamit tulad ko ngayon: Gamitin niyo parin. Pero INGAT sa pagmamaneho. Pero save up... for a helmet that meets/exceeds DOT standards.

@anthonyjcrocks, opo, nabasa ko po kasi yung post niyo... at post ng iba...pero bati po tayo hah... :)

by the way, i have a blue hjc cl14 helmet my tito gave me as a present... he gave it to me coz it matches the color of my bike. kaya lang, It's MEDIUM!!! [/I]


good day sir , maliit po ba sa inyo yun medium? ano sukat ng "head" nyo sir? ang medium ay tama sa head na 57-58cm.

medyo masikip lang po... e pawisin kasi ako kaya mas gusto ko fitting ng large size helmet.nakapag-fit na po kasi ako ng large na cl14, ok na ok... di naka-pisil yung pisngi ko... yun nga lang, la ako pambili... hehehe... :)

Madalas ko mabasa sa Attire and Stuff for Riders Forum yung "the price you pay for your helmet will also be the price you think your head is"...

Tama ba yun? Kasi parang ini-imply na kapag ang helmet mo ay Shoei na worth P20000, ganun din presyo ng ulo mo... Kapag Index lang kaya mong bilin na worth P2000, P2000 lang din presyo ng ulo mo.

I know I shouldnt take it literally. Its just that not everyone can afford branded helmets, not even Index. I, myself have an Index, HJC and a Generic modular helmet (which I use all the time). La lang po... parang discriminatory yung remark kasi.

yun ay akin lang po... la po sana violent reaction. salamat!!!

hmm sa tingin ko e figure of speech nga to na kung tawagin e PARADOX.. correct me if im wrong.

the price you pay for your helmet will also be the price you think your head is

tanong ko lang po.. in case me pera kayo na sing dami ng pera ni bill gates di ba di naman kayo magtitipid pa sa helmet at protective gear? I think this quotation should be rephrased with "The price YOUR WILLING to pay for...."
kase given senough money di mo naman talaga titipirin sarili mong safety di ba ^_^ ride safe sirs!

medyo masikip lang po... e pawisin kasi ako kaya mas gusto ko fitting ng large size helmet.nakapag-fit na po kasi ako ng large na cl14, ok na ok... di naka-pisil yung pisngi ko... yun nga lang, la ako pambili... hehehe... :)

sir pag out of town trips (na dadaan sa highway) magagamit mo yan hjc medium mo. sabi sa kin ng isang ex-racer friend, as a guide, para sa AVERAGE asian , use large size helmet around town, medium on highways(express sa tin), small sa race track.

I once destroyed a Shoei helmet from an accident and it saved me. Not a scratch on my face nor my head. Pero yung liner sa loob ng helmet ko which is the styro like thing medyo na compress na kaya yun ang nag absorb ng impact. I never used the helmet again kasi naaksidente na siya. Bayad na ung gastos ko sa helmet na yon kahit mahal, it served its purpose. ganon ko kamahal ung ulo ko. Now i got a new Shoei.

If i used a cheapo helmet malamang basag na ulo ko. Or dahil sobrang tibay ng cheap helmet, baka ulo mo mag absorb ng impact.

Wag na kayong mag intay na maaksidente at ma test ung helmet nyo. baka wala ng next time.

Pero pag walang choice at wala pambili, Any helmet will do as long as meron kahit konting protection.

ako HJC yung lid ko. ok naman. at mukhang matibay

i used index for everyday use nag crash na ko
twice,it really served its purpose planning to buy
another index for everyday use.also have a zeus
but i dont want to test it on a crash(mahal eh)
hehe

I have an HJC for a helmet. As long as its DOT or SNELL approved, its ok. I've seen helmets that looked like a baseball hitter's cap. Even if that's a DOT or SNELL approved "helmet", I think a major accident would dent your grey matter and rip your jaw right out of your face.

Expensive doesn't necessarily mean its more safe. The more expensive ones offer relatively the same protection but are usually lighter, has more features: i.e. removable linings, better designed vents, flipable chin guards... etc...

Research the helmet you're buying. And get a DOT/SNELL approved one.

"the higher the price the safer you get - arai_enthusiast":*

brothers n sisters,
This is a never-ending debate... It's true that even the most expensive helmet doesn't guarantee a 100%-no-injury-event (it even says so in the helmet's manual, even if it's Snell and DOT certified. It goes for ALL protective gear, not just helmets). Im fortunate enough to experience using above-average-priced helmets and gear and I can attest to the fact that you DO get what you pay for (in most cases anyway :D) BUT there certainly is NOTHING wrong with using a more affordable helmet (like Index, for example) and other protective gear. The point here is OUR SAFETY. It's better to have a helmet/protective gear on than nothin at all... And you know what's EVEN BETTER protection - RESPONSIBLE RIDING (it goes hand-in-hand with all the body armor and helmets). All the best helmets and body armor CANNOT protect you from YOURSELF if, er, you can't really "ride"... And the BEST PROTECTION? Yup, you guessed it - A PRAYER... :D

AMEN!

Kagaya nga ng sinabi ng lahat, don't take this literally.
Buying a cheap helmet (just to say that you have one) is not good.
You need a comfortable, best-fit and versatile helmet.
You can buy a decent helmet for 2k+, but you can also spend more, if you have more money. Basically people want to save the most, so buy a "bang-for-the-buck" helmet for you, then buy some more safety gears if you have extra.

"It's not what you wear that makes you expensive, it's how you ride."
"Safety is priceless..."

Been using KBC brand for almost 4 months now, great design and graphic not so costly around 250 to 350 USD,I owned 3 models and it will go toe to toe with Arai,Shoei and Soumy.No offense to those who own those mentioned helmets this is just a comparison.In the future my next helmet will Shoei or Soumy Brand.Peace mga Kabayan.

AMEN!

Kagaya nga ng sinabi ng lahat, don't take this literally.
Buying a cheap helmet (just to say that you have one) is not good.
You need a comfortable, best-fit and versatile helmet.
You can buy a decent helmet for 2k+, but you can also spend more, if you have more money. Basically people want to save the most, so buy a "bang-for-the-buck" helmet for you, then buy some more safety gears if you have extra.

"It's not what you wear that makes you expensive, it's how you ride."
"Safety is priceless..."

Tama ka at si rimshot!

Kung ikaw ay hindi disiplinado sa pagmamaneho e kahit lahat ng safety gears ay suot mo tiyak na kapahamakan parin ang aabutin mo.

Kahit hindi siya expensive helmet pero quality fit and finish siya at siempre it should meet the safety standard like DOT/SNELL.

I think ang wise buyer or wise spender ng pera ay yung bibili ng helmet na mura pero pumasa sa safety standard at quality ang fit and finish naman siya.

di kylangan ng mhal basta lagi lang magingat! tama na ung helmet na my quality ingat lang talaga mga bro!

Great remark,ride safe and sound.

we got some cheap but DOT certified helmets,20k helmet?not practical for an average biker.

we got some cheap but DOT certified helmets,20k helmet?not practical for an average biker.

yupyup 20k or even 10k helmets are impractical on most average biker but then again thats what make some riders stands out, they can afford to be impractical

Been using KBC brand for almost 4 months now, great design and graphic not so costly around 250 to 350 USD,I owned 3 models and it will go toe to toe with Arai,Shoei and Soumy.No offense to those who own those mentioned helmets this is just a comparison.In the future my next helmet will Shoei or Soumy Brand.Peace mga Kabayan.
:)
mahal pa rin nyang helmet mo sir....around PhP 12500 - 15000... mga bigtime lang talaga cguro maka-afford bumili ng helmet na kagaya ng sa iyo..peace:)

ok lang mahal na helmet......mas mahal ang nasa loob ng ulo ko ...hehehe...

Sold my tito's HJC and bought a 508w for P4000 (from page 1). I've been using it for more than 6 months now. Mula nung March, nung sinimulan ko itong thread na ito, narealize ko po na di dapat nagfofocus sa helmet lang ang mga riders kundi sa iba pang safety gears as well. For newbies like me, lalo sa mga estudyante like me rin na wala pang source of income, ang masasabi ko lang ay di kailangang super High-end ang helmet niyo... as long as it meets/exceeds DOT standards, you're good to go. Ingat din sa fake helmets and ingat sa pagmomotor.

Saya talaga dito sa MCP, dami ko natututunan. :) Ride safe sa ating lahat! Merry Christmas! :)

d naman lahat ng mahal safe. ung airoh ang mahal pero d ata dot or snell certified. paki correct n lng kung mali me. ride safe brothers!

Tama hindi kailangan napakamahal ng helmet para ma protect ang head. Naka base ito sa quality, fit and finnish at siempre safety standards (like dot/snell/ece, etc...) for me... Pasalamat tayo maraming reliable helmet brands na affordable or kasyang kasya sa budget ng karamihan sa atin na available locally.

Basta DOT/Snell/ece approved and is full-faced ok sa akin. Even if it costs less than Php 4,000 (mayroon bang ganun?:D )

I saw full faced zeus helmets at action hobbies for just p1900. I think they are good. Ive tried bell, simpson, hjc.. i have over ten helmets and the zeus seems to be of good quality, and it certainly does not mean my head is worth p1900!

for the price of one arai or shoei i can buy 4 or 5 zeus or hjc so i have a new helmet every 2 to 3 years, helmets expire.... A brand new hjc might give better protection than a 5 to ten year old arai. And a new helmet will always smell better than an old one, sweat, body acids, and minor impacts will degrade a helmet.

bro, the remark was a figure of speech.it means buy the best helmet your money can afford to protect your head.

minsan kasi, mc owners tend to spend a lot of money just to modify their ride and mind you, sa sobrang daming mga burloloy na ang mga nakakabit halos makakabili na sila ng magandang brand ng helmet.nawawala minsan yung concern natin bumili ng quality safety gears.

yun lang ang napapansin ko.

ye'up! jetzone is right! Do your home work before you buy a helmet... I can't afford an Arai or Shoei (saving up for an x-11:L ) right now... but I did buy one that is DOT & SNELL Approved! Make sure that they are at least DOT approved...SNELL is the samething but they have a higher standards.

Try to get a carbonfiber one too... it's really light and very strong, but once again it all comes down to $ so...buy what your wallet allows!

Also, try the helmets on... not all helmets are shaped the same, just like our heads! so, try some on and see what is comfortable....remember you will be wearing it for extended periods so, comfort is a must!

Mga sir yun kayang 20,000 worth of helmet can save from broken bones? Yup! Our head is safe, paano naman yung katawan natin? So, if I have 20,000 budget for helmet only, divide ko na lang ito sa body armor then Zeus na Helmet. So sa 20,000 safe na buong body mo.

Mga sir yun kayang 20,000 worth of helmet can save from broken bones? Yup! Our head is safe, paano naman yung katawan natin? So, if I have 20,000 budget for helmet only, divide ko na lang ito sa body armor then Zeus na Helmet. So sa 20,000 safe na buong body mo.

Well, true your body will be unprotected...but the rest of your body is flexable to a point...your head isn't.

Your right about getting armor for the rest of your body too...there are alot of helmets out there that are excelent helmets with a lower price!

Well, true your body will be unprotected...but the rest of your body is flexable to a point...your head isn't.

Sir if you crash do you think you can flex your body. I don't think so? That's why we have body armor to protect our flexible body because we can't say what part of body will be affected. Instinct na po ng tao na protektahan ang head nya, no matter what. But when you say hard hitting crash, well, no more flexible body and no instinct, just protective gear can count in. So, do you want to protect your head over your body. Did you know the accident in C5, I think even he wore the most expensive helmet in the whole univerese he can't even survive that accident. I not saying body armor can save you from that kind of accident.

napag uusapan na rin naman ang helmet,san ba pde makabili ng ZEUS na maraming pagpipilian na model? d2 po ako sa laguna,yung pinaka malapit po sana d2. ty......

Sir if you crash do you think you can flex your body. I don't think so? That's why we have body armor to protect our flexible body because we can't say what part of body will be affected. Instinct na po ng tao na protektahan ang head nya, no matter what. But when you say hard hitting crash, well, no more flexible body and no instinct, just protective gear can count in. So, do you want to protect your head over your body. Did you know the accident in C5, I think even he wore the most expensive helmet in the whole univerese he can't even survive that accident. I not saying body armor can save you from that kind of accident.

Don't get me wrong Nhess, All I'm saying is the rest of your body has joints that will allow it to move freely if hit making the impact less damaging...your skull does not flex or move. Plus, read what my first reply to you... I said the body is flexable to a point...

Anyway Pare ko, All the gear in the world wont help if you dont use the most important gear you have! It's the one in your helmet:clap: ...

Ride Safe Brother!

Mga sir yun kayang 20,000 worth of helmet can save from broken bones? Yup! Our head is safe, paano naman yung katawan natin? So, if I have 20,000 budget for helmet only, divide ko na lang ito sa body armor then Zeus na Helmet. So sa 20,000 safe na buong body mo.

yup i agree here. i have a zeus full face modular helmet P3200, an upper body vest with chest, back, shoulder and elbow/forearm protectors p3000. the back protector is the hard plastic articulated type very good. steel toed high cut boots P2000. shin/knee guards p1000. gloves p800. for a total of p10,000 i have full body protection :D

Don't get me wrong Nhess, All I'm saying is the rest of your body has joints that will allow it to move freely if hit making the impact less damaging...your skull does not flex or move. Plus, read what my first reply to you... I said the body is flexable to a point...

Anyway Pare ko, All the gear in the world wont help if you dont use the most important gear you have! It's the one in your helmet:clap: ...

Ride Safe Brother!

OK sir. Sorry, carried away lang po. Ride Safe din po.

Ibig sabihen nun ay "kung pinahahalagahan mo ang ulo mo, buy yourself a helmet that could provide you the maximum protection". If hinde kaya ng budget mo, if worth 2k lang kaya mo bilhen, don't expect that helmet to provide you the best protection.

I've seen helmet break apart together with the head of the rider. I've seen helmets endure the impact without breaking or even showing cracks. And that my freind is the dangerous kind. You see, helmets are suppose to absord the energy of the impact by cracking (tama ba yun word ko) but only to a certain degree. Kasi if masyado matigas yung helmet, yung skull at utak ng rider ang maka receive the force ng impact.

I agree with doc.
Ive heard people admiring a helmet because it did not crack on impact. Some also advise not to buy a certain brand of hlemet because they saw it crack or deform on impact. Obviously these people dont know how a helmet should work.

A helmet absorbs most of the impact energy by collapsing/deforming. The EPS lining inside the hard outer shell does most of the absorbing. The hard outer shell also absorbs a little energy by cracking/crushing or delaminating in the case of composite materials.

the dot certification is required by law i think to make the helmet street legal. The snell certification is voluntary.

there are debates wether snell helmets are really better, for one thing they are much more expensive, some say unreasonably so.
Some say a snell certified helmet is too stiff/hard to absorb impact and as a result transmits more force to the head than a dot certified helmet. Snell helmets are designed with a harder outer shell to resist penetration but this also results in more impact energy transmitted to the head in a crash.

In mild to moderate crashes you may actually suffer less injury with just a dot helmet!

In more severe crashes a snell helmet may survive the crash but the rider may not! hahaha
..just my opinion :)

kung kaya mo mag-budget ng 20k for a helmet, i'm sure kaya mo din mag-budget para sa ibang safety gears.