need your opinion guys on which helmet to buy. for every day errand use lng naman sana...help! cant decide!

Brother, tignan mo muna kung it meets or exceeds DOT or SNELL standard.
Please visit the thread subject 'dangerous helmets' under also dito sa Attire and stuff for riders forum and tignan mo doon ang links ng mga websites.

Pahabol lang brother, dapat either DOT or SNELL 'certified' ang bilhin mo dapat. Again check the link or websites na nai-post sa thread subject 'dangerous helmets'. Nandoon ang mga informations kasi, sa mga links na iyon. Hope this helps.

pre mas maganda ung cl33 kaso mas mahal nga lng kesa sa zeus.

hjc cl33:)

try to test the fit. people have different size and shape of heads. choose the one that has the most comfortable fit for you. I have hjc and zeus. the hjc seems to have more foam and feels like a more luxurious and expensive helmet. the zeus face shield and chin bar seems too close to my face.

try to test the fit. people have different size and shape of heads. choose the one that has the most comfortable fit for you. I have hjc and zeus. the hjc seems to have more foam and feels like a more luxurious and expensive helmet. the zeus face shield and chin bar seems too close to my face.
Brother tama ka diyan! It should be snug fit. I tried Zeus, but it was not snug fit, so I choose HJC because it is more comfortable and fit's well sa head ko.

R1,
same observation ntin.i got a 508 last january.d ko ngustuhan ang fitting kaya binenta ko.mas secure pakiramdam ko sa hjc.and one sze smaller ang zeus para dun sa mga bibili pa lng.

I'd choose the CL33, great helmet!! :clap:

hope this helps you in making a decision ....

http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-helmets/motorcycle-helmet-faq.htm

Bro. deptom, ok ang site na iyan, pero in my humble opinion, mukhang biased ang author or writer ng website na iyan. Mukhang galit siya sa SNELL. Alam naman natin talagang mas-gusto ng mga bikers ang DOT/SNELL certified helmets. Mukhang hindi rin siya bilib sa SNELL at para sa akin hindi lahat tama ang opinions niya or sinabi niya. Ang nabili kong new helmet (HJC CL-14) ay DOT at SNELL standard/certified at ang gaan or hindi siya mabigat.

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Sabi niya dito:
All motorcycle helmets sold in the U.S.A. must be DOT certified, but they are not required to be Snell certified. A motorcycle helmet that carries both DOT and Snell certification may have gone through different testing schemes, but may not necessarily be superior to helmets that carry only the DOT certification, although many motorcyclists look for both DOT and Snell certification. Snell publishes a listing of motorcycle helmets that are Snell certified on their website.

At dito:
You may hear different opinions about this particular test, and some manufacturers claim that a helmet designed to meet the Snell edge anvil test may end up being heavier than the same model designed to meet DOT-only or ECE 22.05.

Heavier helmets may not be as desirable as lighter helmets (see below), and may cause different types of trauma in case of an accident.
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I think (if I am not mistaken) nauna pa ang SNELL nag-test ng helmets or nauna pa itong nabuong organization kaysa sa DOT. Nabasa ko last 2002 pa at alam ko nasa smf.org ang history na ito.

For your information lang. I just want to share itong article na ito sa smf.org mismo:

The Leader in Helmet Safety Testing for almost 50 Years

Though the name William "Pete" Snell may not be familiar, anyone who enjoys motorcycling, automotive racing, skiing, horseback riding, bicycling, in-line skating and/or skateboarding, they should know about the Snell Memorial Foundation.

As a memorial to Pete, a group of scientists, physicians, racing colleagues and friends teamed together in a dedicated effort to promote research, education, testing and development of standards geared to improve the effectiveness of automotive racing helmets. Through their work, the Snell Memorial Foundation was established in 1957. The Foundation has a Board of Directors that oversee the Foundation's operations. The board is comprised of Medical Doctors and Ph. Ded research scientists and engineers, all of which have distinguished themselves in the areas of safety and/or head injury.

Today, Snell is known for its ongoing work in setting, maintaining and continually upgrading the most authoritative helmet standards in the U.S. and throughout the world. Snell tests thousands of helmets each year and maintains its objectivity by remaining independent of helmet manufacturers, as well as local and national governments. Its state-of-the-art testing facility is located in North Highlands California, just outside Sacramento.

Helmets meeting Snell Standards provide the highest level of protection available. Snell Standards significantly surpass those set by the U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT), the American National Standards Institute (ANSI), the American Society of Testing Materials (ASTM) and the U.S. Consumer Products Safety Commission's 16 CFR Part 1203.

In order to continuously monitor the quality of helmets being sold to the public, Snell purchases and tests samples of currently certified helmets from the marketplace. These helmets are tested only in Snell labs by Snell technicians. Should a currently certified helmet fail, the helmet manufacturer must take corrective action to Snell's satisfaction.

To take advantage of technical and research development and to provide the highest degree of safety to consumers, Snell Standards are updated about every five years. Updates are based on new Scientific Research and available manufacturing technology.

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I would say, go for whichever helmet fits you better. Both of them are from good makers naman. :)

By the way, I think there's is a VERY big misconception sa helmets dito. For everyone's info, if you see na Snell rated ang isang particular model sa US, it doesn't mean Snell version ren binebenta dito. Usually, mas mahal at mas mabigat ang Snell version ng isang particular helmet. Of course I'm not saying that Snell isn't good but just to clarify, its not necessary in many parts of the world.

If you notice, many Europeans don't really care about Snell since their ECE standard is VERY strict already (even in FIM rules, Snell is not required for a race helmet). But baliktad naman US cuz pag di walang "Snell" logo, mahirap i-market ang helmet so manufacturers have no choice but to spend alot to undergo Snell testing.

Many helmet makers selling alot in the US will usually have Snell rated helmets there but will actually use the European standard for helmets sold everywhere else (except for Arai or Shoei). Just a clarification cuz I didn't know it too before. :)

If you notice, many Europeans don't really care about Snell since their ECE standard is VERY strict already (even in FIM rules, Snell is not required for a race helmet). But baliktad naman US cuz pag di walang "Snell" logo, mahirap i-market ang helmet so manufacturers have no choice but to spend alot to undergo Snell testing.


Again I am posting this other portion of the article I sent yesterday. This is a continuation only.


The Snell safety helmet standards are recognized in the U.S. and worldwide through support of the following organizations:

* American Motorcyclist Association (AMA)
* Sports Car Club of America (SCCA)
* NASA Pro Racing
* CART Racing
* Indianapolis 500
* American Power Boat Association (APBA)
* Federation Internationale de L'Automobile (FIA)
* the Federation International Motorcyclists (FIM).




It means FIM is supporting also SNELL.

True, true. FIM supports Snell as it has one of the most stringest rules for helmet safety in the world. If you visit their website, you will find out that they also support ECE (European), ACU Gold (UK), etc in no particular preference.

Also, Snell-rated helmet model sold in one market (like USA) doesn't necessarily mean that the same helmet model sold elsewhere also carries the Snell approval.

I'm not putting down Snell (since its one of the benchmarks in helmet safety) but I also like to point out some myths regarding helmet safety standards.

Was I was trying to say was:
a) FIM, being one of the autorities in motorcycling, doesn't discrimate a non-Snell helmet. And..
b) Since some helmet models that has Snell in the US but not Snell in other markets doesn't mean that helmet isn't as safe as the Snell version. Many helmet makers usually make a Snell and a non-Snell version (ECE usually).

:)

I don't know if this has been posted already. Nonetheless,.........

This link is a long read. It is a good read, however. This link, at the very least will probably invite us to see DOT, ECE, and SNELL in a different light.

http://motorcyclistonline.com/gearbox/hatz/

To Marlboro: My suggestion is for you to pic one which YOU are most comfortable with.

for me HJC no contest..

thanks for the info guys, ill try to fit both and compare. pero parng gusto ko un 33! =b