...his family has refused us from getting near him.they think we are to blame for the accident...

:rolleyes: why would they blame us? the accident happened before there was a discussion of anything about this in this forum. tayo na nga yung nakikiramay, tayo pa yung sisisihin.The best person to ask is your friend,not his family if he's willing to let us see what happened to his helmet. otherwise parati na lang tayong mag i-speculate kung papano nadagdagan ng pinsala ng helmet nya yung ulo nya.

if he's well enough, maybe he needs to re consider to let us see what happened to his helmet..kasi hindi lang sya ang nakabili ng ganitong modelo.for the safety of the others, i hope he whould consider.

eto na nga, meron ng representative ang zeus para imbestigahan yung helmet na gamit nya.:C

mr jetzone, his family is not angry at all of us.sa amin lang na kaibigan nya.d kayo.alam mo na, yung reaction ng mga magulang na lahat may kasalanan kahit d nman talaga.galit cla kasi kung d namin sya sinama nung araw na yon d sys nadisgrasysa.pero ok lang yon.hwag na natin palakihin yon kasi d yon ang issue.kaya nga pinabayaan ko na muna para lumamig na lang ulo nila ng kusa.

mr jetzone, his family is not angry at all of us.sa amin lang na kaibigan nya.d kayo.alam mo na, yung reaction ng mga magulang na lahat may kasalanan kahit d nman talaga.galit cla kasi kung d namin sya sinama nung araw na yon d sys nadisgrasysa.pero ok lang yon.hwag na natin palakihin yon kasi d yon ang issue.kaya nga pinabayaan ko na muna para lumamig na lang ulo nila ng kusa.


:rolleyes: ok...wishing him well and for immediate recovery,sa tutuo lang, i am really bothered about dun sa visor na naging jagged edge..what if sa mga mata nya yun tumama?:C

Ang ikinaganda with European Standards is ang mandatory batch testings ng any brand of helmets European made bago irelease sa riding public. Sumatotal " What this means to the consumer is the quality of the helmet in meeting the ECE 22.05 standard is assured by a mandatory sample testing of every production of helmets before they leave the factory, not with random testing performed after thousands of helmets with unknown quality are delivered to the dealers".

ECE Standards ang dahilan kung bakit napabili ako ng european made helmets much to say tingnan nyo nlang ang european made cars pagdating sa standards or automotive industry nila classic and dating mahal pero safety measures i consider EU Standards second sa Japanese.


ano po ba ang ibig sabihin neto "mandatory sample testing of every production of helmets before they leave the factory"

kung tama po ang iniisip ko, "non- destructive test" po ba ang gingawa ng ECE?

Pegs, Jetzone has a point point here. I would go as far as asking Zeus Helmet company to send an official representative to your friends house to gather the evidence kasi willing to cooperate naman ang company na to eh. If they have the expertise and the facility to look into the matter, they should
be spearheading this kasi part ito ng continuing R&D ng ating mga future helmets. Good idea na palamig muna kayo at kayo din ay mag iingat palagi.

ano po ba ang ibig sabihin neto "mandatory sample testing of every production of helmets before they leave the factory"

kung tama po ang iniisip ko, "non- destructive test" po ba ang gingawa ng ECE?

Sir Suzer,

Example for every 100 pieces sa nagawa nilang helmets itetesting ang 5 or sampung piraso nito crash pinned breaking. Kpag pumasa ang first 5 batch nito pasok ang remaining sa market. Idinagdag ang gnyang testing comparing sa dalawang U.S standards SNELL AT DOT typical ksi sa nasabing SNELL AT DOT Standards ang requirements/specification of materials lamang para pumasa ok na. Pinagaralan European Manufacturers na idagdag ang ganitong testings sa helmet at yun ang naging Premuim Certifications.

ECE certified helmets are a littlebit pricey but worth. The best way is to save and assure of the authentications of such brands yun ang importante. Sa MC hindi tayo naka seatbelts yan ang tutoo.

Sir Suzer,

Example for every 100 pieces sa nagawa nilang helmets itetesting ang 5 or sampung piraso nito crash pinned breaking. Kpag pumasa ang first 5 batch nito pasok ang remaining sa market. Idinagdag ang gnyang testing comparing sa dalawang U.S standards SNELL AT DOT typical ksi sa nasabing SNELL AT DOT Standards ang requirements/specification of materials lamang para pumasa ok na. Pinagaralan European Manufacturers na idagdag ang ganitong testings sa helmet at yun ang naging Premuim Certifications.

ECE certified helmets are a littlebit pricey but worth. The best way is to save and assure of the authentications of such brands yun ang importante. Sa MC hindi tayo naka seatbelts yan ang tutoo.


tnx bro for the explanation

nakakatakot tuloy. baught my helmet for just 1550 pesos O thought ok na un kasi its one of the expensive helmets dun sa store... im not so sure it can protect me now. ano bang top of the line helmet???

ang prinsipyo ko kasi (para sa sarili ko lang) if im gonna wear sumthing thats not gonna protect me e mas maganda na wala. Ang helmet para saken ay hindi props lang para maka lusot sa mga multa ng otoridad

makapag ipon na nga...

to think about it, the cyclist using racer bicycles are only using almost a 1/3 head helmet. I think it is not even a half face, but they are considering it as a protector in their heads.

I guess we should try to set a speed limit with regards to the helmets that we are using...
what is the ideal speed when using a half face helmet and a full face helmet when riding on a dry pavement and on wet pavement? What is the maximum speed that our helmets could take when having a direct impact? :eek:

http://motorcyclistonline.com/gearbox/hatz/

guys, if you have the time to read. I think this link has a comprehensive report regarding helmet safety and standards.

Sirs,

Bottomline: Always wear a certified helmet.

I have seen a lot of riders with Helmets on their elbows riding at fast speeds (50-70kph). Bali wala sa kanila, thrill freaks kung tawagin ko ang mga MC riders na ito. Sana kung naka protective gears pero naka sando shorts may iba pa tsinelas. But this is the reality in RP a lot of MC riders ride like they have four wheels and crash bars around them.

Do not test gravity. At 70kmph the impact/stress can shatter the toughest visor. All certification tests I have read focus on the integrity of the Helmet, I have neither seen nor read an impact test on the visor. Why? may be because a visor is not intended to take hard impact. Imagine a rider about 150lbs moving at a velocity of 70kmph moving towards a wall with a visor between him and the wall. At that speed, Wow... God is your only hope...

Kung Uncle ko Bell Helmet natapik sa likod (at Nakahinto along Singalong) tumilapon (ala superman) mukha ang humampas sa kalsada ayun walang natira sa ngipin niya visor integrity bumigay broke at joints.

So brother riders, ride at controlled speeds, yung tipo pag kailangan mag sudden stop hindi mag skid ang rear tire mo or worse tumilapon ka. Tandaan natin na ang kalsada marami ang gumagamit kaya dapat ingat palagi. Ang motor mapapalitan pero buhay mo hindi.

BTW, I am surprised at may Zeus representative who is investigating the accident. Tanong ko lang bakit kailangan may accident for Zeus representative to come out in the open? Last year I sent a query via e-mail to Zeus Main Office re: Air circulation of my (2pcs.) Z508W and (2pcs.) Z990 walang reply. Even HJC re: Modular Helmet Symax walang reply. Got the e-mail addresses from WebBikeWorld. Felt like ang yabang naman ang mga ito sa puti sumasagot sila sa pinoy binabaliwala.

But then to Zeus, thanks for investigating this incident I hope your findings would help save more lives. However, I am hoping you would be more responsive to your clients queries, after all answers do save lives.

Safe ride brothers. Pray always.

God Bless.

Hello all,

First of all, I hope pegs' friend recovers very soon as motorcycle accidents, no matter how light or serious, are always sad to know especially as a biker myself.

Some of the guys emailed me regarding this issue a few weeks back so we requested Zeus to look help look into this matter.

Please don't take it against helmet companies when they don't reply to inquiries (I know how it feels hehe). But please understand that these companies are very busy making alot of helmets a year and imagine how much work it will take if they answered each and every query. If you have questions regarding Zeus helmets, please direct them to us instead. While we are not 100% sure we can answer all since are not the manufacturer, we will try out best to satisfy them.

I also like to thank our Zeus helmet supporters!! I know there are still some who doubt that Zeus have safety certifications on ALL their helmets but trust me, my company order helmets ONLY with safety certifications. Zeus is relatively young and not as famous yet but they have many technical products and they actually manufacture for a number of well-known helmet brands.

gud day..sana ok na friend mo....

imo,mas may tiwala pa rin talaga ko sa fullface helmet kesa sa half face.kc pwede pa rin ma injured ang panga mo or lower face mo pag naka half face ka.kaya for me,lagi kong payu pag may nag tatanung,mag fullface na lng.kahit backride ko,d ko pinagagamit nang half face.

safe ride mga manay.

Please mmga tol use ur heads. why would anyone prefer using a half face helmet instead of a full face one? Kabobohan na un, comportable kanaga sa half face mas exposed ka naman sa shrapnel. I was into a car/.moptorcycle crash nitong sunday ng 1pm lang. I was unsing a full face flip front helmet by Zeus. gas gas lang although nag bounce pa daw ung ulo ko sa pavement pero gas gas lang inabot ng helmet ko. No breakages wat soever. As for the the certification, kalokohan un. Buy all your helmets sa mga certified distributors. ung mga nagbebenta ng mga big bikes. they will not sell you what can kell you. sa may katipunan, meron. they know what you need and willl only sell you what you need. helmets are helmets, nasa decision na ng rider what he or she wishes to use on their heads. If you think you head deserves only a half faced helmet de bili ka nun. if you think your head is worth between 1000 to 3000 peso de bili ka nun. basta fdor me my head is worth 4500 na Zeus helmet, if i have 12000 nga bibili ko nun. use your head nt what your cheapness tells you.
Ride safe!

as you have said "why would anyone prefer using a half face helmet instead of a full face one". Preferred nila yun...hindi kabobohan. Yung paglagay ng helmet sa elbow yun ang kabobohan.

Kung ang kaya lang ng tao eh yung tig2000 pesos na modular helmet wala tayong magagawa dun. It is not cheapness to prioritize. Yung 2500 difference nya from a zeus is already worth a full week of work for our less fortunate brothers.

as you have said "why would anyone prefer using a half face helmet instead of a full face one". Preferred nila yun...hindi kabobohan. Yung paglagay ng helmet sa elbow yun ang kabobohan.

Kung ang kaya lang ng tao eh yung tig2000 pesos na modular helmet wala tayong magagawa dun. It is not cheapness to prioritize. Yung 2500 difference nya from a zeus is already worth a full week of work for our less fortunate brothers.

shibby, agree ako sa comment mo share ko lang when i bought my chinese cruiser i also bought a half face helmet FM helmet Made in finland. it is not cheap but not very expensive i remember may DOT approval on the box. when i skid last february ito ang suot ko and it save may head from injury. I do not contradict the views/comment of our friends in the forum that a full face helmet is more safer to be use than a half face helmet. only i wonder why that in USA when i see bikers riding HARLEY DAVIDSON most of them are wearing half face helmet most especially the german type helmet and those sports bikers and dirt bikers are wearing the full face helmets. Considering that in US safety is paramount and people are more safety conscious then why are they using such type of helmet.

for the sake of argument i have just bought an HJC full face helmet b'coz in my group it is a requirement that during MC club group rides it is mandatory to wear a full face helmet. but i am more comfortable on a half face and open face helmet lalo na when on short rides. saka it is not the price that a more expensive helmet is safer. as long as it passed the safety standard of DOT and SNELL i think the helmet is okay. saka pag your speed is 120 km/hr or more and you :* slam in a parked 10 wheeler truck even your helmet is high end. may be you head is well protected and intact but your body will not be. comment lang mga bro no offense mean sa inyong mga views.::) L

Pare kumusta na friend mo i hope hes ok!
Kaya dapat hindi tayo bibili ng mga mumurahing helmets.
kaya kami check namin mabuti kung ok ang mga binebenta namin na helmets.
mahirap kasi kapag fake,kawawa naman po mga customer natin.
i hope maka recover na ulit friend mu.
Lets go ride all day hahaha!!!!!!

hi guys. sory for not being able to comment these past few weeks.medyo busy sa work.my friend is recovering from his head injuries slowly.they have already scheduled reconstructive surgery on april 17.that will only push through if he is fit enough to handle the strain of an operation.after that, it would be again another recuperation period for my friend.i would just like to thank everyone who showed their concern at this time.i hope we all learned something so that at least my friends misfortune does not go in vain.he is very thankful for all the support MCP and its members have shown.i will keep u posted as dilligently as i can.ingat palagi

hi guys. sory for not being able to comment these past few weeks.medyo busy sa work.my friend is recovering from his head injuries slowly.they have already scheduled reconstructive surgery on april 17.that will only push through if he is fit enough to handle the strain of an operation.after that, it would be again another recuperation period for my friend.i would just like to thank everyone who showed their concern at this time.i hope we all learned something so that at least my friends misfortune does not go in vain.he is very thankful for all the support MCP and its members have shown.i will keep u posted as dilligently as i can.ingat palagi

glad to hear that your friend is recovering................just to share my thoughts, no matter what kind of helmets we wear, we should always be carefull, sometimes we tend to be very confident specially if our driving skills are improving and sometimes this is the reason why accidents happens......hth

t a m a ! ! !

sir sau na mismo nanggaling naka halfface lang un zeus nya... at angg aksidente nya ay from from wheel slide... so kung un ang cause "front-slide" malamang front accidebt tlg mangyayare sakanya at ng maaapektohan isa his fron face.. kung naka fullface lang sya di mangyayare un dahil ang dami ko ng naririnig at nakikitang sinasalba ang buhay ng isang rider dahil sa helmet na "zeus" sir sana imbistigahan mo muna ang nangyayari bago po kau mag bitaw ng negatibong bagay sa isang bagay... wala rin akong intinsyon na mag dis-agree sau sir pero my kanya kanya tayong side at ayokong malason ang utak ng iba dahil sa mali at pag kukulang sa pag uunawa ng isang tao.. peace out.

there are alot of factors about what happened to one of our fellow rider, hope he recovers soon and not shun riding a motorcycle for good... i've notice some riders are too comfortable na riding their MC that they tend to forget na some safety factors, yup they are wearing their helmets.. but i saw some riders na nakataas ang visor, hindi nakakabit ang chin strap... etc. just wearing a helmet may it be zues or agv on your head isn't enough.

Hopefully your friend is doing better by this time. The modular helmets are cool and convenient, but really offer no protection on a hard impact coming from the front. There was an independent study here done is San Diego 5 years ago on motorcycle fatalities. Your face will get banged-up 30% of the time when you get into a motorcycle crash. That is a big number to think about. I always wear a full face no matter what, because a visit to the dentist after crashing is not cool. Another most neglected safety gear is the shoes. Always wear something over the ankles (boots). When you fracture your ankles they never heal the same way. Last but not the least is make sure to wear a leather full fingered gloves. My old neighbor crashed his bike going about 50 mph, and I swear you can see the bones through his knuckles, you really don't want that. Be safe out there bro! I know we all try to look cool when we're riding, but always think about the people that cares for you when you neglect your own safety. peace!:*