We have threads everywhere saying that we have to assert our rights as a group. My initial reaction was , why not put up a legal fund to help defray cost of legal expenditures of members who needs them. but in the long term this this might not be viable as legal cost are high and drag into months even years. Multiply that with number of cases per year and you are looking into the millions.
The best solution at this time is to put up a party list to represent the Motorcycle riding and using group. I know this has been mentioned way back and was even suggesting Mayor Bandido to hold the position, But times are asking that we get serious about this. We need a higher level to promote our advocacy and reach into a wider section of the population.
We have The MAP & PSF , they are the lead group who i suggest spearhead this motion.

why not a party list nga?!

sounds good and taste even better! ....hahahaha!

honestly, sa takbo ng mga pangyayari siguro talagang kailangan na nating magkaroon ng ganyan. we need to have a real good representation to everything and to everyone. we are last among priorities ng gobyerno as you observed and we are the most affected and abused as you also observed, take for an example mga riders natin na kung i-harrassed sa kalye during routinary inspection (check point) ng mga pulis e sobra di ba? and also mas maganda para mas mai-push natin ang riders rights kasama na yung mga issues banning us to use the toolways.

masyado na tayong napulitika ng ilan sa alta sosyedad na ang tingin sa mga sub-400cc bike users are poor and uneducated. i think its about time to join the politics.

pinupulitika rin lang tayo... well, mamulitika na tayo! ano say ng mga brader kong riders diyan?? ha??? di ba ok lang? nang sa gayon ay may magtatanggol sa atin na pakikinggan ng nasa gobyerrno, we are well represented e, so makikinig sila kahit na naka dio50 ka lang o ikaw ay naka suzuki burgman 650cc di ba??

and who do you think is better to represents us??

who??

for me, my good choice is jojo medina. the man, the person who started it all. di ba?? or if we get the much needed numbers comes election, like for example we get the 70% of the total numbers of voters in the national level, di mas maraming seat sa kongreso (maybe 2 or more)ang mailalagay natin and mayor bandido can also be the one with jojo medina di ba??

so let's spread the good news to all. sa lahat ng gumagamit ng motor which i think sa province in visayas and in mindanao ay talagang overwhelming ang numbers. lets tell them the good idea and the benefits after.

LET'S VOTE... MOTORCYCLE PHILIPPINES PARTY! (Partido Motorsiklo ng Pilipinas) :clap: :clap: :clap:

hahahaha:clap: .... not bad!

thanks, r castanas

but no thanks:D i'm not a politician first of all. mayor bandido and i discussed this over and over and over and over again and looked at all sides.

first is gastos.. we need around 20 million each if we have that we'll just retire and keep the money:O

2nd is our psf and mcpf ally and adviser vice mayor jesse cruz of mandaluyong is
running to represent us under our party list "biyahe na!!" he will represent us and will fight for our rights. he's the right man since we've shooked hands with him to join mcpf, the motorcycle discrimination or witch hunt had stopped... haven't you noticed????

why? because aside from being the vice mayor of mandaluyong he is also the president of the vice mayor's league of the philippines. As you know the vice mayors leads the council that makes their local laws.. (remember the antibackride, helmet etc etc).

he has educated his contituents to stop making laws against motorcycles and should consult mcpf first. even in baguio , they are now in the process trying to repeal the law against passing in session road.

so one fine day at the DOTC office while meeting Secretary Mendoza about the tollways issue in which vice mayor jesse cruz had arranged, we have discussed the mcpf will throw in the support for him to win as congressman for the party list "biyahe na!!"... ..

here's the formal gentleman's shake:clap: :clap: :C :banana: :banana:

if ever na matuloy ang candidacy ni jesse cruz, i will throw in my support :banana: . . . taga mandaluyong din po ako. jesse cruz will be our voice in government.:D

he's been roving all over the country now trying to get support for his candidacy:C

i have suggested this already in an old thread i forgot what it's name was but shoot! if he decides to run for party list he gets my vote. :)

that's right!!:C

why give your vote to other policitians or partylist that is not interested in fighting for our rights :eek:

this guy is very approachable and down to earth

that's jesse cruz at a recent motorcycle dealer's association anniversary held at shangrila...

and the other picture shows all the motorcycle dealership (mdap) officers throwing their support to jesse with lto usec analy lontoc:clap: ( on the right of jesse is dotc undersecretary who's all out support for him too)

Sir Jojo,

I not about to be the monkey who will throw the proverbial wrench into Vice Mayor Cruz candidacy, but my only concern is shouldnt we promote someone who has been exposed to the inner thinking of a rider, someone who has heard and experienced the problems inherent to our concerns. I dont know much details regarding running for a party list org. but if we will support mr. cruz, i think we still need one who has come from the ranks who will assist him.
Does it realy cost that much to run a party list? We have at least 20 percent of the population and growing who owns a motorcycle including tricycles, we could muster that support if we need to. We might place two reps.

it is nice to hear that someone can take the cudgels in Sir Jesse Cruz to represent the motorcycle riding community in government..

Sirs,

Party list representatives are elected in polls taken nationwide. The slate is composed of 4 nominees (I think) total number of votes garnered determines number of representatives to the House of Representatives.

VM Jesse Cruz is okey with me but who will fill the other three slots?

Next the sectoral organization must be registered with SEC and COMELEC (I think). - MCP, MAP, PSC...???

After all these is done the political machinery will have to be set up (with mods...hehehe) nationwide. Lead time is at least one (1) year for planning logistics and satellites.

When do we begin... Will await your go ahead.

Safe ride.

God Bless.

I would be more inclined to vote for a party rather than a politician. A bunch of riders in congress would really have no other agenda than to push for motorcycle rights.

Does it really take much money to win a party-list? I don't think bayan muna weren't really financially capable yet they topped last election's party list.

Plus, it is easier to win a party list since it is nationwide, and rider population is nationwide. While you can only vote for a congressman in your own place and own district. For example, only a very small fraction of us can really vote for jesse cruz even if we all want to.

Weelllll, lets go with it, whoever it is our rep, if we campaign, within our household, neighbors then I think the chances are much greater...

I am one of the founding members who signed the S.E.C. of "biyahe na" party list so expect mcpf to be active in all the laws that will be passed by jesse cruz. and we will be in constant communication and meeting with him ones he wins...:C

it's easy just approach the president of most tricycle operators nationwide & setup a meeting, convince them that this party will also fight for the rights of the tricycle operators & drivers as long as it's within the bounds of the law. with the numbers of tricycle drivers running nationwide it's easy to get a seat or 2 in congress.

Sirs,

Just noticed this thread. As I've stated in other threads dealing with this matter, I've said that we really have to seriously discuss the partylist option.

The run of Vice-Mayor Jesse Cruz under Biyahe Na is very timely as we can test our muscle without spending our own money. And yes, it is very expensive to run for partylist. At the conservative side, at least 30M is required for a shoestring run campaign. But if it's going to be a serious run, we'll need at least double the amount.

Compadre Jojo is correct. Vice-Mayor Jesse Cruz is our logical choice. He has been working tirelessly with the MCPF in resolving issues concerning the motorcycle community and we'll also be able flex our muscles and find out if we really can make a serious run.

An alliance with Vice-Mayor Jesse Cruz is timely and necessary and therefore I will support him.

Yep, more power for Vice Mayor Jesse Cruz,:banana:
Just met and talked with him when he visited us bikers here last year.

It's about time! Let's bring it on! :clap:

We have forumers here who came from different part of the countries. Well, that means they can help a lot in campaigning in the provinces, etc.

Advance congratulations to VM Jesse Cruz and to all Filipino bikers! :clap:

Let us know what we can do to support this and see it through.

Sirs,

I hope to meet VM Jesse Cruz one day and get to know his agenda first hand. But in the mean time, can we get a statement from VM Cruz regarding his advocacy even in our forums.
It would be beneficial i think and for him to get a wider support from us if the forumers can get to even view them here.
This is one way to have a public discussion and asses his intentions with regards to the issues already raised in our behalf.

Sirs,

I hope to meet VM Jesse Cruz one day and get to know his agenda first hand. But in the mean time, can we get a statement from VM Cruz regarding his advocacy even in our forums.
It would be beneficial i think and for him to get a wider support from us if the forumers can get to even view them here.
This is one way to have a public discussion and asses his intentions with regards to the issues already raised in our behalf.


it so happen that i am searching my previous posts when i accidentally stumbled this thread that i've already missed for a long time(couple of months) Smileycow was right, we should have at least read what VM jesse's platform and plans. and he should start interacting and answers and direct querries and questions to all motorcycle riding filipinos nationwide. thru MCP which is 'free' naman so can start na sa forum..

hope to hear and read some of your thoughts soon vice?!, we're not just supporting you with our one vote, but instead we'll be campaigning to have more votes for you and for the BYAHE NA! party!.

umpisahan na ngayon, coz the election is just around the corner and we should be known nationwide. para mas maraming boboto at makaalam ng ating plataporma de gobyerno!

BYAHE NA!

i will ask vice jesse to start monitoring this thread and maybe hear from him or his assistant raymond:C

the whole mcp community will support you guys on this! :) goodluck.

Also throwing in the proverbial monkey wrench.....

We heard Vice Jesse speak in last saturday's MC Club Pres meeting.... If my understanding is correct, he mentioned that to run as a party list representative, one has to represent a marginalized sector...in his case its the trycycle drivers..... I forgot the name of the national group of trycycle drivers that he is involved with..... He also mentioned that we are "hobbyists" riders (to him I guess).

My concern is that the interest of tricycle drivers and us riders might be largely different......but what do I know......


Anyway...just my tow cents worth....

Also throwing in the proverbial monkey wrench.....

We heard Vice Jesse speak in last saturday's MC Club Pres meeting.... If my understanding is correct, he mentioned that to run as a party list representative, one has to represent a marginalized sector...in his case its the trycycle drivers..... I forgot the name of the national group of trycycle drivers that he is involved with..... He also mentioned that we are "hobbyists" riders (to him I guess).

My concern is that the interest of tricycle drivers and us riders might be largely different......but what do I know......


Anyway...just my tow cents worth....

good day sirs,

i tend to share sir snake1's observation. if we are classified as hobbyists, Vice Jesse is correct in pointing out that we cannot be considered as the marginalized sector, thus, cannot be represented in congress.

but due to technicalities and monetary constraints, an alliance with the Byahe NA party list, would give us the much needed public voice in congress.

the alliance, as an act of good faith, would also prove mutually beneficial should the concerns and interests of both the public transport groups(toda) and the private transport(mc) groups are addressed without prejudice.:clap:

Sir Snake 1 & Arco,
Cc: PSF, MAP, MCPF

Glad you guys can point this out. How i wish i was at that press meeting. Is far as i know hobbyist are people who do things for their own interest like maybe model making. They dont earn or make a living out of it but the point is 50% is using their motorcycles TO earn a living. It is a complicated issue but i leave to you guys to make the best out of it. What we need is recognition and protection as users of the public infrastructure, i.e. roads and as taxpayers.

i think vice jesse quoted me on the word hobbyist.. since i told him that i am a weekend rider and motorcycling is a hobby for me that is why i think it got stuck in his mind:crazy:

i think vice jesse quoted me on the word hobbyist.. since i told him that i am a weekend rider and motorcycling is a hobby for me that is why i think it got stuck in his mind:crazy:

Sir Jojo,

Those are things that cant be helped, that's why i believe we need some advisers on Vice Jesse's side everytime he will be on the limelight. :clap:

oo nga sir although close din siya sa motoriders club of mandaluyong na nag endorse sa akin sa kanya:C

Question lang po mga sirs, is Hon. Jesse Cruz a rider?

the desire that you have sir is a really good cause ---for us---... but i think being represented in the lower house heeds more reasonable and greater cause...imagine the public transport groups... they are well organized but none have come as far as the streets.

siguro sir what we can do is uinte and gather our voices/acts when there is suppression of our rights.hindi naman rally.siguro yung mag ride tayo around the metro.tapos for sure may mga politicians that are into riding who will understand our call...then its their turn to act pero siyempre tuloy lang tyo...

there are many ways of fighting for our rights...honestly hindi pa naman po tayo ganoon ka helpless...

opinion lang po :)

the desire that you have sir is a really good cause ---for us---... but i think being represented in the lower house heeds more reasonable and greater cause...imagine the public transport groups... they are well organized but none have come as far as the streets.


siguro sir what we can do is uinte and gather our voices/acts when there is suppression of our rights.hindi naman rally.siguro yung mag ride tayo around the metro.tapos for sure may mga politicians that are into riding who will understand our call...then its their turn to act pero siyempre tuloy lang tyo...

there are many ways of fighting for our rights...honestly hindi pa naman po tayo ganoon ka helpless...

opinion lang po :)

Everyone is open to voice their opinion.

Let me state some facts.

The motorcycling / riding community is a large number to contend with and growing. So it might be safe to say that it also affects the public as well. Our agenda not only promotes the rights per se of riding like the freeways ban. It also touches on promoting safety, understanding, better communication, assistance from the police, recognition as a new form of transport to better understand our insfractructure needs, to get feedback from the public and the government agencies concerned like LTO. There will be other issues and they will need addressing in the future.

Example:
Young kids are joyriding their older brothers mc's in shorts and t-shirts. w/o helmets and safety gear , why? they dont know. they think they are just riding a motorized bicycle.

PUV ignore Ub's . Why? they are not aware they exist, not until they nudge one to the opposite lane, unknowingly. They must be trained to co-exist with UB's. same with cagers.

MC riders must also be trained to co-exist with PUV's and cagers, we dont own the road.

Our Public insfrastructure did not take into consideration that there will be a time that motorcycles will be a mode of transport on a full time basis not only for sport and recreation. remeber the yamaha C70's, they were for villages and rural areas back then. The ordinary driver was never conditioned to ride the streets with these UB's only motorcycles with large displacement engines, and they were very few back then.

It is not in being helpless that we are promoting our advocacy, we are being pro-active in a sense.

Hopefully, these actions will help in bringing down accidents involving MC's in the near future.