all of us are merely strangers on earth and we live in a borrowed time... somehow, someday we'll gonna be part of the past...so at present do you ever wonder why we are living in this rounded planet called earth? what do think is your mission here on earth? :crazy:

I can explain exactly why you are here but I know a lot of people here do not want to know the answers :D

hmm.. my ongoing mission is to find out what exactly is my mission here. <sigh> that's why i'm in a "profound" soul-searching mode these days
but basically i wanna feel like i'm really good at something. something of value to this world. something to offer...

hi sir frank :-)...well just wanted to find out...most guys here are basically good and i wanna dig more what their heart could share :-)

hello merd...you have something to offer as a person i know :-)

I know what you mean.

I just think my reply would be very contraversial but of course if anyone really wants to know.... :O

Yup bring it on Sir Frank let's hear it :D

to copulate?! :D

come on Mr. Webmaster....uuuuhhhhh am so excited to hear it from you :-)

black, wooow do you think its that all bro? hahahaha....kung kay sino, yan di ko alam...

come on Mr. Webmaster....uuuuhhhhh am so excited to hear it from you :-)

black, wooow do you think its that all bro? hahahaha....kung kay sino, yan di ko alam...

haha... how i wish that raising one is as simple as making one! the reason why i opt to celibate! bwahahahahaha

sir frank, any "guiding words of wisdom"? :D

the making is not that simple, you know that...and the onset of labor for the mothers, God, you have to see that...it's between life and death black...the raising is one great thing...you would never go wrong being positive to everything life has to offer...giving life is one great thing but pulling the baby out from a mother is something i cherish most in my career...:-) hmmm...celibate ka nga ba? magpari ka nalang kaya? kulang pari eh... :-)

still waiting for that soon to be controversial reply from his majesty, sir frank... :-)

Reconstructing my thoughts since a lot of posts have been erased. Anyway...
all of us are merely strangers on earth and we live in a borrowed time... somehow, someday we'll gonna be part of the past...
Hmmm... that is one of several ways of looking at it cornelia. I for one would not agree that I am merely a stranger on this earth... nor are we living on borrowed time. :)

By the way, your title was deceiving... I thought this was about some kinda new sci-fi action movie! Yun pala, it was something much more deeper than space invaders... :O :O :O

I can explain exactly why you are here but I know a lot of people here do not want to know the answers...
I just think my reply would be very contraversial but of course if anyone really wants to know....
Frank posted a reply to this but it was lost due to the server upgrade. I hope he posts it again. :D

I can explain exactly why you are here but I know a lot of people here do not want to know the answers :D

I am sure you are a very good person Woolf and many think they have all the answers so what make you the expert on the field. Claiming to know EXACTELY why we are here.

I am sure you are a very good person Woolf and many think they have all the answers so what make you the expert on the field. Claiming to know EXACTELY why we are here.

Mr Woolf has gained my respect for what he has done to the Philippine motorcycle community. I believe many will agree with me that Frank is one, if not the most respected man in MCP inspite of the color of his skin. I appreciate his opinions which in most intances I found very objective. Whatever his expertise, is not a matter of issue to me, in as much as I think that questioning his background is out of context. Just sharing my opinion, no offense intended

By the way, I haven't met Frank Woolf yet, but it doesn't matter. I apapreciate his results, I salute the man!

The issue was not about what he has done for the MCP. I am sure he has done lots for the industry, and any opinion is welcome, that is how we learn, sharing opinions and experiens, but my statement was made to the quote. " I KNOW EXACTELY WHY WE ARE HERE"
It has nothing to do with not respecting him. By the way I don't know why you bring up the colour of his skin. What colour.
Have a great x-mas

The issue was not about what he has done for the MCP. I am sure he has done lots for the industry, and any opinion is welcome, that is how we learn, sharing opinions and experiens, but my statement was made to the quote. " I KNOW EXACTELY WHY WE ARE HERE"
It has nothing to do with not respecting him. By the way I don't know why you bring up the colour of his skin. What colour.
Have a great x-mas

Same to you, have a great christrmas and a wonderful new year to come. I believe Frank is not brown like me and he took the liberty of leading the cause of brown people of the Philippines. Peace!

[I have learned lately that there has been many problems in the Philipines in the MC Industry, and a uphill battle with the government, but my understanding is that the MC industry is making a slow progress.
I wanted to go and bike over there because I have family ties and my 2 beautiful daughters 1/2 filipina want to go and see where their grandma is living. I am a little worried about taking a 1500 cc bike over.

[I have learned lately that there has been many problems in the Philipines in the MC Industry, and a uphill battle with the government, but my understanding is that the MC industry is making a slow progress.
I wanted to go and bike over there because I have family ties and my 2 beautiful daughters 1/2 filipina want to go and see where their grandma is living. I am a little worried about taking a 1500 cc bike over.

Maybe one of our members can repond to that issue. Anyone?, sorry I don't know the answer either. If it happens, I'm sure you'll enjoy the Filipino hospitality...

OK you asked for it, so for those who are interested I will try to make it as brief as I can. (The complete answer could fill a book easily)

First you need to understand that you are not a body that has a soul or a spirit. You are a spirual being using a physical body to exist and interact at the physical level. Jesus demonstrated this by coming back in a spiritual but visible form after his death to show that he was still the same person after death and that death is just a transition.

God is not a man. He is all powerfull, he created the entire infinite universe and is in every part of it. He created man in his own spiritual image. (This is why there is no conflict between the bible and Darwin. The physical body evolved and still is evolving but is just used by the spiritual being)

Each lifetime here is just like going to university. The purpose is to learn and progress each time. When you return to the spiritual realms after the body dies you remember everything you have done in every lifetime. You know what you need to learn and you know what karmic debts you need to repay. You plan the next lifetime just like choosing a university and the courses to take.

You make arrangements with others who will try to ensure you get the opportunities to do what you set out to do. Some call these people guides, guardian angels, etc.

When you are born you forget all your past experiences and only the character you have built over many lifetimes remains.

Karmic debts must be repaid so some of what happens to you is repayment of negative and positive karma.

As you go through life you will be given the opportunities to learn what you said you wanted to learn. Lessons like detachment, giving, humbleness, faith, etc being critical but the learning includes all aspects of knowledge including the spiritual and scientific. There will be good times but there will be difficult times just like when you cram for exams or maybe fail some.

When you return you quickly realize what you achieved and where you failed and then you plan the next one.

During your lifetime you are sometimes put in situations to pay karmic debts and sometimes put in situations to learn some very difficult lessons but everything that happens to you is a direct result of your own past actions or decisions.

That's about as short as I can make it.

OK you can flame me now :D

hehehe hi frank, you're the man bro:-) might be in HK again 1st week of jan, il call you when i get there

I am hoping to get back to the Philippines on the evening of the 24th Dec and probably won't return to HK until maybe the third week of Jan.

i agree with franks angle on karma and finding balance in the universe, budhism?
. . . guess my short version after coming real close to dying is that life IS about discovery! . . . as in . . . we were put on this earth to figure out what life IS all about, or more like it's THE process ITSELF of actually discovering what our purpose is, not so much what the outcomes of our efforts in pursuing what society dictates we should be pursuing should be (as in financial stability, familial duties/procreating, etc.) . . . . huh? wha? confused? . . . it can't just be about procreating and spreading genes . . . do i need to elaborate. . . ? ;)

. . . hmm, the real kicker, according to frank's view, is that we forget our previous lifetime experiences and start from scratch, and it's almost as if we don't have a choice, like karma will do it's course, bad things will ballance out the negatives (tryin to figure out what i did to deserve a catastrophic freak accident, either in my current life, or perhaps previous life, or was it just "fluke" - keep reading) we've done in our previous lives and good things will reward our good deeds . . . yin/yan?

but in the end, we have choices, BUT we can only choose according to experiences, values, ethics, religious beliefs, wants/needs, animal like survival instincts, how we were nurtured, and the rest is by "fluke"? sorta like a wild card that is completely random, a factor in the universe that is neither influenced by good nor evil?

now, i'm gonna assume that spirits all have different ages? some spirits are older than others? maybe this explains how sometimes you meet people who are wiser beyond their years? maybe older souls?

now, here's another kicker, and i think this goes a little deeper, . . . but with the almost infinite lives and experiences we've had, don't you think that by now, our souls would have figured things out? regardless if we start from scratch forgetting the previous experiences? or does this go back to how souls have different ages? . . . hmm . . . okay, and maybe those that have performed wonderful things in life that have affected and touched countless lives in such compassionate positive ways, are maybe . . . the souls that have experienced more, older souls, and have learned and seen things in a different way and know what to do to make this world a "better" place to live? . . . like ghandi, mother teresa, the dalai lama, jesus . . . ? are they the ones who got straight A's in the "university" of life because they knew the true meaning of infinite compassion . . . ?

. . . and so, how does "evil" play a role in all this? how did some spirits end up like hitler, or charles manson, or sadam hussein, or that dude in cambodia, . . . . ? are they the one's who failed all their courses in the "university" of life because they were distracted by ignorance, greed, power, immediate self gratification . . . ?

. . . i understand what frank said earlier about his view being controversial, with the majority of the filipinos being roman catholic . . .

so, let's here it? from anyone? whether it's a flame, in disagreement, in support, in criticism, or your simply annoyed, whateva, so long as this turns into a constructive discussion that moves us that much closer to figuring out what "IT" "IS"!

thank you for listening to my "angle" . . . er, or is it really "angel" spelt differently, speaking through my physical being, kay now i'm freakin myself out, (twilight zone music in the background . . .)

We are not here as visitors and we are not invaders, coz we were particularly created to roam this planet, if we are to occupy or invade this planet considering that we are all strangers then we shud be having problems co-existing w/ other life forms created by God on earth.

The mission is simple, frank wolf is right comparing life as it wud in a university, but in a much simplier way, being God as the head, he makes the rules, and all we have to do is to follow it! period.

I dnt believe in reincarnation, "everyone is given just one chance in one lifetime", once we die then thats it! The soul leaves the mortal body and all d memories are left behind, (but is written) and for d rest of d ramaining days the soul will do nothing but to wait for his/her final judgement (and d books of life will be opened). One lifetime is to short and while we are in our mortal bodies the single most important thing we shud be taking care of is "CHOICE" God has given us the power to choose, one false move can come to a disaster, u maybe wealthy and rich now from w/c you say u r trully blessed, think again. Jesus did not come down here to die to preached about things that are material, He came down to feed our souls, not d body.... (now flame me!/ nay ko pu!)

yes. we have a purpose. the ultimate purpose of man is to worship and glorify God. only during the fall of man because of sin that we are now thinking differently.

about reincarnation. where does it all end?...until we become a drop of water?:)

man was created in the image of God...but darwin's man is in the image of an ape:O who just evolved to become the present us. whose purpose is to devour nature and die to become a fertilizer for plants to grow:D

flame on...hehehe:D

. . . hmm why am i not surprised that this was headed towards discussion on religion? ;) had to do a little search, cuz i do remember gettin on a related topic before . . . http://72.232.33.194/~dragon/forums/showthread.php?t=5983

. . . and no, this doesn't have to turn into a flame fest . . .

OK you asked for it, so for those who are interested I will try to make it as brief as I can. (The complete answer could fill a book easily)...

That's about as short as I can make it.

That's it? That's what cornelia's mission is on earth? ..........................just kidding. :O

That's what makes hindu and buddhist philosophy very interesting... always makes you think real hard. And right now my head hurts from digesting what you just said. :O

I may not agree with some aspects of their philosophy but I can certainly appreciate a lot of their genuine qualities to enhance the human self - they have a beautiful perspective on life. We don't even have to dwell on religion folks. Although anything spiritual will most likely end up in a religious discussion. Let's just keep with the spirit of this thread and, you know, go with the flow... heehee :D

As for me, well, metaphysics aside, I think I exist to make my partner in life happy. :)

That's it? That's what cornelia's mission is on earth? ..........................just kidding. :O

That's what makes hindu and buddhist philosophy very interesting... always makes you think real hard. And right now my head hurts from digesting what you just said. :O

I may not agree with some aspects of their philosophy but I can certainly appreciate a lot of their genuine qualities to enhance the human self - they have a beautiful perspective on life. We don't even have to dwell on religion folks. Although anything spiritual will most likely end up in a religious discussion. Let's just keep with the spirit of this thread and, you know, go with the flow... heehee :D

As for me, well, metaphysics aside, I think I exist to make my partner in life happy. :)

nice mashimaro, i like your last line there, hmm tryin to get brownie points for the holidays?! lol!

yah, all these philosophies, beliefs, spiritualities, etc . . . very confusing, most make sense, most share the same goals, and yet so much disagreement, enough to cause wars between worlds. . . .

but yah, in keeping with the spirit of this thread . . .

Whatever anyone, including me, tells you about these things you should decide for yourself if you want to accept, reject, ask more questions or put it aside for now.

Having said that, let me try some answers.

Romey,
Your post (#22) is almost exactly right. The only correction I would make is regarding evil people. Most, as you say, are those who have not yet learned valuable lessons but some actually volunteered to do very difficult "evil" things because they were necessary. Nothing happens without God's knowledge and absolutely everything that happens is actually happening for a good reason. There is no such thing as any person or being that can possibly be an enemy of God or do anything at all that God does not permit. I could explain why everything appparently "evil" is allowed to happen but it might get a bit long and boring. Its enough to say that all "evil" things happen for a good reason.

I have done a lot of teaching to people of many religions and actually the Catholics are usually the easiest. For very important reasons I have to mostly just answer questions. Catholics need answers more than most because most of what they are taught simply does not make sense and we should understand everything. I will put my armoured jacket and fireproof vest on now :D

As I have said elswhere, what I teach is the "truth" that most religions and beliefs originally understood before it was lost or distorted to gain power over the masses. Some of the oldest still retain the truth and some is buried in distortion. The bible contains a tiny part of the total knowledge we must all understand.

ejames_cs,
Think about the fact that we are spiritual beings using physical bodies. Every wonder why good people often have "bad" things happen to them? Every wonder why children die young or loved ones are taken away? Reincarnation and karma explains it all. Jesus tried to explain it many times but his teachings were mostly misunderstood or distorted.

Hardliner,
You are missing the whole point that we are not the physical bodies we are using. The body is just a vehicle to use at this level. It all ends when we reach Christ Conciousness as Jesus did and as he said "All men will do what I do, and more." He came as an example to show the way.

Romey,
Re your comments that it would turn into religion. I understand why you say that but from my point of view there is no religion. There is simply the truth that actually needs no religion.

mashimaro,
As long as you are doing what you believe to be right. Then you are on the right track.

Cornelia, I dont believe we really had that MISSION stuff here on earth. We are just here to live and to die, nothing else. The best thing that we can do in this very short life, is to enjoy ang live every moment of it. There is no second chance of enjoying life.



But ok, i still give it to you. You ask whats the greatest (thing or mission) that we can do. I believe it would be to achieve a life that could last forever. I mean a life where cancer, illness and death is not known.



It is a very sad thought, but when we die and after some 50 years it would turn as if we never existed at all.

....owww after all that had been said and after some posts that were deleted due to site updates, after all these different views we have, which i personally respect so much... we have to come up to a perspective which I think is a very simple one...our mission here on earth is to know God, the creator of all things our mighty father...by knowing Him and His goodness for giving us the chance to live in this world, we are able to share that to our fellowmen...that goodness, that love He has on us.

God created all things good, people fall into sin because of the freewill that He gave to men...but basically we are good, therefore because of the goodness God gave us, we have to share that to others... very simple yet quite difficult to follow but by His grace we can do it... we dont have to look further...our family is the first hand fellowmen that we have...

illnesses are part of being human and death is not something to be afraid of, it is the final outcome of man triumph on earth...we are all given a chance to have better choices in life you just have to make it happen...

to sum up: know and love God our creator and love our fellowman.... this i think our greatest mission ...

yes okay we are not invaders God sent us here with a purpose, we are not strangers because we descended from Him..:-)

my very Catholic perspective :-)

---case close--- NO?.....okay u can despise me...

hmm.. for the sake of disscusion id like to ask some opinions related to our spirituality, our soul specificaly,. its somewhat relevant to this thread ,i think.

when does our soul start to exist? at the moment or birth? or conception? when egg meets sperm? or has our soul already existed before we were even concieved, just floating around waiting for a physical body to inhabit?

Then what about a cloned human being for example who has no father and mother but is just developed form a cell from another human, will cloned humans have souls too?
should i start a new thread for this? :D

I can answer from my perspective/knowledge.

The soul is created as a completely ignorant and pure spiritual being and must learn and progress through many lifetimes. This is tough to understand after just saying it is created but the soul has always existed and always will exist. In other words you, the soul, the spirit, are already an immortal being.

As the baby develops the soul gradually takes control. Even at birth it is not entirely integrated. Some say it takes a few years for the soul to be fully integrated with the body but without a soul the body is like a car without a driver. If you understand that our bodies are very much like cars that we use for a while at this level it makes it all easier to understand. When the body dies or we decide to leave we simply get out of the "car" and leave it behind.

The soul is not just drifting around between lifetimes unless it is stuck between the physical and spritual realms as some are for a while. Under normal conditions you, the soul, return to the spiritual realm where you review your progress, plan the next lifetime, and help others along the way, etc. There is plenty to do on the other side but your perspective is very different.

While I say the body is "just a vehicle" it is one of God's greatest creations and our time here is extremely valuable so we should take care of the body and do our best not to waste our time here.

This is how I see it.

In my everyday, regular trudge and toil through the difficulties of life, it's very easy to forget that may be some all-powerful force out there, controlling everything, when seemingly, randomness is the (literal) order of the day! But whenever I stare at the wall in front of me (at my office), where a 2005 Calendar depicting magnificent space photographs from the Hubble Space Telescope, and I'm looking at some distant wondrous object such as the Tadpole Galaxy, and see with an almost child-like delight that there are millions of other tiny galaxies in the background (tiny because they are much much farther away than the Tadpole!), each of those containing billions and billions of suns...I cannot help but feel overwhelmed, because I have NOT the power to comprehend such immensity. I cannot even explain why am I here on this land. But perhaps, I say to myself, there is an entity out there who can comprehend it all. And that entity could only be called God, and nothing else.

:)

I suspect ms cornelia has delivered her closing remarks on this issue, but please ma'm, your topic is so interesting that I guess so many will find it difficult not to share.

I believe many more will share, and I hope they would, but personally I will exercise my 5th amendmend right to remain silent on this issue. I would love to hear other people's views at this point. It's kind of educational to me as I hope to learn something new. Thank you guys and merry christmas to all. It's now exactly 10 minutes before christmas in California.

. . . any of you guys and gals ever play around with google earth? it's basically a satelite image of the planet that you can zoom in and out off and get exact locations and some addresses from all over the world. the amazing thing about it is the amount of detail that it shows . . .

. . . anyway, just try visualizing this (or maybe you have a globe near by), try and clear your mind and pretend you are just a child having no religion or values or anything "nurtured" in your life yet, and just "see" the earth, innocently, then just add a touch of compassion, just pure goodness in your mind, and understand that every being on this earth is really just out to survive, avoid pain and suffering, and pro-create . . . that fair to assume? i tihnk so.

. . . look at the georgraphy, the mountains, the seas, the desserts, the forests. . . imagine all the animals . . . all the people that live there . . .
then you realize that there are "borders" which are actually man made. borders created by different cultures, religions, political structures . . .

. . . go back in time . . . at some point, in one area of the earth. . . god appeared to man . . . and so started "religion", new testament, old testament, the koran, etc. . . or if you go to another part of the earth, other religions like budhism, and hinduism evolved . . . all these "ideas" and "beliefs" spread through word of mouth through different channels. then somewhere in there " the economy" played a role, . . . then add man's innate nature to dominate and gain power on top of just surviving . . .

where am i goin with this anyway?! . . .

oh yah, the "us VS them" mentality . . .

as a filipino, born and raised, i was nurtured into the catholic faith because really there was no choice as did most of you. it wasn't something that was supposed to be questioned or we'd get palo!
and so on we go with our lives believing in what was nurtured in us. meanwhile in other parts of the world, something different was nurtured, and deep down, these "other" people strongly believe that their "way" is better than someone elses . . . then next thing you know, people get into wars and conflict.

the earth is what, billions of years old? and i'd say, within the last few thousand years, humans have pretty much destroyed this planet through world wars, overpopulation, and pollution! (sorry, i shouldn't sound this pessimistic) but, where are we headed?!
look at what's gone on with the war in the middle east, terrorist attacks, tsunamis, earthquakes, floods, etc . . . kinda scary don't you think?

i'm gonna try and not give you the generic " i'm gonna do my best to be a good person, and worship god, etc. . ", we've all heard that. it makes perfect sense. But, what are we actually doing to make this world a better place?! . . . if you ask me, not much or very little! kinda scary huh?!

people are very smart as individuals but DUMB as a group! agree?!! what we need to do is to learn how to be SMART as a group! and be on the same page, and understand that the only way to improve things is to work together (yata yata). and for this, we need to have a VERY open mind.

if you follow the "balanced" way of thinking, like the yin/yan, or karma, it's almost as if maybe we're kinda "balanced". but are we really "balanced"? in the end, if pollution and over population (on top of wars caused by greed and ignorance) aren't controlled, then are we headed for doom? kinda scary huh?!

ultimately, here's what i think, "good" is the underdog against "evil". it's not easy to practice what we preach, in fact, it's out right hard! where is the philippines headed? i can't help but see how ugly the corruption has become and how even decent people have resulted to playing "dirty" just to get by. truly it's sad. we need to get out of the "us vs them" mentality, and we also need to get out of the "i gotta get mine before they get theirs" or "i'll step over my neighbour to get to where i'm goin" mentality. we all know how things should be and yet it's sooo difficult to try and turn things around.

. . . still on the globe? now, zoom in, all the way in, till you see yourself sitting on the computer and reading this crazy guys post on MCP! :D

now, ask yourself, what is REALLY YOUR PURPOSE IN LIFE?! after reading what others on this post have said, and some have gone a little "deep", myself included, can you then at least understand why we can't just say "we're here to worship god, and procreate, and yata yata?"

truly, it IS a deep question.

so now, as for me, my simple answers ARE:
1. to understand why i feel the way i do about the world
2. to understand why i act the way i act
3. to understand how my nurturing growing up created the "being" that i am now
4. to continue to ride motorcycles cause for me, it's the closest i'll get to heaven on earth! :D
5. to understand why i have the resentments that i have
6. to understand how i can be at peace with myself
7. to understand how i can show peace to others
8. to gain more courage and learn from previous experiences
9. to find a soulmate (or is there such a thing? another topic i know) who can help me figure out 1 to 8, or maybe soulmates? ;)
10. and to live life to the fullest! and hopefully along the way, i can touch others in my path in a positive way . . . so that we can all be on the same page in making this world a better place to live, cause we really ARE smart a group, we just don't know how to put it all together yet!

. . my 2 cents ;) (feels weird to hit "submit" this is probably the longest one for me yet!)

my appologies if i bored you to death!!! :crazy:

i hope everyone finds what they're looking for, and i hope this thread keeps on goin b/c it has been a joy to at least get a glimpse of how others see the world around. peace.

As long as you are doing what you believe to be right. Then you are on the right track.


We all want guidelines for correct behavior but I think Frank's quote above sums it all up. I too beleive that we instinctively know what is right and what is wrong. Even a child knows that to a certain extent.

People who do wrong things (morally) know that they are doing the wrong thing, maybe even just on a subconcious level, but deep inside they know it.
And when you do the right thing you know it and it feels good.
People who are true to themselves may very well experience heaven here on earth.

...life is so simple, we are the one complicating everything... yes the FREEWILL....every chaos that happened and are happening are brought about by who else, but men itself...

...life is so simple, we are the one complicating everything... yes the FREEWILL....every chaos that happened and are happening are brought about by who else, but men itself...

..then we blame God,.. the government..the aliens..etc.. :rolleyes:

...life is so simple, we are the one complicating everything... yes the FREEWILL....every chaos that happened and are happening are brought about by who else, but men itself...

+1! . . . but hey, it's men AND women! get it right gurl! lol!

R-1, NO we don't blame God...chaos are the making of MEN not HIM... government? partly...because of greedy public officials...greedy of power and money na rin, cannot be contented of what they have...and what is nauseating is the fact that they make God as their security blanket, pang front lang...

Romey, okay...men and women, people na lang more like it...

Oh ive seen some people blame god, they change their religion when things go wrong in their lives :?

Oh ive seen some people blame god, they change their religion when things go wrong in their lives :?
hahaha! so TRUE!!! as if the "god" of another religion would be any better. duh. it's all up to the person to succeed in this life - his/her religion should be the guiding and inspirational force behind his/her success or happiness. If he/she fails, it's not his/her religion's fault (nor the fault of the "god" of whatever religion he/she believes in. duh. - this is so paganistic) :rolleyes:

Anyway... I think more people switch religions not because of a disappointment with their "god" but more of a disappointment or disagreement with the policies, practises and teachings of their "religion."

changing one's religion is like a bird without its own nest...

hello...just threading along and had seen this one...find it interesting...i dont know if this will still find a place in this forum at this time...just read on if you must...:)

just reading...

My mission is to fulfill my mission though my mission is yet to be known.

Just a thought...this would be a nice reflection for our mission here on earth...Happy Pentecost Sunday to all...

People are often unreasonable, illogical, and self-centered;
Forgive them anyway.
If you are kind, people may accuse you of selfish, ulterior motives;
Be kind anyway.
If you are successful, you will win some false friends and some true enemies;
Succeed anyway.
If you are honest and frank, people may cheat you;
Be honest and frank anyway.
What you spend years building, someone could destroy overnight;
Build anyway.
If you find serenity and happiness, they may be jealous;
Be happy anyway.
The good you do today, people will often forget tomorrow;
Do good anyway.
Give the world the best you have,
and it may never be enough;
Give the world the best you've got anyway.
You see, in the final analysis,
it is between you and God;
It was never between you and them anyway. :L

to change one's religion is just ok... as long as you believe in God, because religion per se will not save you, only God can... religions are simply a different way of believing in the supreme being... but there is only one God, no matter who is he, what his name is, the important thing is to know and to believe that there is.

to change one's religion is just ok... as long as you believe in God, because religion per se will not save you, only God can... religions are simply a different way of believing in the supreme being... but there is only one God, no matter who is he, what his name is, the important thing is to know and to believe that there is.


if all religions are acceptable, then why Jesus rebuked the Pharisees in his time, even calling them sons of the devil?

if all religions are acceptable, then why Jesus rebuked the Pharisees in his time, even calling them sons of the devil?

that was according to the Bible right? the HOLY BOOK of the CHRISTIAN FAITH..... there are other religion aside from Christianity, there are Mohamedanism, Buddhism, Taosim, Judaism, Zoroasterianism, etc.. etc... and all of them have these so called HOLY BOOKS.. but if we were to analyse it, all of them are pertaining to one teaching, that is to believe in GOD... to give LOVE.... but we tends to argue of whose religion is truly acceptable or true...

Even the Catholic Pope, Pope John Paul II (+), had these teaching about "FAITH AND REASON".... bacause truly in the beginning there are no known religion to men, it was just simply being considered as a branch of Philisophy, the philosophy of DEISM. But because of the evolution these philosophy now a days were converted into faith which they now called religion.

Dati kasi there was these so called, SUPREME BEING, then it was called GOD, now it was given a name, and because of these NAMES, people argue who really is this GOD or the SUPREME BEING... but the truth is "WHAT IS IT IN A NAME, DO YOU BELIEVE IN ITS NAME:) OR TO ITS BEING GOD?"

DO YOU BELIEVE IN RELIGION? OR DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD?:)