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Bujock
July 29th, 2005, 02:25 PM
Don't let your emotions rule you..re:PGMA

quite lengthy but may be worth reading........

For love of country, please read

KILALANIN ANG MGA PERSONALIDAD NA NAGBABATO NG AKUSASYON SA ATING
ADMINISTRASYON AT HUMIHILING NA BUMABA SA PWESTO SI PGMA:

1. Wilfredo "Boy" Mayor
* Jueteng witness who admits to being a former operator of jueteng in the Bicol region.
* He claims to have given Monthly Jueteng Payola to bagmen of Congressman Mikey Arroyo.
* He was an opposition candidate for Mayor in Daraga, Albay in the 2004 elections. He lost the elections.
* Mayor admits that he has no evidence to show that the money he claims to have given these bagmen went to Congressman Mikey Arroyo

2. Richard Garcia
* Jueteng witness who is a self-confessed former operator of the illegal numbers game in the Bicol Region.
* He claims to have given Monthly Jueteng Payola to bagmen of Congressman Mikey Arroyo. He admits that he has no evidence to
show that the money he claims to have given these bagmen went to Congressman Mikey Arroyo
* A former member of the PC-INP and a known "asset" of Ping Lacson

3. Sandra Cam
* She claims to have personally given Jueteng Payola to Congressman Mikey Arroyo and Congressman Iggy Arroyo at the Congress Session hall (while Congress was in session). She claims to have deposited Jueteng Payola for former Region 5 Regional Director Gen. Restituto Mosqueda.
* Ran for Mayor in Masbate under Reforma in the 2004 elections and lost.
* Has a p ending illegal recruitment case and pending large-scale estafa cases
* Known in Bicol to have engaged in all possible illegal activities and to be "close" to generals previously assigned in the Bicol region. The staff of known hotels in Bicol would know this.
* Reportedly a lover of Governor Tony Kho
* linked to several election-related incidents, including dynamiting houses of political opponents, kidnapping and murder.
* In her testimony before the Senate, Cam admitted to being a supporter of Governor Tony Kho, who has been charged with masterminding the killing of Representative Tito Espinosa. The case is still pending in court.

4. Archbishop Oscar Cruz
* Says that it is his personal advocacy to stop Jueteng
* His name never came out during the 2000 impeachment trial where
jueteng was a key issue. If it is the archbishop's personal advocacy to stop jueteng, why is it only now that Archbishop Cruz is coming out with all these witnesses and accusations?
* Previously hugged the headlines when he accused Pagcor chairman Efraim Genuino of using female employees of Pagcor as GRO's or Guest Relations Officer during a birthday celebration of First Gentleman Mike
Arroyo. This was denied by the Pagcor chairman and the female employees themselves who apparently were with their families during the
said birthday celebration. Archbisop Cruz made an apology to the families of
the Pagcor female employees. And thanks to the Catholic Church for realizing early that Ong was not a man with a word of honor. They kicked Ong out of the seminary for not keeping the gentleman's agreement for not giving interviews to press while in the seminary.

5. Alan Paguia
* He initially claimed to be the source of the audio tape
* Known to be a former lawyer of Erap and reportedly gets a monthly salary of 1 Million pesos a month from the detained former president
* License as a lawyer was suspended by the Supreme Court
* His credibility and background was being questioned; and more
critical, was his own admission that he made the annotation and thereby
tampered with the original audio tape.

6. Samuel Ong
* Former NBI deputy director
* Came out on National TV on June 10 and claimed that he was the
source of the original copy of the audio tape and that it was given to him by an Intelligence official (ISAFP) who was later identified as
Tech. Sgt. Vidal Doble. Doble claims that he was offered 2 Million pesos and
his family was threatened by Ong.
* Ong had often organized mass actions to support his ambition to
be director of the NBI.
* During the NBI investigation of the Dacer-Corbito murder case, the principal suspect Superintendent Teofilo Vina who could link Ping Lacson to the case was killed in Cavite in January 1993. It is known that Ong who was still influential then as deputy director had a hand in this to get Lacson of the hook. During the 2004 elections, he was ordered by Lacson to join the FPJ camp to serve as Lacson's eyes and ears.

- AND AFTER ONG WAS BYPASSED BY ARROYO FOR THE TOP NBI POST and
chose Wycoco instead.
* He said that he fears for his life. One would wonder how these
words would come from a person who once aspired to be an NBI
director. He chose a career in the National Bureau of Investigation that entails agents to confront death threats on a daily basis. Was the media
presentation, with Ong almost crying out of fear for his life and character
actor Rez Cortez beside him a mere "sarzuela".
* WE SHOULD TAKE NOTE THAT SINCE PGMA BECAME PRESIDENT, THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A CASE OF AN EXECUTION OR PROLONGED INCARCERATION OF ANY OF HER CIVILIAN CRITICS INSPITE OF THE FACT THAT A LOT THESE CRITICS HAVE GONE OVERBOARD.

7. Jose Marie Gonzalez
* "voice expert"Media's so called electronics and communications expert who initially said that the audio tapes were authentic and not tampered. What audio tape was he referring to when Paguia's version was (according to Paguia himself) recorded with annotation and thus was tampered. The other "so-called original" version was only released by Ong on June 10, 2004.
* A former congressman and well-known Erap supporter
* He slapped the house sargeant-at-arms in front of national TV during the transmittal of the impeachment complaint against Erap in late 2000.
* Was given a house in Subic and a brand new red Lincoln Navigator during Erap's presidency.
* Reportedly got 10 million from Mayor JV Ejercito for coming out with his "expert opinion" on the audio tape.
* The only congressman then to slap on the face an apolotical
sergeant-at-arms inthe session hall of Congress for not getting
his way. How barbaric and uneducated.

8. Senator Nene Pimentel
* Senate President during the Erap administration.
* resigned from then majority party when the envelope containing the Jose Velarde account was not allowed to be opened by majority of senate members.
* Held the Microphone during PGMA's oath taking at Edsa 2.
* Went back to criticizing PGMA when he was not chosen as Vice
President after EDSA 2.
* His No. 1 soldier is his long time ally in PDP Laban - Mayor Jejomar Binay. During EDSA 2, Binay brought in the goons to intimidate protesters from the business community in Makati. Since then, Makati has been the site of destabilization attempts against PGMA namely the Coup/Mutiny in Oakwood and their planned EDSA 4 in San Carlos last June 11. Binay was one of the first people seen in San Carlos Seminary.
* Still has ambitions to be president.

Bujock
July 29th, 2005, 02:30 PM
9. Senator Ping Lacson
* He once said that he despised and he never wants to be a politician.
* He is on his 2nd term as senator and he ran for president during the 2004 elections
* has always portrayed a clean, incorruptible image. he always says that he never took a single centavo from illegal means, jueteng included. He has also boasts of not utilizing his pork barrel.
* Most generous when it comes to "envelopmental journalism".
* Lacson has a pool of media personnel on a monthly payola. Lacson's most effective media tool is mass-based publication Abante where Ping Lacson writes in a regular column. Mr. Allen Macasaet, Owner of Abante, reportedly has been receiving 5 million pesos a month from Ping Lacson since 2003 . 37 year old Allen Macasaet, lives in posh Ayala Alabang and reportedly owns a Ferrari (worth 12 Million), a BMW 9 series (worth 11 Million), a Porsche 911(worth 10 Million), a Jaguar (worth 8 million), a Range Rover (worth 9 million), two Chevrolet Suburbans (worth 2.5 Million each), a Ford E150 Chateau Van, and a Honda Accord - all purchased brand new. Perhaps, his neighbors in Ayala Alabang can attest to Mr. Allen Macasaet's ownership of these luxury vehicles. NO WONDER 95% OF ABANTE HEADLINES IS ANTI-PGMA
* Now comes the Million Dollar Question ???? Where does Senator Ping Lacson (who boasts that he does not get his PhP 200 Million a year "pork barrel fund) get funding to finance a successful senate campaign, a decent but unsuccessful presidential campaign, and still afford a very generous media payola???
* He has been linked to kidnap-for-ransom of rich Fil-Chinese nationals, illegal drug trafficking, Kuratong-Baleleng massacre, Dacer-Corbito slay.
* In 1993, Ping Lacson reportedly was getting the biggest monthly payola from jueteng lord and convicted rapist-murderer Mayor Antonio Sanchez of Calauan, Laguna. Thus, the attempt to cover-up Mayor Sanchez's crime by initially pointing to Kit Alqueza , son of general Dictador Alqueza, as the mastermind of the celebrated rape-slay of Aileen Sarmenta and boyfriend Allan Gomez. Ping Lacson was then head of PACC who presented the young Kit Alqueza to then vice-president Erap Estrada and media.
* Ping Lacson has had access to suppliers of wire-tapping devices as early as his PACC days. During a raid of the CIDG after EDSA 2, wire-tapping devices purchased during Ping Lacson's term as PNP chief were confiscated from camp crame and stored in CIDG's warehouse. Said confiscated devices remain stored in the CIDG warehouse until this day.
* With his seemingly infinite monetary resources and political clout as 2nd termer senator, it is highly probable that Ping Lacson himself owns the latest model of wire-tapping/ bugging devices.
* Even with the exposure of his links to people behind the audio tape, he was still the one who had the tape authenticated by a private australian firm.
* He came out with the results from the Australian firm on the night Friday, June 10. How could he have gotten a copy of the original when Sammy Ong (who claims to be acting on his own and says he does not know Ping Lacson) only surfaced with the so-called original copy on the afternoon of June 10? The previously claimed original was the annotated and tampered version of Alan Paguia.
* Ping Lacson's former men in the PACC that could implicate him in his criminal activities are either dead (Supt. John Campos, Supt. Teofilo Viņa, Kit Mateo) or hiding in the US ( Michael Ray Aquino and Cesar Mancao). Lacson quickly points to his enemies as behind the execution of his former trusted aides. If this allegation were true, why would Lacson's enemies target his men instead of killing him (Lacson). The fact is Lacson ordered the execution and hiding of his former men before the May 2004 elections to make sure that no one could directly implicate Lacson in his criminal activities. Perhaps Samuel Ong should fear Lacson as Ong is also a person who could implicate Lacson in the present destabilization moves.
* After the 2004 elections, Ping Lacson became supportive of PGMA's government and even did not join the opposition's protest actions during FPJ's wake. He believed then that if he behaved this way, he would
be a sure bet for President come 2010. However, he again started to be
PGMA's biggest critic recently. Perhaps PGMA's illegal drugs campaign
which has closed down the most number of Shabu Laboratories in recent
years and anti-kidnapping campaign is already affecting Lacson's treasure
chest and he fears that by 2010, his funds would not be enough to run a
successful presidential campaign against a popular Mar Roxas.

10. Erap, Jinggoy, Loi and JV Ejercito
* They clearly want one thing : to exact revenge on PGMA
* This is very evident at how Senator Jinggoy and Loi have been grandstanding during the senate inquiry on jueteng.
* Senator Jinggoy and San Juan Mayor JV Ejercito were one of the first people to join Sammy Ong ( who said that he was acting on his own and the he was calling on Ms. Susan Roces to join him) in San Carlos Seminary. They were interviewed over ANC and both Jinggoy and JV attacked PGMA and repeatedly said that the opposition had an executive committee, with ERAP as ex-officio chairman, that was ready to replace the administration " in case we are miraculously swept into power".
* Boracay mansion?, Rest house in Rizal? Laarni Estate?, Couple thousand pesos worth of wineconsumed by Erap daily?, extravagant and lavish lifestyle of Estradas? His endless womanizing, morals, gambling, whose only legit earnings mostly came from showbiz? against an already known rich familyof the Tuasons and Arroyo's? - Who's probably more corrupt? Why not attack PGMA directly? Coz they can't see any reason to attack? So they go attacking PGMA's family who they know that the Philippine masses are not sympathetic to? We Filipinos should investigate further why key people coming out with all these accusations and calls on PGMA to step down have in one way or the other been linked to leaders in the opposition like Ping Lacson or Erap. We should not take everything that media comes out with as
absolute truths since it is already our country's future that is being threatened by these people. During the wake of FPJ last year, it was already reported that the opposition was hatching a plan to bring down the Arroyo
administration. The opposition clearly wanted to use FPJ's death to bring down PGMA. Susan Roces herself mentioned to a confidant during the wake that some opposition leaders then were convincing her to lead them in
bringing down PGMA.

If indeed the opposition had in its possession the audio tape that they
claim to be a phone conversation made immediately after the May 2004
elections between PGMA and Comelec Commissio ner Garcilliano, why
did they not come out with the audio tape during the wake or burial of FPJ
whenmillions of FPJ mourners were out on the streets ? It could have
easily resulted to an early end to the Arroyo administration. Perhaps
they were still working on the tape with their "expert engineers"
during that time.

The people behind the efforts to bring down PGMA have not succeeded in
spite of the desperate moves they have made primarily because they have
never been united . They have several leaders who all want to be acknowledged as the legitimate and the unanimous opposition leader. There
is Erap and his families who want to regain lost glory and power; there is a Ping Lacson who despises politicians and yet desperately aims to
be president; and there is Nene Pimentel who still dreams of becoming
president which he hopes would happen before his eye bugs covers his face. All these destabilization moves is a result of the individual
aspirations of these people to grab power.

Susan Roces has experienced this when the opposition could not even unite behind a strong FPJ during the 2004 elections. She experienced this during her husband's wake and burial when public sympathy was there but again the opposition was not united. She experienced this during the opposition's planned call for an EDSA 4 last June 11 when according to her confidant, the opposition were still fighting among themselves even during the early hours of June 11 on what moves to take. At around 2:30 am of June 11, Senator Ping Lacson, Senator Jinggoy Estrada, Senator Serge Osmeņa, Senator Jamby Madrigal and Mayor Binay were in Manila Peninsula Hotel in Makati discussing their next steps but still arguing on the details as well as to who would be their leader when they succeed in bringing down PGMA. Susan Roces was supposed to call for their supporters to March to the streets. According to her confidant, Susan Roces just decided to call for sobriety and just manifest her moral support for Sammy Ong out of disgust over the opposition's squabbling.

The opposition's plan for another EDSA did not and will not succeed because the people know the opposition's motives. Of the many witnesses paraded in the Senate Inquiry and media, not a single person would pass as a "credible witness"

And why even calls for NOLI to resign also? Is Loren, who was teary eyed
over the siding of Pimentel to the then opposition more popular to the
masses, considering she was even rejected by the masses and even the
opposition themselves when she decided to run as FPJ's running mate (since
GMA could not really choose another woman as running mate?)? Do you
honestly think also that Noli cheated Loren? Oh, C'mon!

Who is their alternative? Who should lead us then? Angara and Lacson
can 't unify... Pimentel and Enrile are also at odds...

Abat? Lumbao? Bayan Muna? and other left wing party groups who were
present during toppling of ERAP? It seems like they are against every president. Just recently, they went on a presscon with the
ESTRADAS joined hands? Is that what you call true unity or truth or dignity?

Bujock
July 29th, 2005, 02:34 PM
According to the UP College of Psychology, the typical characteristics of a CREDIBLE WITNESS are :


1. The witness is close to the person being accused.

* A good example given by the UP College of Psychology is Governor Chavit Singson who was part of Erap's inner circle or "midnight cabinet". He was very close to the Erap and practically knew the day-to-day
activities of the former president which made him a credible witness in the impeachment trial.

2. The witness has an untainted moral background

* A good example given by the UP College of Psychology was Clarissa Ocampo who testified that Erap signed the name Jose Velarde in front of her. Clarissa Ocampo was then Vice President of Equitable-PCI Bank with an unblemished record of integrity and professionalism.

MAG-IMBESTIGA AT ALAMIN NATIN ANG KATOTOHANAN !!!PLEASE PASS ...
GAMITIN ANG TALINO... WAG ANG DAMDAMING PAMPELIKULA LANG! TAMA NA ANG MGA EXPERTO SA PANLILINLANG AT PAGARTE SA PELIKULA! THIS IS REALLY AN EXCELLENT SCRIPT THAT WOULD REALLY STRIKE ANY POOR FILIPINO'S HEART. TAMA NA ANG PAG-GAMIT SA SA DAMDAMIN NG MASANG PILIPINO

GOD BLESS OUR COUNTRY, THE PHILIPPINES!

oj88
July 29th, 2005, 03:23 PM
Excellent read!

Frank Woolf
July 29th, 2005, 04:47 PM
I agree. It states what appear to be the facts. No more, no less. It helps me a lot in understanding what is going on.

Gaijin
July 29th, 2005, 10:45 PM
Hmmm...
Any reason why the administration of DLSU would also like GMA to step down?

FORZA
July 30th, 2005, 01:54 AM
I believe to bring peace to the phils those people who are mentioned above should be executed coz' they do the country no Good or be exiled but being terminated is good coz' there's no chance for them to go back.
God Bless the Phils hope it changes for the better

littlebadboy
July 30th, 2005, 07:01 AM
interesting read... but that is clearly a counter from a PGMA supporter. so, when you read things like these... ansof course, things from the opposition, be open minded about it too.

I have very high respects for Sen. Pimentel, who's a man of honor. He would side on whoever is right. And, since there is not much choice, he would take sides on whichever is of lesser evil. I would prefer him to be president and I believe reforms should have been fed in and working by now. Although Eddie V., is another personal preferred choice.

It's a sad fact that almost all of the politicians aspiring for leadership now has nothing but personal interest in mind (aside from the 2 I mentioned... hopefully). It is also a sad fact that the moral, values, and desire to improve society of the filipinos has diminished. And... for this fact, I would like to dedicate this (http://motorcyclephilippines.com/forums/showthread.php?p=266761#post266761) thread to all of the readers as a wake-up call.

I think Gov. Kho has anything to do with Tito Espinosa's killing. The leftist groups already took claim for that I think. Besides, if he really had something to do with it, the Espinosa's are also of the "goonish" type... they should have already taken Gov. Kho's life too.

Filipinos, wake up everyone! Let's make things work! For the sake of our children!

Eco
August 1st, 2005, 04:49 PM
So GMA is our only hope? And with her secretaries especially the Justice secretary and her political appointees, the Comelec, etc..., the Filipino people are in good hands.


(hihihihihi)

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ECO

Frank Woolf
August 2nd, 2005, 11:20 AM
Yep obviously from a supporter but I like it because it appears to stick to the facts.

I don't say that PGMA is a great president but she is the legally elected president and so far nobody has shown any solid evidence why she should not be. I don't pretend to know a lot about Philippine politics but if the opposition manages to get her out does anyone seriously believe the country will be better off? I dont see any better or even equal alternatives. Being President needs a hell of a lot more ability than being popular.

Eco
August 2nd, 2005, 02:28 PM
I don't say that PGMA is a great president but she is the legally elected president and so far nobody has shown any solid evidence why she should not be. I don't pretend to know a lot about Philippine politics but if the opposition manages to get her out does anyone seriously believe the country will be better off? I dont see any better or even equal alternatives. Being President needs a hell of a lot more ability than being popular.

Hihihihi. So this country is not only in deep foreign debt but also politically bankcrupt. And PGMA can save the nation even though she is more likely becoming a lameduck President. Well, I can see she's very busy building her image with those looking good photo ops in front pages of newspapers.

Yes, every thinking Filipino believes the country will be better off is she resigns.

And for facts, I offer you the Philippine Center for Investigative Journalism's blog, www.pcij.org


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ECO