napakainit kasi dito sa manila, and for a newbie rider like me which is still in the process of breaking-in my predator-150 easy rider and uses my motorbike going to work (sometimes just cruising) pwede ba helmet lang ang and all the rest is an office attire(short sleeves na polo) or do I have to wear a jacket or a long sleeves na shirt on top, or baka pwede elbow pads nalang kesa long sleeves. Please help me with this one kasi during sa stop light and minsan tagal for the light to go green or for the officer to make a go signal plus samahan mo nang matinding tirik ng araw.... man para kang ginigisa inside an oven. also I heard that if your planning to go to subic or pass-by it kailangan complete attire/gear head to feet ka. or yari ka sa pulis!!!

So please to anyone there magtatanong lang po ako. whats the acceptable attire and whats a complete attire that would not produce any hassel from officers stoping you during the ride..




..........To be in a close connection with the vanguard figures of time or it will hit you like a bat out of hell from behind................

Hello, Bemps!

I also have the same problem when I go to class. Hassle makinig sa professor kapag init na init, hassle naman din dumating sa class na pawis.

I usually wear a jacket, knee&shin guards under my slacks, back and shoulder protectors under my shirt tapos gloves na..siyempre helmet din. :)

When it gets too damn hot, I get rid of the jacket so shirt lang..pero may protectors parin sa loob. Pwede rin yung sinabi mo na elbow pads nalang.

Its your choice, basta ingat lagi

Ride safe..

acceptable? cant really tell you which is and which is not. its really up to you. lets just put it this way. none of us expect too go down. its nothing we plan on doing but when **** hits the fan.....

so this is what i do..... dress for the crash.

as far as i know, the only thing required by law here is the helmet. you MUST have a helmet whenever you go out riding and by that i mean, you should be wearing it. kasi marami na akong nakikita na may dala nga ng helmet, nakasabit naman sa braso o kaya sa handlebar. :rolleyes:

syempre mas maganda kung nakajacket ka at naka-gloves at nakasuot ng matibay na sapatos o bota. para mas-safe.

always wear helmet and pair of pants.
eto dapat minimum pero kung possible wear all the protection you can get.
NEVER SACRIFICE SAFETY!!!!

Bemps
Baon mo nalang yung working clothes mo, Important to wear a helmet, a of pair cloves and maong ... that'll do, kung suot mo eh t-shirt lang .... be sure to have elbow and knee protectors .....that'll do. :)
Then bihis ka nalang when arriving at your workplace. :)

.... But guilty me .... I don't wear elbow and knee protectors, just the Helmet and the pair of gloves whenever i ride to work. :D

Bemps>>

Tama si Wolver. Mag baon ka nalang. Hmm pwede ring...

Mag tago or mag iwan ka nalang ng office clothes mo sa office mo.

Kahit pa naka leathers ka and complete gear, ok lang pag pawisan ka kasi may damit ka naman sa opisina diba?

just a thought... :)

Thanks for the reply guys, it surely helps and appreciated

may natutunan na naman ako!!



..........To be in a close connection with the vanguard figures of time or it will hit you like a bat out of hell from behind................

I prefer TSINELAS because it keeps my feet cool during those hot summer rides. Good 1/2 foam inch padding at the bottom keep my feet well protected. :D

Originally posted by Iszlandsnow
I prefer TSINELAS because it keeps my feet cool during those hot summer rides. Good 1/2 foam inch padding at the bottom keep my feet well protected. :D

Haha! Snow, being the squid that you are, I'm not surprised you wanna wear tsinelas!:D

Seriously now... Bemps, does your office have a shower area? If it does, it would be great to come to work earlier than usual tapos ma ligo ka na lang sa opisina. hehe.

Kung wala naman, yup, mag baon ka nalang ng damit para amoy baby fresh ka parin. :)

But don't sacrifice on gear...

Helmet
Gloves
sturdy boots
knee pads
armored jacket w/ good ventilation
elbow pads (if your jacket has no armor)
a tough long-sleeved shirt if you have no jacket

It has been my personal experience that the body parts that get the most road contact and injury are the knees, palms, elbows and head... followed byt the hips and back in that order.

I really would put emphasis on the head, palms and knees.

Ride safe!
:)

bemps,
When riding always make sure to wear a helmet. Helmet protects your head in an event of an accident. The most important parts are the head and the torso, because these areas can cause death when impacted heavily. So to protect the head you need a helmet, and to protect the torso you'll need to wear whatever you can find that are available--though I only wear helmet.

As for the arms and legs, they're optional, because arm and leg injuries aren't fatal in the event of an accident, and so proteting your arms and legs by wearing pads aren't really a necessity.

The key is to protect the areas of your body that can cause death when being hit heavily.

I agree that the head, torso (and back) are the most important areas of the body to protect from impact.

A friend of mine died, after suffering severe internal bleeding, from a head on collision. His body somehow absorbed most of the impact... his bike was pretty much intact. He was wearing full leathers. And to this day, I wonder and sometimes doubt if with body armor, his life may have been been saved.

However, crashes or rather accidents like that are extreme... they happen but they are extreme. The more common road spills and mishaps, I am hoping, involve less traumatic circumstances... In this regard, your limbs are probably one of the first parts to get injured. The knees and elbows are very important joints. Tearing a ligament or two, or even having bones broken in these parts can be severe enough to cripple. I tore my left ACL ligament on a low side. I was in full leathers... with knee protection. Without that knee protection, I may not be walking right now.

I am not saying that one should dress up to the max in full armor and look so bulky and ridiculous. One can only protect one's self so much.

As one of Jake's threads says: Three degrees of separation... Four if you are lucky.

Those three degrees of separation are 1st (mental skills), 2nd (physical/riding skills) and 3rd... as a back up and your last defense (proper gear).

The fourth degree of separation from becoming "road kill" is out of our hands and beyond our control... luck.

Ride safe. :)

DO:

- Wear a helmet
- Protect as much flesh as possible
- Protect (heavily) hands, feet, back, butt areas.
- Leather substitutes---Synthetics(formulated for riders)

DONT:

- Wear nylon materials or of similar types.
(these melt and you dont want 'em fusing with your flesh)
- Wear Slip Ons (I've seen some folks losing their toe nails)


If you want to neglect these rules and be cool don't go over 40Kph.


Safe Ride!
:*

bemps,
SVince650S has a point. It's better to be safe than to take risks. Although I personally don't use knee or elbow pads, I'm sure they won't do you any harm. But as I've said earlier they are somewhat optional, so you can opt to use them or not--it's fully up to you.

Just remember that the mandatory parts to protect are the head and/or the torso. Prioritize the helmet and/or body armor, before anything else.

Of course having said that, you should keep in mind that not one gear in this world can protect a person 100% in the event of an impact. Nothing is perfect. So even if you're fully geared, you should still ride well--riding skills counts a lot.

Good luck! :)

And by the way SVince650S, I'm sorry to hear about your late friend.

:) I'd like to wear stuff as if I'm going to crash... Helmet, elbow, kneepads, back protector, etc... But it's dam# too hot! What do I do??? :) :) :crazy:

On a regular day, minimum are Jeans, long sleeves and my full-faced helmet...

Hmm, I wish we had cool weather like Baguio or something...:*

Never wear slippers and sandals/open shoes when riding. I emphasize on NEVER.

Just imagine dragging your pinkie toe on the asphat at 40 to 60kph... not a good sight. Besides, I've known people, who besides from loosing their toenails, they've also suffered mangled toes and damaged nerves in their. Thank God I haven't seen anyone's toes get amputated. :D

Originally posted by SVince650S
........The fourth degree of separation from becoming "road kill" is out of our hands and beyond our control... luck.

Ride safe. :)

Had some "whew almost" situations, just three of them ... yet.
Its because luck i guess .... first and second one was because I was reminded conciously to hit the brakes to slow down, first one one was when suddenly it really did almost happen, I was cruising 75-80Kph on a stretch, this truck 200+meters on front of me did a sudden stop, If i hadn't slowed down, i would've hit the rear of the truck real hard. Second one was this jeepney suddenly swerved to the right lane which I was on it, I slowed down earlier at the moment and if not, I would've been kicked hard by that jeepney.... I guess it presence of mind and luck huh. :D The third one (recently posted Slippery Kennon Raod) was a slippery road, I was with my wife, lucky for us, we stopped for a while to rest and moved again, as we started moving at 10Kph my front tire slipped. Lucky again we were still slow at that time, if we haven't stopped at that area, we would've passed that sllipery part of the road at a crusing speed....dang it'll been a mess. :)

helmet, gloves, long sleeved shirt, long pants and leather boots that cover your ankles offer the minimum protection. It should give you enough protection from head injury and road rash in a single vehile (only you are involved) slow speed, lowside. Anything faster or more violent will cause injuries that can be protected by leather jackets or suits and armormed padding in key areas, shoulder, back, elbow, hips, tailbone, knees. Even more violent crashes can cause a variety of injuries that can only be minimized but not prevented by the most extensive of protection.

Your speed and the circumstances of the accident will determine your injuries. You may be able to control your speed but sometimes not the circumstance of your accident. Protect you self as best you can and control your speed and circumstance that may lead to an accident involving you as best you can and hope for the best.

BTW, extensive road rash especially one requiring skin grafts and or losing a limb or any part of a limb are very unpleasant injuries. They are ones that I would rather sweat to avoid than sweat to overcome!!!

Originally posted by Burnout
And by the way SVince650S, I'm sorry to hear about your late friend.

Its cool :C burnout. His death anniversary was last month - happened just last year.

Thank you.


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BTW, extensive road rash especially one requiring skin grafts and or losing a limb or any part of a limb are very unpleasant injuries. They are ones that I would rather sweat to avoid than sweat to overcome!!!
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Yup CDC, I'd rather SWEAT than BLEED! :D

The thing is, when I'm thre, I do not know just how much of the sweating I can stand with the humidity! :D

So Radical!, I really don't know the answer to your question... wear enough proetection that you are comfortable and not inconvenienced by it while riding. Hope that helps? :)

Guys good feedback and being a retired Professional Racer, I cannot stress enough to wear the correct gear. I know riding in good protective gear can be hot and sweaty, however I would recommend DriRider Kevlar Jeans or Cargo pants. These are brilliant and will save your skin coming off if you come off. I wear them all the time and although slightly heavier than normal jeans/cargo pants while walking about they are great on the bike and a lot cooler than leathers. Leathers are not going to stop you breaking bones but they will stop you loosing valuable muscle and skin as does the Kevlar Jeans. The drawback is that they are slightly expensive, around $150 to $170 a pair. But how much would the medical bills cost you?

Hope this helps you guys.

Regards,
Jonno

shorts, slippers, sleeveless shirts, no helmets are the way to go................. NOT!!! :D

not necessarily always wear a riding jacket..
if not really going that far an ordinary jacket would do
but ofcourse for long rides its better to have a riding jacket
also i prefer always wearing pants and shoes parang safe
kahit pano...

I never ride without a helmet and often wear heavy shoes that cover my ankles and gloves too. I like gloves because they keep my hands from geting burned by the sun and reduce the amout of vibration i feel thru the bars. So the extra gear i think adds more to comfort rather than to safety.

IMO, its the helmet and back protector that will save your life or keep you from being a vegetable in case of an accident.
The other gear like knee and elbow pads and jackets just save skin.

to those who suggested wearing just slippers, you're joking , right?

BTW. there was a study that found out that most injuries to the lower leg happen more to the ankles than to the toes. So shoes that cover the ankes are better than steel toed low cut shoes.

Yes, shoes should cover the ankles. When it rains, you can overlap your rain pants over the highcut shoe so that your feet doesn't get wet. Nakabili ako ng used leather jacket for P200.00 only from the American Surplus store. You can find leather jackets sa mga "Ukay ukay". The best leather jacket though is the breatheable jacket whick is composed of two sections, the lower portion being overlapped by the upper section allowing air to pass. I'm still looking for that.

wear tongs underneath! life would be easier during long rides!

wear prayers too! the best shield in RIDING...

Full body armor, DOT and SNELL certified helmet, and knee protectors for long rides. Protection muna bago porma mga Sir! :D

Everyday gear: Maong jacket, knuckled gloves, knee pads .. of course helmet..

I read somewhere that majority of accidents happens just a few kilometers from where you left (home usually). It may be because during the first kilometers, medyo groggy pa at slow ang reactions especially if you just woke up. Mabuti siguro mag warm up exercises ano?

Well, since this is true, then we should be in "full battle gear" even if we are just going to the sari sari store to buy yosi!

What do you think guys?