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Product Details:

Brand Name: YUMINASHI
Produced by: MASATO CO., LTD.
Model Number: HK172R-ST4 K0
172CC 4-VALVES

Listing Description: New 4-Valve Nicasil 172cc Racing engine with 6-Disc Clutch

Detailled Description:

HK172R-STD K0
Ccm: 172cc
Bore 62mm x Stroke 57mm
Cylinder: Nicasil 62mm (KSR110 model)
Piston: 62mm Flat piston
Cylinderhead: 4-Valve ST4-Head (KSR type of head)
Valves: 4-Valves ( Inlet valve 21mm x 2 / Exhaust valve 18.5mm x 2 )
Carburetor: 28mm
Ignition: Outer rotor D/C racing ignition with light coil and special 500gr magneto.
Clutch: New 6-Disk Clutch
Crankcases: Reinforced
Gearbox: STD Gearbox on Needle Bearings.
Oil Filter: External Oil Filter, our engines don't use the old type oil spinners.
Kickstarter Axle: Reinforced by 12% (Kawasaki KR150 Axle)
Cooling: Oil Cooler

The engines are complete with Carburetor, Intake Pipe, Oil Cooler, Kickstarter, Gear Change Pedal, Metal Weaved Oil Cooler Hose, External Oil Filter and all Electrics.

These 4-Valve engines fit on:

TIGER MOTORCYCLE:

ROCKET BOY 110 – ROCKET BOY 135 – KIKASS 125 – KIKASS 135 – MATRIX 125 - CX125 – SMART CX125 - CX135 SUPER MOTARD – JOKER 120 – JOKER 125

MOMOS:

MOMOS TIGRIS 115S - MOMOS FORZA 135 - MOMOS PANTERA CX135

SACHS BIKES:

MADASS 50 – MADASS 125 – MADASS 135

HERO HONDA MOTORCYCLES:

CD-DAWN – CD DELUXE – SPLENDOR+ - SPLENDOR NXG

HONDA:

CD70 - CD90 - CD100 - XR50R – XR70R – CRF50F – CRF70F - WAVE100 (All) – WAVE110 (All) – SOLO (2003) - NICE110 (ZN110 – ZN110C ) – NICE110 U-BOX (ZN110T) – 12V CDI BENLY CL50 – LITTLE CUB 50 - MONKEY R (Z50JRH - 1987) – MONKEY RT (Z50JRJ / 1987 - 1988) – ZB50 (1987) – MONKEY BAJA (Z50JM / 1991 – 1992) - 12V CDI GORILLA 50 - 12V CDI MONKEY 50 (Z50J) – 12V CDI DAX 50/70 (AB23 and AB26 / 1986 - 1999) – JAZZ 50 – MAGNA 50 – C100 BIZ (1998) – CD70C (1983) - CD100SS (1991) – FUTURE 110 (1999) - ASTREA STAR (1986) – ASTREA SUPRA-X (1999) – CUB100EX (1988) – EX5 (1987) – EX5 CLASS1 (1999) - 12V CDI C50 / C70 / C90.

(These HONDA bikes can also install the engine, but need a optional CDI Adaptor when using the racing engine):

BENLY CL50 (1968) – BENLY CS90 (1964) – BENLY SS50 (1967) - C50 – C65 - C70 – C90 – CD50 – CD70 – CD90 - CL50 - CL70 - CT50 – CT90 – CT110 – DAX 50/70 (ST50 – ST70 – CT70 / 1969 - 1985) – DAX CHOPPER (ST70M / 1979) - MIGHTY DAX 90 (ST90) – MONKEY 50 (Z50A) - MONKEY 50 (Z50M / 1967) - MONKEY 50 (Z50Z / 1970)- MONKEY 50 (Z50J / 1974 - ) - MONKEY GORILLA (Z50J-III / 1978 - ) – MOTRA (CT50J / 1982) - S65 - S90 - SS50 – SL50/70 –

HONDA TRIKE: ATC70** –ATC90**
HONDA ATV: FOURTRAX 90 (TRX70) ** - SPORTRAX 90 (TRX90) **
**These Racing Engines will fit without a problem but have for the Trike and ATV no reverse gear…

http://us.my.alibaba.com/img/product/10/74/24/46/107424463.jpg?1254479926000

price? will it fit on suzuki, yamaha and kawasaki chassis? what about the spare part? what brand are compatible with it? is it hand clutch or auto clutch?

price?

The price is 43.000THB (exclusive the V.A.T. from your country)

will it fit on suzuki, yamaha and kawasaki chassis?

As you can see in the detailed description, it will not fit on Suzuki, Yamaha or Kawasaki Chassis.

what about the spare part?

All spare parts are available.

what brand are compatible with it?

You can take a look for the motorcycle Brands and types that are compatible with the engine below the message.

is it hand clutch or auto clutch?

It have, as it says, a new 6-Disc clutch and at the clutch lever arm you can see that it is a manual clutch (hand clutch).
The clutch is designed for racing use, so that, if you go flat with your bike, you can kickstart the engine at any gear very fast, you don't have to search for the neutral position, just take a gear, pull the clutch lever in and kickstart the engine.

It's the same type of clutch like Takegawa, in that difference that you can't start a Takegawa clutch at any gear and that Takegawa have most of the time a 5-disk clutch while this one is standard a 6-disk clutch.
(Takegawa is also available optional with a 6-disk clutch...)

The engine comes together with with a external oil filter because it have no oil spinner at the crankshaft.

is it fit on EM-100?

60,000.00+ pesos add 12% VAT?

correct me po if I am wrong

Good to know na meron neto hehehe mukang maganda siya d ka na bibili ng 150cc na mc hehehe

grabe ang mahaL!

benta ko nalng motor ko tapos bili nalang ako 150cc! :eek:

43,000 Thai Baht = 61,048.9 Philippine Peso

what a rip off... :o

May warranty ba yan??

how many gears does it have,
does the tranny is sport type(1dwn, 3up or 4up)
or rotary type(all down)
is it based on honda nice engine?
thanks

This is one hell a of kick ass engine! up for yuminashi engines.... I really like the 4 valves!

43,000 Thai Baht = 61,048.9 Philippine Peso

what a rip off... :o

Well..., I don't know if it is such a rip off...

Kitaco sells a 160cc kit, with the 4-valve head, a cylinder with piston and a crankshaft.
The price for that set is 198.450JPY = 103,948.42 Philippine Peso

http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/@0_mall/seed/cabinet/b040528/080730307.jpg

I am always willing to inform people, so should I look for you how much a complete 6-Disk Clutch set, a D/C Outer Rotor Ignition kit a 4-speed gear box set a carburetor with manifold set and big oil cooler set cost?...

Then you still have to buy the crankcases and all other small parts of course...

It might be a bood idea to leave it to everybody's own opinion if something is or don't is a rip off or not...

Oh and if you are interested in that 103,948 Peso Kitaco 4-Valve 160cc upgrade kit, this guy give you a nice discount, it only cost you 180.000JPY or 94,353 Philippine Peso for that cylinderkit with head and crankshaft then: http://item.rakuten.co.jp/seed/080730307/

60,000.00+ pesos add 12% VAT?

correct me po if I am wrong

Good to know na meron neto hehehe mukang maganda siya d ka na bibili ng 150cc na mc hehehe

No you are not wrong and in Europe they have to pay 21% on top of those 60,000.00 pesos...

If this engine is to expensive for you, then please take the 170cc 2-Valve engine then...

The price quotation from this one is 32.650THB or 45,853.29 Philippine pesos.

It's about the same engine, but it don't have the same bore and stroke and it don't have the 4-Valve head with the Nicasil cylinder.
It's a 2-Valve 170cc with alloy cylinder and metal sleeve.

I give you the details:

http://us.my.alibaba.com/img/product/10/72/87/77/107287779.jpg?1253529136000

Product Name: HK170R-STD K0

Listing Description: New Yuminashi 6-Disc Clutch 170cc Racing Engine with STD-Head.

Detailed Description:

HK170R-STD K0
Ccm: 170cc
Bore 60mm x Stroke 60mm
Cylinder: Aluminium 60mm (KSR110 model)
Piston: 60mm Flat piston
Cylinderhead: STD-Head (KSR type of head)
Valves: 2-Valves STD 28/24mm valves
Carburetor: 28mm
Ignition: D/C Outer rotor (500gr.) racing ignition with light coil.
Clutch: New 6-Disk Clutch
Crankcases: Reinforced
Gearbox: STD Gearbox on Needle Bearings.
Oil Filter: External Oil Filter, our engines don't use the old type oil spinners.
Kickstarter Axle: Reinforced by 12%
Cooling: Oil Cooler

The engines are complete with a big size oil cooler, kickstarter, gear change pedal, metal weaved oil cooler hoses, external oil filter and all electrics.

It fit's also on all the bikes who can install a Wave110 engine...

is it fit on EM-100?

Well, it's dangerous to say someting about this because at first sight, it might fit, but we never tried this before so we can't confirm this for sure...

That's also the case with the new 2009 models from the Wave110.
At first sight you would think that it fit, but from this one we know for sure that it don't fit.
(All Wave110 models before 2009 are fine to install, no problem)

We also know that it work on the Lifan and other Wave100 or 110 based bikes from China...

If you want to know if it would fit on your EM100, then take 2 empty crankcases from a Wave100 or 110 and see if you can bolt these two empty crankcases in to your bike.

If this is the case, then you can bolt in the YUMINASHI 170cc, 172cc or 183cc engine in your bike for sure...

The price is good for a complete engine set.

Do you know the power output of this engine? HP and Torque?

nice engine! subscribing... :clap:

how about the engine no.?

There is also a new 183cc SPL engine out with the 64mm high pressure piston and the SPL-Head (31mm intake valve - 27mm exhaust valve) and a other gear box as the STD engines...

http://www.uploader.be/output/1254791096.jpg

ayus yung nasa picture ah... nakahonda wave lang tatlo pa ang sakay puro mga batang babae pa tapos kayang sumibak ng mga bigbikes.... angas talaga cbr ba yung mga bike bikes na yan? hindi kaya lumipad yung honda wave kung ganitong klase ng makina ang esasalpak tapos i-isang tao lang ang sakay? astig pa nung mga bata di nagsusuot nang helmet.. hahahaha...

There is also a new 183cc SPL engine out with the 64mm high pressure piston and the SPL-Head (31mm intake valve - 27mm exhaust valve) and a other gear box as the STD engines...

http://www.uploader.be/output/1254791096.jpg

he he he ganun ba kabilis...astig ahh...:eek::eek:

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Product Details:

Brand Name: YUMINASHI
Produced by: MASATO CO., LTD.
Model Number: HK172R-ST4 K0
172CC 4-VALVES

Listing Description: New 4-Valve Nicasil 172cc Racing engine with 6-Disc Clutch

Detailled Description:

HK172R-STD K0
Ccm: 172cc
Bore 62mm x Stroke 57mm
Cylinder: Nicasil 62mm (KSR110 model)
Piston: 62mm Flat piston
Cylinderhead: 4-Valve ST4-Head (KSR type of head)
Valves: 4-Valves ( Inlet valve 21mm x 2 / Exhaust valve 18.5mm x 2 )
Carburetor: 28mm
Ignition: Outer rotor D/C racing ignition with light coil and special 500gr magneto.
Clutch: New 6-Disk Clutch
Crankcases: Reinforced
Gearbox: STD Gearbox on Needle Bearings.
Oil Filter: External Oil Filter, our engines don't use the old type oil spinners.
Kickstarter Axle: Reinforced by 12% (Kawasaki KR150 Axle)
Cooling: Oil Cooler

The engines are complete with Carburetor, Intake Pipe, Oil Cooler, Kickstarter, Gear Change Pedal, Metal Weaved Oil Cooler Hose, External Oil Filter and all Electrics.

These 4-Valve engines fit on:

TIGER MOTORCYCLE:

ROCKET BOY 110 – ROCKET BOY 135 – KIKASS 125 – KIKASS 135 – MATRIX 125 - CX125 – SMART CX125 - CX135 SUPER MOTARD – JOKER 120 – JOKER 125

MOMOS:

MOMOS TIGRIS 115S - MOMOS FORZA 135 - MOMOS PANTERA CX135

SACHS BIKES:

MADASS 50 – MADASS 125 – MADASS 135

HONDA:

XR50R – XR70R – CRF50F – CRF70F - WAVE100 (All) – WAVE110 (All) – SOLO (2003) - NICE110 (ZN110 – ZN110C ) – NICE110 U-BOX (ZN110T) – 12V CDI BENLY CL50 – LITTLE CUB 50 - MONKEY R (Z50JRH - 1987) – MONKEY RT (Z50JRJ / 1987 - 1988) – ZB50 (1987) – MONKEY BAJA (Z50JM / 1991 – 1992) - 12V CDI GORILLA 50 - 12V CDI MONKEY 50 (Z50J) – 12V CDI DAX 50/70 (AB23 and AB26 / 1986 - 1999) – JAZZ 50 – MAGNA 50 – C100 BIZ (1998) – CD70C (1983) - CD100SS (1991) – FUTURE 110 (1999) - ASTREA STAR (1986) – ASTREA SUPRA-X (1999) – CUB100EX (1988) – EX5 (1987) – EX5 CLASS1 (1999) - 12V CDI C50 / C70 / C90.

(These HONDA bikes can also install the engine, but need a optional CDI Adaptor when using the racing engine):

BENLY CL50 (1968) – BENLY CS90 (1964) – BENLY SS50 (1967) - C50 – C65 - C70 – C90 – CD50 – CD70 – CD90 - CL50 - CL70 - CT50 – CT90 – CT110 – DAX 50/70 (ST50 – ST70 – CT70 / 1969 - 1985) – DAX CHOPPER (ST70M / 1979) - MIGHTY DAX 90 (ST90) – MONKEY 50 (Z50A) - MONKEY 50 (Z50M / 1967) - MONKEY 50 (Z50Z / 1970)- MONKEY 50 (Z50J / 1974 - ) - MONKEY GORILLA (Z50J-III / 1978 - ) – MOTRA (CT50J / 1982) - S65 - S90 - SS50 – SL50/70 –

HONDA TRIKE: ATC70** –ATC90**
HONDA ATV: FOURTRAX 90 (TRX70) ** - SPORTRAX 90 (TRX90) **
**These Racing Engines will fit without a problem but have for the Trike and ATV no reverse gear…

http://us.my.alibaba.com/img/product/10/74/24/46/107424463.jpg?1254479926000

will it be ok to use this in a daily basis?

will it be ok to use this in a daily basis?

Yes, no problem...

up for this engine.....can't wait to see this in our race track....

I like the engine. Knowing its good for everyday use.
So from what I understand, this doesn't have an electric starter, based on the picture shown, right?
And, you will need to have your engine number changed on the registration certificate?
Last thing is, how many kilometers it can go on a liter?
Mode of payment? PM please.

im just really kind of confused... the way i look at it, it really looks like a KSR engine... but it doesnt fit on a kawasaki??? is the photo just a reference photo or its the same engine that you are talking about?


and another thing. on the engine specs it says, KSR model. but again it doesnt fit on a KSR/kawasaki?


im sorry it just really confuses me... i know some kawasaki owners here looking into this... so i hope there is a clear explanation. :)

im just really kind of confused... the way i look at it, it really looks like a KSR engine... but it doesnt fit on a kawasaki??? is the photo just a reference photo or its the same engine that you are talking about?


and another thing. on the engine specs it says, KSR model. but again it doesnt fit on a KSR/kawasaki?


im sorry it just really confuses me... i know some kawasaki owners here looking into this... so i hope there is a clear explanation. :)

Well, did you take a good look already to the crankcases from a KSR how it looks like?... :-)

I agree that if you look to the cylinderhead and to the cylinder, that this could give a reason to be confused.

But if you look to the crankcase from the KSR like on this picture here and to the crankcases from the YUMINASHI engines, then I think that it's clear that we can't talk about the same engine and/or that it perhaps should fit in a frame from a KSR.

http://www.crf50shop.com/images/410-KLX-1200_A_Large.jpg?osCsid=880fc8

If you look to the crankcases from a Honda Nice110 or Honda Wave110 like the picture below, then you see right away that the YUMINASHI engines are actually made based on that type of engine and not on the KSR, so that these YUMINASHI engines will fit in all frames that can have a Wave110 or Nice110 engine...

http://www.monkey-biker.net/shop/images/uploads/Honda%20Nice%20New.jpg

So is this YUMINASHI engine a Honda engine?... No it's not...
Is this engines a KAWASAKI engine then?... Same answer, no it's not.

It's a mix of both actually...

The bottom part is Honda Wave110 and what is special that is taht the crankcases are made a little bit wider at the base from the cylinder so that the base who is wider from the KSR can fit on these modified Honda Wave110 crankcases who would be original from Honda to small, it never would fit...

If you take a good look to the picture from the YUMINASHI 170cc engine below, then you can see between the ignition and the base from the cylinder that wider piece over there at the crankcase that isn't normally there with a Honda Wave.

http://us.my.alibaba.com/img/product/10/72/87/77/107287779.jpg?1253529136000

And the cylinder and cylinderhead from that engine, will it fit on a KSR?...

Sure it will!

The cylinder, the piston, the gaskets, the cylinderhead you can bolt on everything on a original KSR, only with the YUMINASHI engine, they have modified the angle on the head where you screw the manifold on so that it would fit with a Honda manifold and not with a Kawasaki manifold.

Because of the strange shape from the kawasaki crankcases, the manifold from the KSR makes some strange curves to fit with that strange shape of crankcases.

So with a KSR you need to install the manifold not horizontal on the head, but on a angle.

Also the exhaust from a Honda is a bit different, so that this also have been modified to fit with a honda Exhaust, and not with a Kawasaki.

So the photo that you see, is a real photo from a real engine that looks like like it is and how you will receive it to install on your bike.

It's just a mix from both, 50% HONDA based and 50% KSR based...

I hope that this small explanation could shine a clear light on the technical details from this engine so that the people who are confused have a better idea from how it's made...

Greetings,

Reggy

astig!!! Up for yuminashi!!

ilan kaya HP niyan. pwede na sa 60k yan complete set/engine na. tapos made in japan pa yata.

swerte ng mga naka Honda XRM and Wave. ito na pagkakataon nyo. parang gusto ko bumili ng 2nd hand na XRM ah :evil:

Well, did you take a good look already to the crankcases from a KSR how it looks like?... :-)

I agree that if you look to the cylinderhead and to the cylinder, that this could give a reason to be confused.

But if you look to the crankcase from the KSR like on this picture here and to the crankcases from the YUMINASHI engines, then I think that it's clear that we can't talk about the same engine and/or that it perhaps should fit in a frame from a KSR.

http://www.crf50shop.com/images/410-KLX-1200_A_Large.jpg?osCsid=880fc8

If you look to the crankcases from a Honda Nice110 or Honda Wave110 like the picture below, then you see right away that the YUMINASHI engines are actually made based on that type of engine and not on the KSR, so that these YUMINASHI engines will fit in all frames that can have a Wave110 or Nice110 engine...

http://www.monkey-biker.net/shop/images/uploads/Honda%20Nice%20New.jpg

So is this YUMINASHI engine a Honda engine?... No it's not...
Is this engines a KAWASAKI engine then?... Same answer, no it's not.

It's a mix of both actually...

The bottom part is Honda Wave110 and what is special that is taht the crankcases are made a little bit wider at the base from the cylinder so that the base who is wider from the KSR can fit on these modified Honda Wave110 crankcases who would be original from Honda to small, it never would fit...

If you take a good look to the picture from the YUMINASHI 170cc engine below, then you can see between the ignition and the base from the cylinder that wider piece over there at the crankcase that isn't normally there with a Honda Wave.

http://us.my.alibaba.com/img/product/10/72/87/77/107287779.jpg?1253529136000

And the cylinder and cylinderhead from that engine, will it fit on a KSR?...

Sure it will!

The cylinder, the piston, the gaskets, the cylinderhead you can bolt on everything on a original KSR, only with the YUMINASHI engine, they have modified the angle on the head where you screw the manifold on so that it would fit with a Honda manifold and not with a Kawasaki manifold.

Because of the strange shape from the kawasaki crankcases, the manifold from the KSR makes some strange curves to fit with that strange shape of crankcases.

So with a KSR you need to install the manifold not horizontal on the head, but on a angle.

Also the exhaust from a Honda is a bit different, so that this also have been modified to fit with a honda Exhaust, and not with a Kawasaki.

So the photo that you see, is a real photo from a real engine that looks like like it is and how you will receive it to install on your bike.

It's just a mix from both, 50% HONDA based and 50% KSR based...

I hope that this small explanation could shine a clear light on the technical details from this engine so that the people who are confused have a better idea from how it's made...

Greetings,

Reggy


ok! got it. tnx. ;)

my main concern about this engine would be the gear box. Very nice horse power! up!

grabeh..nakakapang laway toh.. UP..UP!!! sana may mag regalo sakin nito sa pasko..hihi..

given that the cylinder and the cylinder head would fit on original KSR, and i have a kawasaki aura, would it be possible if its just the cylinder and cylinder head (with 4 valves) that i would order? how much would it be?

it includes all part of the cylinder head right? (rocker arm, camshaft, etc.)

please avise the price of the above and the mode of payment.

thanks!

Any updates? Or anyone who already purchased this engine?

does it fit in my ub xrm ds 125..if i will buy it how can i be sure that it will work effectively in my MC..and do you have a shop so that if i want to install that complete engine set to my MC..?

does it fit in my ub xrm ds 125..if i will buy it how can i be sure that it will work effectively in my MC..and do you have a shop so that if i want to install that complete engine set to my MC..?

Its an import paps. When the engine arrives, you'll be the one to install it. Or, get a good mechanic who can install it. If you have the same engine hanger/chassis on your XRM125DS and the XRM110, it should fit I think...Backread will help.

tempting hehehe.

who can i contact regarding further inquiries for yuminashi engines?

tempting hehehe.

who can i contact regarding further inquiries for yuminashi engines?

Contact TS papa. Madali kausap yan. Hehehe..

sir any demo videos of this engine in action?:banana:

There is also a new 183cc SPL engine out with the 64mm high pressure piston and the SPL-Head (31mm intake valve - 27mm exhaust valve) and a other gear box as the STD engines...

http://www.uploader.be/output/1254791096.jpg



well nakaloko ung picture more on ad lang and photoshop done
dapat sana naag wawave ung hair nung mga gurls and holding each other so tight para kapanipaniwala,..


back to topic me nakapag try naba nito comments naman

Where can I order this engine? Payment options? Made in? Warranty?

TS meron bang pang yamaha sniper???

ok ung engine sarap gamitin nyan sigurado...hehe

TS pwede kaya sa honda icon yan boss? san rin pwede bumili nyan engine na yan?

dear everybody i'm new on this forum.i'm from pakistan.i'll only understand english and urdu so please any body tell that i'll want this 10 engines what was the minimum price of this engine and tell me who was sent me this engines to pakistan.tell me who's the man to contact for this engine?
i like and love this engine very much and in our country we not have a 1 engine of this company so please kindly help i'll very thankfull to you.
i'm a racer in pakistan if i'll get this engine, i have made my dreams to be the racing king please please dont ignore me help me.
my www.facebook.com name is zeeshan abbasi and email adress is ziddi_ladla@hotmail.com please add me and solve my problem.

dear everybody i'm new on this forum.i'm from pakistan.i'll only understand english and urdu so please any body tell that i'll want this 10 engines what was the minimum price of this engine and tell me who was sent me this engines to pakistan.tell me who's the man to contact for this engine?
i like and love this engine very much and in our country we not have a 1 engine of this company so please kindly help i'll very thankfull to you.
i'm a racer in pakistan if i'll get this engine, i have made my dreams to be the racing king please please dont ignore me help me.
my www.facebook.com name is zeeshan abbasi and email adress is ziddi_ladla@hotmail.com please add me and solve my problem.

I suggest you email the thread starter.

ilang cc to'ng yuminashi?

anyway will this fit in the x1r? hahhahah

crazyyyy

nakakainggit naman ung mga naka yuminashi engine.. 18000 yen daw un sa japan sabi ng pinsan ko na rider at 3 years na sa japan. kanu sa php un?

nakakainggit naman ung mga naka yuminashi engine.. 18000 yen daw un sa japan sabi ng pinsan ko na rider at 3 years na sa japan. kanu sa php un?

60K yan in peso papa. plus shipping and LSMPI

Wow Ganda to ah, Pag ipunan ko to, Presyo very reasonable with all those features!:clap::*

up for this engine.....can't wait to see this in our race track....

Avail nba d2 yn

nakakainggit naman ung mga naka yuminashi engine.. 18000 yen daw un sa japan sabi ng pinsan ko na rider at 3 years na sa japan. kanu sa php un?

ang mura naman nyan 9k php lang kung icoconvert :D

pero kung 60k php dapat price nyan eh 120000 yen

ang mura naman nyan 9k php lang kung icoconvert :D

pero kung 60k php dapat price nyan eh 120000 yen

9k lng yan hoho astig kht 10k kunin q na hehe..san po my bilihan ng makina ng xrm rs d2