Mga sir gaanu ba katagal palitan ang helmet?...totoo bang may expiration mga ito

Sa akin lang ha? Sa mahal ng helmets ngayon, kahit luma na, ginagamit ko pa rin. Mabuti pa rin sa wala.

Yung isang helmet ko, 19 years old na. Deym kung ipagpapalit ko yang lucky helmet ko habang hindi pa siya nagkakapira-piraso..

Sa akin lang ha? Sa mahal ng helmets ngayon, kahit luma na, ginagamit ko pa rin. Mabuti pa rin sa wala.

ganun po ba totoo bang pag luma na yung helmet useless na din sir??

http://www.eastcoastmarc.org/art_helmetlife.htm

this might be a good read :D

ako nagpalit na ko ng HJC ko after 3 years... nasira na kasi yung locking mechanism ng visor so natatanggal na yung visor nya pag inangat...

Sa manual ng helmet ko says that 3 to 5 years shelf life.

If dropped or was in an accident, replace it right away.

every crash, pwede mo daw pa check kung pwede pa gamitin (ewan ko lang kung sino marunong tumingin), kaso most likely sabihan ka rin nun para makabenta. kaso wala naman masama since compromise na yung safety if ganun nga nangyari.

pag di na snug fit yung helmet, palitan na rin.

pag meron ka nakitang physical deterioration sa loob ng helm.

I used my helmet for a year not knowing mali pala fit sa akin, very loose. I replaced it right away.

Yup tama, minsan through the years lumuluwag na helmet, once you feel na its loose na, replace it. Wearing a loose helmet, ill fitting helmet is as dangerous as not wearing one.

Hmmm, if it was in a crash, I'd rather not use it anymore, they are designed for ONE crash only as per manual. Plus I do not want to compromise my safety, the integrity of the helmet might not be okay anymore after a crash, mapa mild or wild.

ganun po ba totoo bang pag luma na yung helmet useless na din sir??

Siguro sa safety standpoint. pero hindi naman totally useless kung pampa-iwas huli ng pulis pa rin, diba? :D

5 yrs na yung isa kong helmet pero bihira ko naman gamitin puro gasgs lang naman hindi pa nababagsak, ang mahal din kase ng helmet kesa itapon ko gamit ko pa rin pamasok sa office para pwede ko iwan sa motor kahit nakawin hindi masakit sa loob

3-5 yrs lang tumatagal ang helmet...pero parang sayang naman kung papalitan nyu kaagad

3 to 5 years nga ang standard pero depende na sa atin kung ano gagawin natin sa helmet. Sabi nga nila ulo natin yan di kanila. :)

ganun po ba totoo bang pag luma na yung helmet useless na din sir??

alam mo yung Polystyrene (foam) sa loob that is suppose to take the brunt of the impact?
napipipi yun o deforms with use.....

5 yrs (max) palit ako, me sira o wala...

it was said, 5 years is enough... you must buy your new helmet. but experts says it is a form of marketing.if you read the manual in an original helmet (one minor or major crash is enough to replace your helmet..


helmet depreciation is 5 years- bakbakang byahe (araw2x)
if minsan lang gmaitin like my cousin gngmit ung caberg n helmet once a month lang.. i think its ok na to use it more than 5 years, maybe up to 10 years..

Their reason is the materials daw become brittle every year and might compromise the safety. Let's ask the myth busters to take a look at this haha. If I remember a friend who has these original release Air Jordans and he never used them that much. They were stored for more than five years and then he decided to use them in a pick up game. Viola! They crumbled into pieces hehe. Na pulbos ang soles due to becoming brittle over the year. This applies to the foam used in our helmets as far as I know.

You might not use your helmet that much but the materials degrade every year.

And besides, knowing the people here, they are fond of helmets so that five years period might even be too long for them :s

panu kung na accident ka tpos konti tama lang nang helmet sa crash mo palit na ba kaagad yun kahit wala sira or anu mag gas gas?

ok lang mapamahal sa helmet.
ang helmet napapalitan, yung ulo walang spare parts sa caloocan o taytay :D


kaso gusto ko rin yung myth busters, sana nga meron magtry :D

ang myth ko naman, yung helmet kasi natin, di naman gawa sa metal, kaya di yan elastic, so baka maging brittle yan pag nagtagal (ulan, araw, ulan, araw)

panu kung na accident ka tpos konti tama lang nang helmet sa crash mo palit na ba kaagad yun kahit wala sira or anu mag gas gas?

Again, its your call but the manual of original helmets state that helmets are made and design for ONE crash only, it didnt say its a mild or wild crash because its subjective so they stated "crash".

I believe that they do this to avoid lawsuits. If they stated that a helmet is still good to go after a couple of spills then they might be in a lot of trouble. Remember after a crash, god knows how much damage the helmet too inside that we cannot see.

Anything the manufacturer puts in the manual is still subject to our decisions. Its not like we do not have a choice or anything. They are just there to advice and not to direct.

Chyll - another factor is the way you use your helmet or the way you store it. Dati nag papark ako sa open and iniiwan ko lang yun helmet ko, under the sun minsan under the rain. May nag sabi sa akin na maawa naman daw ako sa helmet ko dahil mapapadali daw buhay nun. I was a newbie then and I didnt know a lot. So I read articles about helmets and there I learned nga the things I know today. I am no expert but at least I know a little haha.

Kung mag ingat ka eh tatagal talaga life nyang helmet mo, pero kung para kang delivery boy ng Mcdo kung mag treat ng helmet mo e dont expect much kapag nag crash ka gamit yun helmet.

eh yung sa delivery boy naman (kahit McDo or typical LPG delivery boy) eh for compliance lang sa batas yun.

kaya nagulat ako nung nakakita ako ng LPG delivery boy na naka Modular Spyder helm.


another factor is the way you use your helmet or the way you store it. Dati nag papark ako sa open and iniiwan ko lang yun helmet ko, under the sun minsan under the rain. May nag sabi sa akin na maawa naman daw ako sa helmet ko dahil mapapadali daw buhay nun. I was a newbie then and I didnt know a lot. So I read articles about helmets and there I learned nga the things I know today. I am no expert but at least I know a little haha.
yup di naman tayo expert.

kaso sabi kasi dati ng chem prof ko, yung metal yung elastic na element, while rubber/plastic are not

ang example pa nga eh.

ano mas elastic, goma o metal?
sagot namin lahat, goma! (proud pa)
sagot nya, pag yun tanong ko eh may grade, lahat kayo bagsak!.

pag ang goma daw na expose sa high heat, natutunaw, pag pinalamig mo, di na pwede ibalik sa dating itsura
while yung mga metals daw, pag na expose sa high heat, pwede lumambot, kaso pag lumamig eh matibay pa rin.

haha oonga no? May point ang chem teacher nyo. :)

So yun, i hope ma kuha ng mga makakabasa nito ang point natin pero yun nga nasa kanila pa din naman kung sundin o hindi. :)

eh yung sa delivery boy naman (kahit McDo or typical LPG delivery boy) eh for compliance lang sa batas yun.

kaya nagulat ako nung nakakita ako ng LPG delivery boy na naka Modular Spyder helm.



yup di naman tayo expert.

kaso sabi kasi dati ng chem prof ko, yung metal yung elastic na element, while rubber/plastic are not

ang example pa nga eh.

ano mas elastic, goma o metal?
sagot namin lahat, goma! (proud pa)
sagot nya, pag yun tanong ko eh may grade, lahat kayo bagsak!.

pag ang goma daw na expose sa high heat, natutunaw, pag pinalamig mo, di na pwede ibalik sa dating itsura
while yung mga metals daw, pag na expose sa high heat, pwede lumambot, kaso pag lumamig eh matibay pa rin.

oo nga noh kasi kahit matunaw ang metal.....,metal padin sya disregard kahit anu shape or size nya unlike goma...tunaw na tlga sya hindi na sya maging elastic

Depende sa helmet at depende sa gumagamit ng helmet.

Arai has 5 years warranty on every helmet that they sell in the States.

Pero ang pinaka gusto ko sa Arai is yung Customer Service nila,pag-nasira ang parts ng helmet papalitan nila ng libre,parts & labor.

Kaya naman for 11 consecutive years ay number 1 ang Arai pag-dating sa Customer Service.

Hindi katulad ng ibang brand pag na i benta na sa Customer ang helmet,wala ng pakialam,in short basta makabenta lang ng helmet.:o,

Pero sa hirap ng buhay sa mga panahon ngayon at sa hirap kumita ng pera,konti lang ang bumibili ng Arai.

O.T

@ Sir MSG,Nakabili ka na ng helmet mo ? If i remember you were planning to buy HJC ? or KBC ? Am i right ?

Geemax - yes I got a HJC FS 15. Indeed Arai is a nice brand but its not for everyone. Its hard to part ways with a 400 dollar helmet even after five years. That's where HJC comes in. :s

depende po kung babad ito sa araw then mauulanan parang kotse nag fafade din kulay kung laging nasa arawan, meron pong expiration mga helmets usually mga 3yrs up tapos laging gamit nag popowder na yung mga foam sa loob, mas ok kung dun kna sa kilalang brand and alam mong safe ang ulo mo.. kahit mahal ang helmet kung mas mahal mo naman ulo mo mas ok:clap:

kung everyday mo ginagamit ang helmet, I think kung papalitan mo after 3 or 5 years ay sulit na din kesa naman na sa huli mo na malaman na nasayang yung panghihinayang sa pagpalit ng bagong helmet. opinion ko lang po.

Personally, I would get rid of my helmet after three to five years depending upon the abuse it took...salts,heat,humidity,falling off the bike:)...Lets not forget that the helmet is the only protection we have (for our head) in case of a bad spill...or any fall for that matter.

yung arai ko alagang alaga ko pagkagamit ko punas tapos nilalagay ko agad sa helmet bag

You might not use your helmet that much but the materials degrade every year.

And besides, knowing the people here, they are fond of helmets so that five years period might even be too long for them :s


tama naman di ba?at talagang delikado po ito para sa ulo natin. teka what if we compute the price of a helmet against the times we are using it, ordinary priced helmets ranged from 700 to at least 2000 pesos, kung everyday mo gamit, parang halos piso lang araw-araw ang gastos mo safe pa ang ulo mo. e pano kung sa bawat pag-gamit mo, maghulog ka ng another piso sa alkansya e di after 3 years me pambili ka na ulit ng helmet di ba? ako my spyder helmet is 2 years old, although sa outer appearance e mukhang bago pa, sa loob medyo maluwag na rin.so i am planning to buy a new one na, let's not loose our heads 'ika nga hehe :)

sabagay mas importante tlga ang ulo kesa sa helmet heheh kaya kung may budget lang ako kahit yun pinaka maganda helmet bibilin ko eh

sabagay mas importante tlga ang ulo kesa sa helmet heheh kaya kung may budget lang ako kahit yun pinaka maganda helmet bibilin ko eh

Pinaka maganda is subjective and pinaka mahal naman doesnt always mean better. :clap:

I heard the story of a man at Motoworld who owns a freaking BMW touring bike and crashed using his GDR from Quiapo helmet and he survived. Believe me, I've seen the helmet and its really damaged alright, but he still uses it...even after purchasing twenty plus thousand pesos stuff from Motoworld, he didnt buy a new helmet, NOT even one half faced Zeus helmet that could cost him 2000 pesos. :clap: I personally think he's crazy :eek:

Funny eh? As I've said, these manufacturer claims are just suggestions, ride with your helmet at your own risk. :)

Mga Riders :

Ang ganda naman ng mga sharing nyo sa helmets. I bought a brand new , old model SHOEI helmet 2months ago. Z-4 model yan. I ddint know it was that old but when I got back....the label inside stated 2002. ok pa ba ito? BRAND NEW naman. good fit parin naman. reputable yamaha dealer ito.

enjoy

Mga Riders :

Ang ganda naman ng mga sharing nyo sa helmets. I bought a brand new , old model SHOEI helmet 2months ago. Z-4 model yan. I ddint know it was that old but when I got back....the label inside stated 2002. ok pa ba ito? BRAND NEW naman. good fit parin naman. reputable yamaha dealer ito.

enjoy

As discussed sir through the years yun loob nyan, yun mga foam or whatever they call the material that will absorb the impact will deteriorate used or not.

Para bang ang tao, once we were born we start to die slowly hehe.

But there are some who say the expiration clock ticks once its used or displayed. We will never know but thats technically a seven year old helmet if it was manufactured way back 2002...college pa ako nun ah hehe.

Anyway its your call pa din sir, we are not helmet experts to determine that, we just choose to believe some claims hehe. Kasi naalala ko talaga shoes ng barkada ko. Well kept for more than five years, they looked really new then when he decided to use them in a basketball game...kaboom, tangal swelas sabay pulbos pa ang cushioning hehe.

Pinaka maganda is subjective and pinaka mahal naman doesnt always mean better. :clap:

I heard the story of a man at Motoworld who owns a freaking BMW touring bike and crashed using his GDR from Quiapo helmet and he survived. Believe me, I've seen the helmet and its really damaged alright, but he still uses it...even after purchasing twenty plus thousand pesos stuff from Motoworld, he didnt buy a new helmet, NOT even one half faced Zeus helmet that could cost him 2000 pesos. :clap: I personally think he's crazy :eek:

Funny eh? As I've said, these manufacturer claims are just suggestions, ride with your helmet at your own risk. :)

hindi kaya sir ....luck has something to do with it??

I've been a shoe fanatic for a long time sir...its almost certain na kapag ang sapatos tinago mo ng matagal then use it bigla sa tulad ng basketball or running...kaboom talaga kasi nag brittle na ang materials, glue is not that good anymore, kumbaga expired na.

Some say, its the same with the foam used sa helmet, some say hindi, pero para sa peace of mind ko eh I'd rather use a relatively new helmet. Sabi ko nga its just my belief, doesnt mean I am right. :D

Para bang ang tao, once we were born we start to die slowly hehe.
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sir once we are born we develop muna to our full capacity then we we are fully developed and reach our limit/maturity then we start to die. hindi po once we are born then we start to die agad.

sir once we are born we develop muna to our full capacity then we we are fully developed and reach our limit/maturity then we start to die. hindi po once we are born then we start to die agad.

Hehe OT sir. :D Di naman literal ang meaning ko, parang point ko lang eh pag kagawa ng helmet time ticks na daw kasi na expose na mga materials. Parang tao pag ka panganak nag simula na ma ubos oras natin sa mundo :O

I just heard it sa isang line sa isang movie na pinapanood ko haha.

Mga sir gaanu ba katagal palitan ang helmet?...totoo bang may expiration mga ito

you might find this interesting about helmets...
Motorcycle Helmet performance:
http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/gearbox/motorcycle_helmet_review/index.html

sa mahal kasi nang helmet ngayun nakaka hinayang palitan kaagad kahit wala naman visible na sira

As discussed sir through the years yun loob nyan, yun mga foam or whatever they call the material that will absorb the impact will deteriorate used or not.

Para bang ang tao, once we were born we start to die slowly hehe.

But there are some who say the expiration clock ticks once its used or displayed. We will never know but thats technically a seven year old helmet if it was manufactured way back 2002...college pa ako nun ah hehe.

Anyway its your call pa din sir, we are not helmet experts to determine that, we just choose to believe some claims hehe. Kasi naalala ko talaga shoes ng barkada ko. Well kept for more than five years, they looked really new then when he decided to use them in a basketball game...kaboom, tangal swelas sabay pulbos pa ang cushioning hehe.

Totoo, na experience ko rin ito sa mga shoes ko.

I have new basket ball shoes I think 4 times ko lang ginamit tapos hindi ko na ginamit kasi na addict na ako sa snickers and hindi na rin ako nag lalaro.. after two years naisipan kong mag jogging ayon... tumiwalag isa isa. :O

Yung helmet ko rin iba na yung foam nya kahit bihira ko rin gamitin, may pang every day kasi ako tapos may pang rides.. etc. hehe

I think kahit anong ingat natin ma de deteriorate talaga yun nga lang mas mabilis ma deteriorate yung hindi ini ingatan compared sa alagang alaga.

sa mahal kasi nang helmet ngayun nakaka hinayang palitan kaagad kahit wala naman visible na sira

Mas maganda na manghinayang ka sa helmet mo na luma na pero wala visible damage kesa mga mahal mo mang hinayang dahil wala ka na hahaha. :banana:

Again, general law of life, everything that was born into this world deteriorates then it expires. Ikaw nga eh lahat may katapusan and depende na yan sa kung ano ang pinag uusapan. As for helmets generally five years daw so it's up to us na talaga to decide for ourselves.

That is why I am thankful na ng panahon na nag motor ako magaganda na gawa ng HJC, KBC and other helmets that are SURELY DOT / SNELL certified without burning my pockets.

But still I dream of buying Arai's and Shoei's one day. :o

Mas maganda na manghinayang ka sa helmet mo na luma na pero wala visible damage kesa mga mahal mo mang hinayang dahil wala ka na hahaha. :banana:

Again, general law of life, everything that was born into this world deteriorates then it expires. Ikaw nga eh lahat may katapusan and depende na yan sa kung ano ang pinag uusapan. As for helmets generally five years daw so it's up to us na talaga to decide for ourselves.

That is why I am thankful na ng panahon na nag motor ako magaganda na gawa ng HJC, KBC and other helmets that are SURELY DOT / SNELL certified without burning my pockets.

But still I dream of buying Arai's and Shoei's one day. :o

kaya nga sir pero kahit anu ganda nang helmet mo kahit cguro naka arai na helmet ka na sobrang ganda pero kung nasagasaan ka naman nang truck "tulad nung sa edsa" patay ka padin....kakatakot

kaya nga sir pero kahit anu ganda nang helmet mo kahit cguro naka arai na helmet ka na sobrang ganda pero kung nasagasaan ka naman nang truck "tulad nung sa edsa" patay ka padin....kakatakot

Err Iba na yun...we are talking about the helmet integrity through the years of use and how the materials inside it become brittle.

New or old, cheap or premium, kapag ganun ka gruesome ang accident you will surely die.

Mga Riders :

Ang ganda naman ng mga sharing nyo sa helmets. I bought a brand new , old model SHOEI helmet 2months ago. Z-4 model yan. I ddint know it was that old but when I got back....the label inside stated 2002. ok pa ba ito? BRAND NEW naman. good fit parin naman. reputable yamaha dealer ito.

enjoy

sir sinubukan nyu po ba ibalik sa nag benta sa inyu nang helmet??

sa akin may 4 years n AM helmet gamet ko.

sa akin may 4 years n AM helmet gamet ko.

anu po tatak nang helmet nyu sir?

5 years ang sinasabi sa mga disclaimer brochure ng mga helmets... pero para skin basta alaga at di pa naman nakakatikim ng semplang mas tatagal pa dun...

as long as you care your helmet i thing there is no limit of time because their is no expiration date that indicates in the warranty book as i know...

5 years bro....

as long as you care your helmet i thing there is no limit of time because their is no expiration date that indicates in the warranty book as i know...



From the SHOEI Site: (see line #5)


Helmet Replacement
Ultimately, the useful service life of a safety helmet is dependent on the intensity and frequency of its use. Helmet replacement is recommended even if only one of the under-mentioned points applies:

The helmet was subjected to an impact.
The comfort padding or the retention system has become loose due to heavy use or display signs of deterioration.
The synthetic foam padding displays signs of heavy use and the helmet feels too loose. Test: with the retention system fastened, the helmet turns to the side when you gently shake your head.
There are indentations in the EPS liner and/or white scratches can be seen on surfaces with black paint.
Even if none of these is applied, we, SHOEI, recommend replacement in 5 years after it's first purchased at retail.


:D

If I use the helmet atleast 4 times a week....I'd change my helmet every year.... a reasonably priced helmet...from 1,500 to 2,500 either half face or full face and with ece or dot approval will do.
If the helmet is used like 3 times a month....maybe every 3 to 4 years....this when a really nice, expensive and top brand helmet will be in order. Of course, its gotta have all the ece, dot, snell etc.... approvals in place.