San ba makakabili ng HJC Helmet? Yung marami akong pwedeng pamilian
Balak ko na kasi magpapalit ng helmet eh, and one of my option is HJC
Ano-ano ba ang mga model ng HJC Helmet at magkano ang price sa market?

Sir, sa JT Triumph, Caloocan at sa West Ave. marami po doon..

San ba makakabili ng HJC Helmet? Yung marami akong pwedeng pamilian
Balak ko na kasi magpapalit ng helmet eh, and one of my option is HJC
Ano-ano ba ang mga model ng HJC Helmet at magkano ang price sa market?

maraming model ng HJC dun sa triumph JT sa caloocan....

price range from 4k-15k

ang model po ng HJC sa aking pagkakaalam ay cs 12 - 15 ata

basta po ganun meron po dun sa triumph jt na 3kplus

maganda po dun yung may design na floral kasi po

meron daw aloy sa gitna nung layer ng helmet yun lang pho...

sir sa caloocan po marami sa 10th ave ..:o

JT triumph is the BEST! punta k n agd bro at bka maubusan k p. hehehe!!!

Sir sa JT Triumph sa 10th ave sa caloocan authorized dealer sila ng HJC helmets, ung lens ng HJC CL-14 ko dun ko nabili, marami kang pwedeng pagpilian dun...

wala ba sa motoworld nito? sa JT Triump lang ba?

hirap kasi, di ko alam pano makakapunta ng caloocan. baka naman meron pang iba somewhere.

wala ba sa motoworld nito? sa JT Triump lang ba?

hirap kasi, di ko alam pano makakapunta ng caloocan. baka naman meron pang iba somewhere.

MODs pa OT po ha.

Napaka dali pong baybayin ang 10th ave Caloocan.

Kung galing ka edsa ikot sa circle towards LRT stations (Rizal Avenue)

Kung Galing ka bulacan thru Mc arthur hiway derecho ka rin sa LRT stations (Rizal Avenue)

Kung Galing ka naman sa Cavite, Las Pinas, Paranaque area straight ahead to LRT Baclaran station thru Taft Avenue and Manila City Hall then take Mc arthur bridge down to Rizal Avenue or you can take Jones Bridge down to Jose Abad Santos ang exit nito LRT R. Papa Station.

Thanks po sa mga nagreply. Pupuntahan ko po yun. Pinag-iisipan ko kasi kung Caberg Rhyno, Zeus o HJC ang bibilhin ko eh. Available ba dun sa JT Triump yung complete Breath Guard ng HJC?

wala ba sa motoworld nito? sa JT Triump lang ba?

hirap kasi, di ko alam pano makakapunta ng caloocan. baka naman meron pang iba somewhere.

Sa mga taga south ang pinakamalapit ay yung JT Triumph sa may taft ave. Malapit lang sya sa corner ng Quirino Ave? Correct me if im wrong. Katapat nya yung AVON. Dyan ko binili CL-14 ko for 4200 pesos last year.

just curious about HJC helmets. I was trying to fit a motard or was it an off road edition in one of our local stores here. it looks beatiful (chin is chrome painted na matulis) but when i i asked the price, the attendant said: P2.2K. cheap for an HJC, di kaya? o di kaya peke ito? may DOT mark naman sa likod niya and an HJC sticker on top of the hood.

sa mga sir na marurunong kumilatis at nakakakilala sa HJC, what do you think? PEKE kaya to? or could it be that HJC is just making its product competitive in the lower-end market?

i need your opinions...:? THANKS!

ano mas maganda? zeus or HJC?

just curious about HJC helmets. I was trying to fit a motard or was it an off road edition in one of our local stores here. it looks beatiful (chin is chrome painted na matulis) but when i i asked the price, the attendant said: P2.2K. cheap for an HJC, di kaya? o di kaya peke ito? may DOT mark naman sa likod niya and an HJC sticker on top of the hood.

sa mga sir na marurunong kumilatis at nakakakilala sa HJC, what do you think? PEKE kaya to? or could it be that HJC is just making its product competitive in the lower-end market?

i need your opinions...:? THANKS!

Only JT Triumph is the exclusive distributor of HJC Helmets. Beware of others selling HJC Helmets.

One of the easiest thing to identify is the logo. Original HJC Helmets have the word "HELMETS" just below the HJC Logo.

AFIAK, HJC logos are placed on the front, left and right side part. Fakes, sometimes have logos at the back.

Another is when you look at the upper left part of the visor. It has and embossed marking of the visor model and has a certain warranty claim.

The padding of the fake is thinner compared to the original.

Try to read Mo2rista Magazine. They reviewed there the comparison between an original ang a fake.

HTH :D
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ano mas maganda? zeus or HJC?

IMO, i'll go for HJC.:clap:

just curious about HJC helmets. I was trying to fit a motard or was it an off road edition in one of our local stores here. it looks beatiful (chin is chrome painted na matulis) but when i i asked the price, the attendant said: P2.2K. cheap for an HJC, di kaya? o di kaya peke ito? may DOT mark naman sa likod niya and an HJC sticker on top of the hood.

sa mga sir na marurunong kumilatis at nakakakilala sa HJC, what do you think? PEKE kaya to? or could it be that HJC is just making its product competitive in the lower-end market?

i need your opinions...:? THANKS!

The DOT, SNELL, ECE, etc stickers on the outside shell of the helmet is easy to fake. Most of the fake helmets can copy this type of sticker and just put this on. To find out if the helmet is really DOT, SNELL, ECE etc approved, go look inside the padding of the helmet in between the shell and the pads for the authentic (w/ hologram sticker and serial number) DOT, SNELL, ECE sticker.

The CL-14 I bought at Triumph Caloocan had this authentic sticker inside...

Please correct me if I'm wrong....Thanks!

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm132/dflores19/Untitled.jpg

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm132/dflores19/IMG_3085.jpg

Para sa akin doon ako sa HJC..

Thanks po sa mga nagreply. Pupuntahan ko po yun. Pinag-iisipan ko kasi kung Caberg Rhyno, Zeus o HJC ang bibilhin ko eh. Available ba dun sa JT Triump yung complete Breath Guard ng HJC?

yes sir kumpleto po sila ng accessories for HJC helmets including breath guard, lens, pads etc.

sir sa jt triumph ba pwede mag pa ship?

The DOT, SNELL, ECE, etc stickers on the outside shell of the helmet is easy to fake. Most of the fake helmets can copy this type of sticker and just put this on. To find out if the helmet is really DOT, SNELL, ECE etc approved, go look inside the padding of the helmet in between the shell and the pads for the authentic (w/ hologram sticker and serial number) DOT, SNELL, ECE sticker.

The CL-14 I bought at Triumph Caloocan had this authentic sticker inside...

Please correct me if I'm wrong....Thanks!

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm132/dflores19/Untitled.jpg

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm132/dflores19/IMG_3085.jpg

meron palang gnung sticker un sa loob? ASTIG!!! parang serial number ung nakalagay. :banana:

The DOT, SNELL, ECE, etc stickers on the outside shell of the helmet is easy to fake. Most of the fake helmets can copy this type of sticker and just put this on. To find out if the helmet is really DOT, SNELL, ECE etc approved, go look inside the padding of the helmet in between the shell and the pads for the authentic (w/ hologram sticker and serial number) DOT, SNELL, ECE sticker.

The CL-14 I bought at Triumph Caloocan had this authentic sticker inside...

Please correct me if I'm wrong....Thanks!

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm132/dflores19/Untitled.jpg

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm132/dflores19/IMG_3085.jpg

'will be a very helpful info and big help in spotting fake ones. thank you sir!

Only JT Triumph is the exclusive distributor of HJC Helmets. Beware of others selling HJC Helmets.

One of the easiest thing to identify is the logo. Original HJC Helmets have the word "HELMETS" just below the HJC Logo.

AFIAK, HJC logos are placed on the front, left and right side part. Fakes, sometimes have logos at the back.

Another is when you look at the upper left part of the visor. It has and embossed marking of the visor model and has a certain warranty claim.

The padding of the fake is thinner compared to the original.

Try to read Mo2rista Magazine. They reviewed there the comparison between an original ang a fake.

HTH :D
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IMO, i'll go for HJC.:clap:

very valueable input sir.

heto pala yung gusto kong helmet, but this is not the one i was telling na sinubukan ko sa isang local store sa amin. i just hacked this from one of the pictures of our great off-road brothers out there and i just like to have permission to use from the owner. thanks.

MAGKANO KAYA MGA GANITONG MODEL MGA SIR, ANY IDEA?

http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr179/iam580/hjchelmet1.jpg

tanong lang dude regarding sa sinasabi mong DOT, SNELL, ECE etc. stickers na yan, kasi yung sa akin eh DOT, ECE, SNELL approved eh bakit di ko makita yang sinasabi mong yan? Para sa mga HJC helmet lang ba meron nun kasi yung sa akin eh AFX helmet and I bought it in the states eh....

The DOT, SNELL, ECE, etc stickers on the outside shell of the helmet is easy to fake. Most of the fake helmets can copy this type of sticker and just put this on. To find out if the helmet is really DOT, SNELL, ECE etc approved, go look inside the padding of the helmet in between the shell and the pads for the authentic (w/ hologram sticker and serial number) DOT, SNELL, ECE sticker.

The CL-14 I bought at Triumph Caloocan had this authentic sticker inside...

Please correct me if I'm wrong....Thanks!

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm132/dflores19/Untitled.jpg

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm132/dflores19/IMG_3085.jpg

ano mas maganda? zeus or HJC?

halos parehas lang yan..

entry level..

pero sa hjc ako..:D

meron palang gnung sticker un sa loob? ASTIG!!! parang serial number ung nakalagay. :banana:

here's mine from my CL-15 Orbit purchased last 2007 at JT caloocan
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa156/might_tor/021720094585.jpg

it also has its datecode
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa156/might_tor/021720094587.jpg

Sa pagkakaalam ko, kung talagang Snell Certified ang isang helmet, dapat may sticker na nakalagay ang serial number ng helmet. Sa HJC, placed siya sa loob ng shell, between the liner and the foam. Di ko lang matandaan kung saan dito sa forum yung nabasa kong pwede mong malaman kung orig and registered ang Snell certified helmet mo.;)

Just read this article online regarding Snell vs DOT helmets....

located at: http://sportrider.automotive.com/65961/146-0803-dot-helmet/index.html

Recently we've been receiving more than the usual number of press releases and samples of new helmets that meet only Department of Transportation (DOT) standards. Many people that I talk to about these lids claim that "a DOT-only helmet is better, because a Snell-approved helmet is too stiff." Their argument almost always cites Motorcyclist magazine's article from a couple years ago ("Blowing the Lid Off," June '05) in which a number of helmets were tested for impact absorption. Motorcyclist found that helmets meeting only the DOT standard were softer than Snell helmets (the other generally used standard in the United States), transmitting less impact energy in drop tests. Because of this the article con-cluded that DOT-only helmets were safer.

While I don't have an issue with the data presented in the article, I think it's a mistake for people to use it to make the blanket statement that a DOT-only helmet-any DOT-only helmet-is inherently safer than a helmet certified by Snell. I won't argue that one standard or another is better based on impact testing-that is a sticky issue in the industry and something that would take many pages to explain and discuss. But even with that out of the equation, there are a number of aspects that determine the safety of a helmet; the density of the shell and liner is just one of those.

Helmets sold in the U.S. for street use must meet the criteria of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard (FMVSS) 218, the official DOT standard. Like any other products manufactured to DOT standards such as lights, turn signals and wheels, a helmet model is not actually tested or certified to meet FMVSS 218 before it can be sold; the honor system is used. It's up to the manufacturer to test whatever is necessary to determine if the helmet meets the standard and then label it thus. The DOT, through the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA ), relies on independent, random testing of helmets obtained from retail outlets to police the standard. What this means is that I could make helmets from papier mach here in my office, put DOT labels on the back and sell them on eBay as meeting the DOT standard. Everything would be fine and no one would know otherwise until the helmets were chosen for random testing-if they were even chosen. Snell, on the other hand, tests and certifies sample helmets before they are released to the public, in addition to conducting random sampling. The Snell sticker affixed to the liner means the helmet model has in fact passed the tests and is approved by the Snell Foundation. Judging from the list of helmets that fail the random NHTSA testing and are recalled each year (see www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/testing/comply/fmvss218), a DOT sticker on a helmet is certainly no guarantee that it meets the standard.

Another difference between Snell and DOT is the area of the head covered. FMVSS 218 requires significantly less coverage than Snell, giving rise to "shorty" helmets that can leave a lot of your head exposed. Snell and other standards call for the shell to extend farther down the forehead and sides and back of the head, and Snell even requires a chin-bar test. One DOT-only full-face helmet we recently received has no expanded polystyrene (EPS) liner in the sides or chin bar, just comfort padding that won't offer much protection in a fall. Snell calls for even more testing of additional safety features that DOT overlooks: a roll-off test, in which the helmet can't be removed with the chin strap done up, and a face-shield penetration test.

Now I'm not saying all DOT-only helmets are unsafe. On the contrary, many companies realize these shortcomings in the standard and manufacture their products accordingly. A premium-brand DOT-only helmet will have an EPS liner in the chin bar and sides, for instance, as well as other features that a cut-rate helmet won't.

Here's another example: Many helmets are showing up with elaborate venting, scoops and even lights now, and protrusions such as these can catch on something in a fall and cause serious damage. DOT limits these projections to 5mm in height, although I've seen helmets that have vents blatantly taller. The Economic Commission of Europe (ECE) standard has a test for projections and surface friction in which anything that can potentially jerk the helmet when it slides across a surface breaks away so as not to cause harm. While Snell doesn't have an equivalent test, premium-brand manufacturers will incorporate the ECE test into their own internal standards.

What does all this mean? If you consider the DOT standard to be safer in terms of impact protection and want to wear a DOT-only helmet, choose something from a reputable manufacturer and make sure that standards haven't been compromised in other areas. The DOT helmet may not be as protective overall as a comfortable, good-fitting lid that is certified by Snell or another organization.

From the Snell website:

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm132/dflores19/Snell.jpg

Just read this article online regarding Snell vs DOT helmets....

located at: http://sportrider.automotive.com/65961/146-0803-dot-helmet/index.html

Recently we've been receiving more than the usual number of press releases and samples of new helmets that meet only Department of Transportation (DOT) standards. Many people that I talk to about these lids claim that "a DOT-only helmet is better, because a Snell-approved helmet is too stiff." Their argument almost always cites Motorcyclist magazine's article from a couple years ago ("Blowing the Lid Off," June '05) in which a number of helmets were tested for impact absorption. Motorcyclist found that helmets meeting only the DOT standard were softer than Snell helmets (the other generally used standard in the United States), transmitting less impact energy in drop tests. Because of this the article con-cluded that DOT-only helmets were safer.

While I don't have an issue with the data presented in the article, I think it's a mistake for people to use it to make the blanket statement that a DOT-only helmet-any DOT-only helmet-is inherently safer than a helmet certified by Snell. I won't argue that one standard or another is better based on impact testing-that is a sticky issue in the industry and something that would take many pages to explain and discuss. But even with that out of the equation, there are a number of aspects that determine the safety of a helmet; the density of the shell and liner is just one of those.

Helmets sold in the U.S. for street use must meet the criteria of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard (FMVSS) 218, the official DOT standard. Like any other products manufactured to DOT standards such as lights, turn signals and wheels, a helmet model is not actually tested or certified to meet FMVSS 218 before it can be sold; the honor system is used. It's up to the manufacturer to test whatever is necessary to determine if the helmet meets the standard and then label it thus. The DOT, through the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA ), relies on independent, random testing of helmets obtained from retail outlets to police the standard. What this means is that I could make helmets from papier mach here in my office, put DOT labels on the back and sell them on eBay as meeting the DOT standard. Everything would be fine and no one would know otherwise until the helmets were chosen for random testing-if they were even chosen. Snell, on the other hand, tests and certifies sample helmets before they are released to the public, in addition to conducting random sampling. The Snell sticker affixed to the liner means the helmet model has in fact passed the tests and is approved by the Snell Foundation. Judging from the list of helmets that fail the random NHTSA testing and are recalled each year (see www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/testing/comply/fmvss218), a DOT sticker on a helmet is certainly no guarantee that it meets the standard.

Another difference between Snell and DOT is the area of the head covered. FMVSS 218 requires significantly less coverage than Snell, giving rise to "shorty" helmets that can leave a lot of your head exposed. Snell and other standards call for the shell to extend farther down the forehead and sides and back of the head, and Snell even requires a chin-bar test. One DOT-only full-face helmet we recently received has no expanded polystyrene (EPS) liner in the sides or chin bar, just comfort padding that won't offer much protection in a fall. Snell calls for even more testing of additional safety features that DOT overlooks: a roll-off test, in which the helmet can't be removed with the chin strap done up, and a face-shield penetration test.

Now I'm not saying all DOT-only helmets are unsafe. On the contrary, many companies realize these shortcomings in the standard and manufacture their products accordingly. A premium-brand DOT-only helmet will have an EPS liner in the chin bar and sides, for instance, as well as other features that a cut-rate helmet won't.

Here's another example: Many helmets are showing up with elaborate venting, scoops and even lights now, and protrusions such as these can catch on something in a fall and cause serious damage. DOT limits these projections to 5mm in height, although I've seen helmets that have vents blatantly taller. The Economic Commission of Europe (ECE) standard has a test for projections and surface friction in which anything that can potentially jerk the helmet when it slides across a surface breaks away so as not to cause harm. While Snell doesn't have an equivalent test, premium-brand manufacturers will incorporate the ECE test into their own internal standards.

What does all this mean? If you consider the DOT standard to be safer in terms of impact protection and want to wear a DOT-only helmet, choose something from a reputable manufacturer and make sure that standards haven't been compromised in other areas. The DOT helmet may not be as protective overall as a comfortable, good-fitting lid that is certified by Snell or another organization.

From the Snell website:

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm132/dflores19/Snell.jpg

Very informative sir df22!:clap: My HJC CL-14 is Snell Certified and reviewed in BikeWorld.:L

http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu16/felix_miranda_2007/HJCcertified.jpg

Eto po sakin, sa hjc cl-14 kaaz yan... Bro go for hjc, sya na ang pinaka affordable na maganda gandang helmet besides zeus.. Dami nyan sa triumph jt caloocan..:clap:

Salamat sa mga nagreply

Ano bang magandang model ng HJC? wala pa kasi ako time pumunta sa JT Triumph eh

eh mga bro pasingit na din ha, may mabibili na ba akong HJC sa budget na P5,000?

kung wala, magkano yung pinakamalapit sa P5,000?

eh mga bro pasingit na din ha, may mabibili na ba akong HJC sa budget na P5,000?

kung wala, magkano yung pinakamalapit sa P5,000?

meron na sir..

yung cl-15 session ko is 4500 plus yung breathe guard 350 kaya sakto lang 5000 mo...

wow ayos.

may nakakaalam ba ng phone number ng Triumph JT? Tawagan ko muna kung ano meron sila.

sa TS, pasensya na ha, mukang na-hijack ko na tong thread mo. Interesado din kasi ako sa HJC eh.

google is your friend idol.

Company Name: TRIUMPH JT MARKETING CORPORATION

Address: 311 Rizal Avenue, Ext. between 8th & 9th Avenue Grace Park, Caloocan City Philippines 1470

Telephone: 3654873
Fax: 3612044


purchased my HJC at JT Triumph west ave last year.

Cl14. I also have a Zeus helmet but I sold it to Cold Flame. Both are good brands imo.


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@roden
you're in luck...they have some CL12s that are on SALE....below 4K lang...

magkano kaya yung cl-15 cyclone?

magkano kaya yung cl-15 cyclone?
got it less than 5K in JT west Ave

tama silang lahat! sa JT lang bumili ng HJC at huwag sa Quiapo, dami kong nakikitaan ng fake HJC helmets ngayon, yung isa nga nagyabang pa saken eh :O di sa pagiging rude pero sinabi ko sa kanya na di fake yung saken tulad nung sa kanya, ayaw pang maniwala kinumpara pa talaga niya yung sa kanya dun saken, in the end siya pa yung napahiya

pa OT na din

mga napansin ko sa helmet niya

1. sobrang nipis ng pads sa loob
2. dun sa 3 logo ng HJC walang "helmets" na nakalagay
3. madaling masira ang air vents kasi manipis yung plastic
4. halata din dun sa chin strap
5. fake DOT sticker
6. walang label dun sa visor (nakaumbok na mga letters dun sa upper right side ng visor)

Pupunta na ako sa JT bukas hehe..sana may magustuhan akong design..at sana abot sa budget na dadalhin ko..hihihihi..Thanks guys..

Goodluck bro.. Take your time sa pagpili.. :)

google is your friend idol.

Company Name: TRIUMPH JT MARKETING CORPORATION

Address: 311 Rizal Avenue, Ext. between 8th & 9th Avenue Grace Park, Caloocan City Philippines 1470

Telephone: 3654873
Fax: 3612044


purchased my HJC at JT Triumph west ave last year.

Cl14. I also have a Zeus helmet but I sold it to Cold Flame. Both are good brands imo.


http://images.msgd40.multiply.com/image/2/photos/51/500x500/17/DSC-0806.JPG?et=VS1xMr4qPYxruxvoFjDJfA&nmid=219930331

paps baka pwede pa pm rin cp no.ng jt triumph...thanx helmet hunt kasi ako ngaun...

dmax - idol wala po ako cell number ng Jt Triumph eh sorry :)

planning to buy a HJC helmet

ganto gsto ko HJC pegasus just like in my avatar ganyan na ganyan walang stock sa JT triumph eh

im a ZEUS user nga pla

satisfied ako sa hjc cl-15 pegasus ko...maporma na, dot at snell m2005 certified na. sulit talaga.:clap:

i'd like to look or buy a HJC helmet. kung galing ako, mga sir, sa may malapit ng makati fire station (kanto ng AYALA at BUENDIA), saan kaya ang pinakamalapit na JT triumph branch. Or sa caloocan lang po ba sila?

thanks!

sir tonypao how much po ganyan na hjc?

i tried the KBC VR-2R XXL ganda sana.. kaso ang liit.... masakit sa pisngi... syang nmn...

pro ung cl-15 draco ive tried it na ok sa fit ung nga lng malaki lng talaga shell ng HJC

compared to other brands.... eto nlng siguro... any idea sa breath guard and smoked lens

kung magkano???? anung models pa ang medj midrange or high end ng HJC???

saang branch ng JT maraming stocks?

thanx....

http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv283/alvin_delmundo/nxtlidHJC.jpg

i tried the KBC VR-2R XXL ganda sana.. kaso ang liit.... masakit sa pisngi... syang nmn...

pro ung cl-15 draco ive tried it na ok sa fit ung nga lng malaki lng talaga shell ng HJC

compared to other brands.... eto nlng siguro... any idea sa breath guard and smoked lens

kung magkano???? anung models pa ang medj midrange or high end ng HJC???

saang branch ng JT maraming stocks?

thanx....

http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv283/alvin_delmundo/nxtlidHJC.jpg

Sa Caloocan branch po sir. :banana:

sir tonypao how much po ganyan na hjc?

Sir Killua, kuha ko 3,800Php nag-iisa na lang dun sa binilhan ko nung time na nag-sale. Nabili ko ito dito sa isang motorcycle shop here in legazpi, albay.

sir just being curious HJC stands for?:D

i'd like to look or buy a HJC helmet. kung galing ako, mga sir, sa may malapit ng makati fire station (kanto ng AYALA at BUENDIA), saan kaya ang pinakamalapit na JT triumph branch. Or sa caloocan lang po ba sila?

thanks!

i wasn't able to go to JT triumph. hectic masyado schedule..

thanks to Motorrad_Boy ARMAND for providing directions going to OZ racing Makati, alternative sanang puntahan very tight talaga ang sched at di tayo nakalusot. so with dt_maximum JOEL for giving directions going to caloocan sales, makati branch. thank you guys!

i'll try next time around.

meron na sir..

yung cl-15 session ko is 4500 plus yung breathe guard 350 kaya sakto lang 5000 mo...



sir anu po ba ung breath guard??