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ano nga ba ang dahilan bakit marami ayaw gumamit ng sony dslr camera???

ano ba pinagkaiba ng sony sa canon, nikon, minolta, konika, etc??


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para sakin.


napaka mahal po ng lente. kokonti aftermarket at third party lens and accessories.

When it comes to CAMERA...subok na kse ang mga brands like canon, nikon, minolta, konika, etc?? at isa pa eh compatible kse ang mga aftermarket parts especially lense like sigma, tamron atbp. :nuts:

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ganun ba yun? ang gusto ko kase sa sony dslr yung nati-tilt yung lcd nya, kaya kahit kumuha ka ng mga pics above head or ground level walang problema...


sa quality ng pics ok naman....


so sa aftermarkets lang pala nagkakatalo kung ganun?



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ganun ba yun? ang gusto ko kase sa sony dslr yung nati-tilt yung lcd nya, kaya kahit kumuha ka ng mga pics above head or ground level walang problema...


sa quality ng pics ok naman....


so sa aftermarkets lang pala nagkakatalo kung ganun?



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If yo are a photographer or a hobbiest in taking scenic view...u prefer a brand that was trusted due to it's reputation....most photographer are after with the quality of picture produce and secondary is the features...kung tilting lang ng lcd ang pag uusapan kahit wala ang leading brand, they don't mind it.

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ano nga ba ang dahilan bakit marami ayaw gumamit ng sony dslr camera???

ano ba pinagkaiba ng sony sa canon, nikon, minolta, konika, etc??


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coz their lenses is BLOODY expensive! and its a JOKE [i mean most of their accessories too=b]

just to be fair..they have enough resources and funding when it comes to research and development [being able to buy konica minolta] so at least they wont have to start from scratch

Sony is a good name only on paper...unless you want something different with funky logic control na parang playstation:O

there are better choices [well unless sony would modify their prices]

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ganun ba yun? ang gusto ko kase sa sony dslr yung nati-tilt yung lcd nya, kaya kahit kumuha ka ng mga pics above head or ground level walang problema...


sa quality ng pics ok naman....


so sa aftermarkets lang pala nagkakatalo kung ganun?



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sony was never taken seriously as a seriois photography tool....not only mahina ang 3rd company support [ well you can still use konica minolta lenses mount] pero....for the money ...of the same amount and specs...daming canon nikon dyan....:D[or even pentax or oly]

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meron akong nababasa na mga reviews about dslr ng sony, actually meron silang brand na naging pangalawa sya...ewan ko kung canon at nikon ang pinag-compare nila.

in terms of serious nila bout quality ng photography, palagay ko naman na binibigyan din nila ng pansin yun. dahil kung hindi, hindi na sana sila magdedevelop ng into other models.

well mahal nga lang talaga siguro ang lenses at accessories ng sony.



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IMHO ha, :)
ako nagkaron ako nd a100 for 1week.. tapos binenta kna.. :)
ndi ok ang kit lens compared sa kit lens ng nikon :)
ndi ganon kasharp, grainy or noisy... dahil siguro sa features lang ng cam..
ewan ko sa higher models..
ang good/fast lenses nila eh sobrang mamahal... mas mahal pa sa pro grade lens ng nikon/canons.. :)
lalo sa primes...
sa tech support, dko alam kng good service sila aftersales.
pero kng yun tlga priority mo ang may tilting lcd gogogo :)

I've also read reviews that Sony is going at par with the leaders Nikon and Canon, and sometimes their cameras fare even better than other candidates of the leaders, it's just that their accessories are either expensive or hard-to-find, the I've read a review of the A300 and according to the review, fares better than Nikon's D60 and Canon's 1000D...

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so here's what i believe kung bakit marami umaayaw sa sony dslr for three main reasons...

1. mahal ang unit
2. mahal ang lens at rare
3. kaunti ang aftermarket accessories


pero in terms of specs, quality, features and function.... palagay ko angat kahit paano ang sony.

parang walang pinagkaiba ito siguro sa mga sony laptops, may kamahalan din.



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so here's what i believe kung bakit marami umaayaw sa sony dslr for three main reasons...

1. mahal ang unit
2. mahal ang lens at rare
3. kaunti ang aftermarket accessories


pero in terms of specs, quality, features and function.... palagay ko angat kahit paano ang sony.

parang walang pinagkaiba ito siguro sa mga sony laptops, may kamahalan din.



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ganito na lang sir:

try mo i compare ang mga model ng sony according to entry level, advance amateur, enthusiast and pro...


...compared sa kwanon at neekun:D

tapos add mo yung comparison nung prices kung body only or kit

tsaka na muna natin i consider yung accessories..


so example:

since i am a nikon user...

kung me nikon D90 ako or Nikon D300,

anu model pwede kong i compare sa sony? A350 vs. d90 or A700 vs.D300

kung pro naman,,,kaya bang lumaban ng A900 sa D3X?

i do belive na me mga DSLR na gawa ang sony na ok ang built quality PERO....kaninong competition model mo sya pwede i compare?

tapos magkakatalo na yan sa presyo....

presyo kung bibilhin mong as a kit [anu kasamang lente sa sony?]or just the body only

problem din sa sony...di masyado madami pagpipilian ng lenses for digital at saksakan pa ng mahal...same for their flashguns

as for the laptops yes sony laptops are really expensive [ i got my TR vaion for 165,000 4 years ago ] pero that time it was the most compact 10" subnotebook with DVD drive you can buy......

no doubt about it...pang mercedes presyo ng sony sa laptop...

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lets say na medyo mababa ang presyo ng kits at units ng sony dslr, and lenses nya halos kasing presyo ng sa canon/nikon, and kasing dami ng accessories/lenses ng nikon/canon na rin....


.....ano pipiliin nyo, canon, nikon o sony?




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lets say na medyo mababa ang presyo ng kits at units ng sony dslr, and lenses nya halos kasing presyo ng sa canon/nikon, and kasing dami ng accessories/lenses ng nikon/canon na rin....


.....ano pipiliin nyo, canon, nikon o sony?




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if thats the case...i would still go for nikon or canon


they have been in the game for more than 60 years....

at subok na sila...

sony is lucky kasi they didnt start from scratch....me input na sila from konica minolta when they bought the company...

with due respect to sony, they make good sensors for DSLR [ which nikon uses some of it ]

PS

using the reality testing at present...i dont think sony will be planning to reduce their prices anyway...and it would take a lot of clever inventions, innovations in digital camera technology just to surpass canon or nikons success..

It's a Sony for heaven's sake guys.

Their TV is not as good as Bang and Olufsen but they can command a good price for anything they build.

Ang kaluluwa ng mga dslr (CMOS), e Sony. So, it's not a surprise that they build their own line and yes, to get a good share beating the veterans of the market.

Why everybody is not buying their dslr is the same question to those not buying their dvd players etc.

Ganito ako na adik sa F717 nila. Lahat ng Sony accessories for F717 that came out binili ko.

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o72/triflector/items4sale/F717-Ulitimate-Collection.jpg

Then after a month after I got F828 binenta ko agad at a loss. Then I got my first alpha, like Orion binenta ko rin agad.

The bottom line, it's simply not practical in many terms.



(shameless plug - binebenta ko na rin yung F717 collection ko. :D)

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so here's what i believe kung bakit marami umaayaw sa sony dslr for three main reasons...

1. mahal ang unit
2. mahal ang lens at rare
3. kaunti ang aftermarket accessories

pero in terms of specs, quality, features and function.... palagay ko angat kahit paano ang sony.

parang walang pinagkaiba ito siguro sa mga sony laptops, may kamahalan din.
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tama ka jan bro... ang laptops na vaio ang mamahal, na kng sa specs lang, andaming mas mababang specs, na unbranded pa minsan... its der big name SONY :)

siguro madami lang ang mas tiwala sa gawa ng nikon/canon/oly/pentax dslrs compared sa sony..
kse mas matagal na nila nakikita ang name ng mga yan sa industry ng photography compared sa sony na matagal narin ang name nila pero ndi sa photogaphy... pero kng bibigyan ako ng sony, why not.. :)
ok rin naman sana, pero kng gagstos narin lang ako, dun nako sa mas subok at kilala ng lahat, mahirap mangapa at wala kang makalabit na may alam sa problema mo sa cam mo, kse bihira lang ang meron.. :)
well imho lang naman.. :)
nice thread tho..

it's because sony spends so much on their marketing compared to the other dslr manufacturers. how many tv ads have you seen showing a sony dslr? and how many for nikon and canon? well... there's your answer why sony is soo damn expensive. the in body steady shot is not as good as a lens vr, is or os for that matter. and the biggest thing that not so many people buy sony is that their lens and accessories are so expensive, i guess because they carry zeiss...

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baka meron mga sony users dito na gusto naman magshare ng experience nila about their dslr.


para makuha natin ang opinion nila.....



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baka meron mga sony users dito na gusto naman magshare ng experience nila about their dslr.


para makuha natin ang opinion nila.....



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sir, try www.dpreview.com for a comprehensive review on the sony dslr's.

am no pro-photographer, hilig ko lang, occasional photoshots, entry level only....my first digicam is Samsung, then Olympus, then Nikon (all sold)...and now I have this Sony Cybershot, the macro is terrible and photo quality is not that good...tsambahan lang ang ganda ng kuha inddor man or outdoor...abot hanggang langit ang sisi ko kung bakit binitawan ko ang Nikon at Olympus ko noon....sana i stick na lang sa journalists' prefered brand: Nikon :)

OT:

The reason why Sony products not just SLR cameras is because all their products are manufactured by their sub-contractors. Even their very own Sony Walkman was made by their sub-contractor. Sony focuses on Marketing only. Gone are the days that they develop their own products.

OT:

The reason why Sony products not just SLR cameras is because all their products are manufactured by their sub-contractors. Even their very own Sony Walkman was made by their sub-contractor. Sony focuses on Marketing only. Gone are the days that they develop their own products.


BUT:

R&D is done by sony...so even before is starts on the manufacturing process the blue print would be sony...

even if its true....say for an example...sony produces their own sensors for DSLR which nikon also uses...the quality control must be so strict and very very high for these sub contractors to produce a given sensor....no way nikon would like being put in an embarassing situation if these sensors end up a lemon.

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so marami talagang ayaw sa sony dslr. pero paano nyo ire-rate ang sony dslr compare sa ibang brands?

or pang ilan ba ang sony dslr compare sa ibang brand? sino para sa inyo ang the best?

example ko lang..


1st canon
2nd nikon
3rd konika
4th olympus
5th sony

and so on...

kayo na magbigay na ratings kung paano ang pakakasunod...




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so marami talagang ayaw sa sony dslr. pero paano nyo ire-rate ang sony dslr compare sa ibang brands?

or pang ilan ba ang sony dslr compare sa ibang brand? sino para sa inyo ang the best?

example ko lang..


1st canon
2nd nikon
3rd konika
4th olympus
5th sony

and so on...

kayo na magbigay na ratings kung paano ang pakakasunod...




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1] Neekon [ coz thats what i own ]
2] Kwanon [ for others they would rate this at top spot coz canon user sila]
3] Pentax
4] Olympus
5] Sony
6] Samsung
7] Fuji
8] Sigma
9] Panasonic
10] foto me :D

siguro kung i a amend nila price listing ng mga DSLR products nila...baka yung market share nila eh mas gumanda

i'll go for:
1] Kwanon [hehehe ito kasi ang camera ko eh...:D]
2] Neekon
3] Pentax
4] Olympus
5] Sony

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mukhang marami rin ang bumoboto sa Pentax ah?



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mukhang marami rin ang bumoboto sa Pentax ah?



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Maganda din naman kse ang photo capture ng pentax and to mention the K20D and K200D na pinantatapat nila sa Nikon & Canon with the same specification range, pero Sony! well...bahala na kyong humusga :nuts:

Sabi ni Mang Ramon (Mayer) di maganda Sony DSLR kasi wala accessories. And may tsismis nga daw na Sony is going bankrupt this year. Not unlike the previous rumors na they'll go bankrupt, mas malapit daw na mangyari yan this year.

makikiraan mga bro, im a sony a200 user.
i bought this jan2008 kase maganda review hehehe im a newbie sa hobby n to, and i seldom use it, nong umpisa lang madalas.. mas gusto ko magmotorbike hehehe

Let's just say na bago pa lang ang Sony sa camera business and not to mention Digital SLR's. Nikon, Canon, Minolta, Leica and etc has been in this business for God knows how long. Sila nga nas forefront ng digital photography technology.

I am a nikon user and I won't shift (hmmn, siguro pag high end na canon pwede!) kasi I know the capabilities ng Nikon eh! Dami namin film SLR na Nikon and sobrang ganda ng kuha nya.

I am a nikon user and I won't shift (hmmn, siguro pag high end na canon pwede!)

ako din para kasing ganda rin ng kuha ni jangonsalez.com mga gawa ko :D

Para sa akin ok naman ang Sony, I got an A300, ang bad trip nga lang, mahal ang lens DITO, as in doble ang presyo, sa ibang bansa mura lang. Isa pa, oo nga kobti ang 3rd party support.

pero para sa akin 8/10 ang Sony DSLRs. Kung hobbyist ka lang naman, okay na, swak na swak.

mahal kasi ung lens ng sony, at the same time sa review sony is starting to enter the camera world while their competitor is already sr. usually kasi ang sony naka focus lang sa technology but if you compare it with thier price ung worth 20k na camera sa sony with all those features is worth 15k lang sa canon or other brand ng camera, syempre not all are same merong advance technology ang sony minsan meron din ang sa kabila. but usually ung major needs sa photography like pixels shutters etch almost the same lang. IMHO

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so marami talagang ayaw sa sony dslr. pero paano nyo ire-rate ang sony dslr compare sa ibang brands?

or pang ilan ba ang sony dslr compare sa ibang brand? sino para sa inyo ang the best?

example ko lang..


1st canon
2nd nikon
3rd konika
4th olympus
5th sony

and so on...

kayo na magbigay na ratings kung paano ang pakakasunod...




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1. hasselblad
2. nikon
3. leica
4. canon
5. zenith
6. olympus
7. sony
8. lumix
9. pentax
10. fuji

1. hasselblad
2. nikon
3. leica
4. canon
5. zenith
6. olympus
7. sony
8. lumix
9. pentax
10. fuji


you must be a proud owner of hasselblad DSLR [that would be the H3D right?]

kindly share your 1st hand experience for such a camera being your top on your list....

also i didnt know zenith makes a Dslr....

Bakit nga ba maraming ayaw sa Sony dslr.. hmmm

iv already read so much of what everybody have to say here so i guess a proud sony alpha owner should now speak:D...

first thing first.. the reason why more people go with canikon than any other DSLR brand is because they are cheap, and they have been a cradle for dslr beginners since the '90..

now as some of you knows sony didnt start from scratch on their dslr line. actually sony strategically decided to buy minolta because as not so many of you knows konica minolta was the first to have the AF (auto Focus) Technology. yes! not your favorite canikon brand!:D and it was revolutionary at that time! and now sony is the first to have a moving sensor to defy camera shake just like nikons VR lens or canons IS. but im still opting for sony to launch new lens that also has image stabilizer on it that way you'd double your stabilizer ensure that camera shake wont affect your image anymore. (imagine that?!) . btw sony had just recently launch new line up of entry level body's and lens, which is more like nikon entry levels that is beginner friend but has no motor on body.

now going to sony philipines prices. we cant blame them. they are a very big company marketing from TV-to-home theater-to-computers-to-cameras you cant even imagine how much they pay for tax here compare to canikon..
if you live somewhere like in US you would be amaze on how cheap you can buy this DSLR's on market sales.. i know someone who recently bought a Sony A700 for only $999 convert it to peso you'd get something like 46k. local price here is somewhere at 70k i think. i got my a350 for less than $700 back when it was still around 45k here.
ITS THE TAX NOT SONY.

and for those who want to compare body.. why not compare sony a300 or a350 to nikon d60 or canon 450d?
or the a200 to nikon d40
or a700 to nikon d80?
or a900 to canikon's full frames?
check the reviews you'd be suprise:D


and btw sony entry level kit lens 18-75 are far better than canikon 18-55, i even know someone who gets paid doing portraiture using his a100 & kit 18-75.. i tell you his shots are awesome! perhaps the guy who said that his a100 & kit wasn't sharp and noisy doesn't know how to use it! (maybe he was shooting on broad daylight on a ISO1600)lol.
any third party lens compatible to minolta AF and the minolta maxxum AF lens itself are also compatible to any sony dslr.. (except for the new body sony is releasing that doesnt have motors on it.. i think)


and for jetzone saying "sony was never taken seriously as a serious photography tool"
cmon man you got to have something better to say than that. im not a Pro but i know a lot of Professional photographers who make a living out of their sony dslr! and more obviously they are better than you.
you see my friend its not about the gears, its all about who's using it!
even if you have the most expensive body and the most expensive lens if you dont know how to use it properly and you dont have enough creativity in you, you would still end up a loser in photography!

here's a fact most film photographers have switched to digital with the respected brand they have grown with because first they dont want to start all over again with their expensive gears rendering useless, second is because they have grown familiar the interface on their body and lens as they have trusted it with the result of their shots and dont want to built trust with someone else.
the name ALPHA and logo came along way from konika minolta AF body, sony took over where minolta has left to continue its innovation and provide a more pleasing digital experience to minolta users and to all who would like to join their family.

for the sake of argument:

himayin natin ang mga sinabi mo:

"the reason why more people go with canikon than any other DSLR brand is because they are cheap, and they have been a cradle for dslr beginners since the '90.."

errr....

1] ala pong digital camera commercially available from starting in 1990

that time i am using an oly az 330 , minolta maxxum 7000 , minolta x700

tsaka lumabas lang ang digital cameras during late 90's


cheap? alam mo ba kung magkakano tong mga jurassic dslr? i am talking between the pre canon 1d and nikon d1

-maybe you want to re-evaluate your statement


"because as not so many of you knows konica minolta was the first to have the AF (auto Focus) Technology. yes! not your favorite canikon brand!:D"

the first AF 35mm camera is made by KOnica in 1977

take note: minolta and canon released their AF versions in 1979 di ko lang alam kung sino sa dalawa ang nauna canon released theirs nov. 1979

canon launched the AF35M SST AF camera [ if you want to see it in flesh, ill be happy to let you see it coz we still have the camera and in very good condition ]

during these years Konica WAS never part of MInolta

tsaka compare mo yung 1st AF ng Canon and MInolta, pansin mo, Minolta still uses a crank to advance the film while canon uses a built in motor

-maybe you should re-evaluate your statement


"sony is the first to have a moving sensor to defy camera shake just like nikons VR lens or canons IS."


the moving sensor technology is popularized by Minolta which at that time wasnt a part of Sony

AS technology [CCD shift] became popular on minoltas bridge cameras [A1,A2 and 7D & 5D]

as for sony, di ba Steady shot and technology nila [ the earliest mavica uses this technology that was borrowed from the camcorder features]

-maybe you should re-evaluate your statement


"but im still opting for sony to launch new lens that also has image stabilizer on it that way you'd double your stabilizer ensure that camera shake wont affect your image anymore. (imagine that?!) ."

ask anyone who knows about anti shake about this argument....at matatawa sila...

its just plain common sense....you CANT apply ccd shift and ois in the lens to make it work...

"a900 to canikon's full frames?
check the reviews you'd be suprise:D"


sony may have provided nikon with their sensor...they can maximize the full potential of their sensor as how nikon does

tsaka naman, di ako canon uses ha....pero ilaban natin A900 sa flagship ng CAnon....1DS M III...

yeah check the reviews.....


"and for jetzone saying "sony was never taken seriously as a serious photography tool"
cmon man you got to have something better to say than that. im not a Pro but i know a lot of Professional photographers who make a living out of their sony dslr! and more obviously they are better than you. "


then maybe you can ask what camera NASA uses

then maybe you can watch the last olympics tapos check mo mga press photogs na magkakatabi sa sideline ng games at mapapansin mo na marami kang makikitang white colored lens body

then maybe you can read national geographic magazine tapos makikita mo kung anu mga kit halos gamit nila

yep you know a lot of professional photographers who uses sony dslr and much better than me...

syempre, naman profession nila yun..they have to be good d ba? i take photography as a hobby, not as a profession...

eh mas nakaka hiya naman kung sasabihin nating pro photogs tapos eh kulelat d vah...

trabajo nila yun, kaya magaling sila dun

ako magaling akong phlebotomist....coz profession ko yun...now, send me a friend of yours na pwedeng mag tusok ng karayom sa dibdib ng tao mismo.i mean gauge 14 na karayom hehehe

but then again...you know those people and i dont...but then i again idol ko si tom hogan or kahit na si Ken Rockwell at di yung kakilala mo

but the truth there is....kahit mga Indian...yung mga Popular at well known na Indians...

[tutuo, its not in the gears...pero, suyurin mo ang photogs forum...survey tayo kung ilan ang gumagamit ng sony?]

me preferrence sila kung anung pana gagamitin nila:D:evil:

to add:

AS technology [CCD shift] became popular on minoltas bridge cameras and DSLR[A1,A2 and 7D & 5D]

I dont know why this sort of bashing thrives even in photography.

Back to topic.

bakit marami ayaw sa sony dslr?
= kasi mahal. Di ko kayang bilin.

Super close friend at blood brother ko yan si therapist. I remember introducing him to riding and even arranged him to get a yamaha mio. Thick ang thin ang samahan namin yan.

From my short experience in photography, naiingit nga ako sa kanya.

May 70-300mm sya na pwedeng mag autofocus sa A350 nya.
Ang daming prime lens sa minolta mount sa sakto sa A350 nya. 3 na ata prime nya!
Mga minolta compatible at beercan lens...nakaka laway.
Daming seminars at photog school na ang inatendan nya.
Binisita ko thread nila, ay sus! Ang gaganda ng kuha. No bashing doon.

E yung sakin

Para mag ka prime lens e kelangan e manual focus para di mahal ang lente.
Kelangan ng VR para alang kalog. Sa A350, nasa body mismo.
Tilting screen at ang laki ng LCD. Daming autofocus points. Akin 3 lang.

Kung may pera lang ako nung una, sana nag SONY DSLR ako. Pero malay natin diba. Pag may bumili ng D60, kit lens at 55 200 ko ngayon, pwedeng mag A700 nako.

Yaan mo na mike, di natin matatalo sa debate yan si jetzone. Masyadong matalino at magaling. **sabay yuko pagpupugay kay jetzone*** idol! Dumudugo ilong ko sa pagbabasa reply nya.

Baguhan lang po kami sir.

I dont know why this sort of bashing thrives even in photography.

Back to topic.

bakit marami ayaw sa sony dslr?
= kasi mahal. Di ko kayang bilin.

Super close friend at blood brother ko yan si therapist. I remember introducing him to riding and even arranged him to get a yamaha mio. Thick ang thin ang samahan namin yan.

From my short experience in photography, naiingit nga ako sa kanya.

May 70-300mm sya na pwedeng mag autofocus sa A350 nya.
Ang daming prime lens sa minolta mount sa sakto sa A350 nya. 3 na ata prime nya!
Mga minolta compatible at beercan lens...nakaka laway.
Daming seminars at photog school na ang inatendan nya.
Binisita ko thread nila, ay sus! Ang gaganda ng kuha. No bashing doon.

E yung sakin

Para mag ka prime lens e kelangan e manual focus para di mahal ang lente.
Kelangan ng VR para alang kalog. Sa A350, nasa body mismo.
Tilting screen at ang laki ng LCD. Daming autofocus points. Akin 3 lang.

Kung may pera lang ako nung una, sana nag SONY DSLR ako. Pero malay natin diba. Pag may bumili ng D60, kit lens at 55 200 ko ngayon, pwedeng mag A700 nako.

Yaan mo na mike, di natin matatalo sa debate yan si jetzone. Masyadong matalino at magaling. **sabay yuko pagpupugay kay jetzone*** idol! Dumudugo ilong ko sa pagbabasa reply nya.

Baguhan lang po kami sir.


sir, if your happy with your sony so be it...remember i did mentioned na meron din akong minolta.

at present, i still got my A2 bridge and Dynax 303 35mm film slr....pero why do i still patronize minolta even though Sony applied the same [alpha] mount?

the simple truth na sony's price is ridiculously high is just a fact...kung mataas ang tax at kung anu pang dahilan or excuse ng sony...at the end of the day, mataas pa rin ang price ng sony.

tsaka whatever technology minolta or konica had introduced, leave it there....hindi for benefit ng sony yan...kasi it wasnt their company who revolutionized it.

AS is of personal choice. between CCD shift and OIS, masgusto ko ang AS sa lens. and im not surprise kung bakit major manufacturers almost applies the OIS.

i agree with you very convenient ang ccd shift if you need an AS tapos manual ang lens na gamit mo.

what sony did after minolta was to improve the quality of ccd shift

pero if AS works for you, then no bother. i am a minolta user and kahit papano, was really sad that this company , this name went bust

pero it doesnt mean i can appreciate sony lalo na presyo nila[ imagine i did compare yung new top of the line flashgun nila vs. sa nikon sb 900:eek:]

sony lover din ako, pero never on dslr

sir were not talking kung baguhan kayo o hindi....were talking kung bakit marami ayaw sa sony dslr.

buti nga eto yung tanung...most photog forum debates about the white side vs. the dark side...at mas mainit dun

take note:

the title of the thread is question on the negatve side, so expect negative answers.peace

one thing also is because of this forum. hehehehe.... ako galing sa CANON, at habang bumibisita dito sa MCP ayun napabili tuluy ng NIKON,hehehe...... yup its true may nadadali rin kung ano ang use ng majority.....

Astig talaga! Dami ko natutunan dito ah. Mike pasok!

HAHA yup! i think this guy is really good at all thing nga! **yuko din ako bigay pugay sa inyo sir jetzone!** (imagine hindi sha alpha user pro ang dami nya alam ah!)

sir beginner lang ako sa dslr and im still learning, hindi ko alam kung gano na kayo katagal pumipitik at kung ganon na tayo kagaling at kung ano man ang gears nyo (though i dont care to know, mamya i quote mo nanaman yan at sabihin mo pa ang gears mo eh). pro ako lahat ng sinabi ko eh ung mga nabasa at nalaman ko lang about my camera and its origin. (obviously masmadami kayo alam qoute nyo halos lahat ng sinabi ko eh.. idol!!! **yuko ule at bigay pugay sa inyo!**

ako im satisfied with my sony alpha and hindi ko sha bibitawan or ipagpapalit sa ibang brand. if mag uupgrade ako its to a higher alpha! ( ung bagong ilalabas nila na ka level ng a700? woohoo!!) kami ksi we dont really compete with other brands. as you can see tahimik ang alpha users pag dating sa coparison ng body's at lens. its not that we cant compete, we can reviews shows it. its just that we choose not to dahil wala naman katuturan (not the gear to the shooter nga db?). hindi kami katulad ng mga canonista at nikonians na bangayan ng bangayan. like recently sony release new body's to compete with its previous sets. (old body's sony a100,a200,a300,a350 - new body's a230, a330, a380)

pro just to say something lang din. on your first qoute on me:D
well since your are too bright and it seems like you know alot of things i didnt actually understand why you still quoted it since its an obvious typo error. everyone knows Dslr weren't developed yet back on the '90. but then i guess its just your way of saying "hoy bobo ka hindi mo alam sinasabi mo! ako magaling! alam ko lahat yan! etong sayo!" hehe:evil:

quote din ako
"then maybe you can watch the last olympics tapos check mo mga press photogs na magkakatabi sa sideline ng games at mapapansin mo na marami kang makikitang white colored lens body"

sir are you pertaining to lens like 70-200 2.8, 70-300 2.8, 70-400 4.5-5.6? sony also have those at same color.. bka ung ibang nakita nyo eh sony body and lens try nyo iscan lahat ng photog sa video para sure kayo.. hehe
btw we even have rumors about a 80-200 1.4 **cool** hehe


Quote again:
"its just plain common sense....you CANT apply ccd shift and ois in the lens to make it work..."


oww i though your a nurse sir camera tech developer din pala kayo! (but then again you know alot so baka tama parin kayo on this..hehe) but who knows... kaw din sir baka pag lumabas yang ganyang technology ma quote yan sinabi mo! hehe

QUote:
"syempre, naman profession nila yun..they have to be good d ba? i take photography as a hobby, not as a profession...

"eh mas nakaka hiya naman kung sasabihin nating pro photogs tapos eh kulelat d vah.."

-ay kaya nga po sabi ko "obviously they are better than you" (in tagalog malamang sa malamang mas magaling sila syo) ksi its their profession.. sabi mo nga hindi mo naman profession ang photography hobby lang kaya nga your too arrogant to say such a thing ("sony was never taken seriously as a serious photography tool") btw i dont think those people would choose sony as their Professional tool for their Profession if "sony should never taken seriously as a serious photography tool"

Quote:
"ako magaling akong phlebotomist....coz profession ko yun...now, send me a friend of yours na pwedeng mag tusok ng karayom sa dibdib ng tao mismo.i mean gauge 14 na karayom hehehe"

sir hindi lang naman po siguro kayo ang nag iisang pinoy na nursing graduate at board passer? (i have to idea kya my question mark ah.. bka ma quote nanaman!). siguro naman ung mga kilala kong nurse eh marunong din mag tusok ng karayom sa dibdib ng tao.. pro if you really want a volunteer pwede ako, try ko din mag tusok ng karayo sa dibdib nyo.. try lang malay nyo magawa ko ng tama! hehe joke lang:D:evil:

Quote:
"but then again...you know those people and i dont...but then i again idol ko si tom hogan or kahit na si Ken Rockwell at di yung kakilala mo"

hindi ko kilala yang mga idol nyo sir....
AKO IDOL KO SI PAPI KAIZEN!!!!

Quote:
"[tutuo, its not in the gears...pero, suyurin mo ang photogs forum...survey tayo kung ilan ang gumagamit ng sony?]"

eh sa ngayon sir ang nasa network ko lang na alpha users around 173 pinoys palang. pro if you really want numbers meron pong section sa dpp ang sony sa loob po nun makikita nyo ung thread ng sony alpha users list. alam nyo naman siguro ang website na dpp (http://digitalphotographer.com.ph)? eh dami nyo alam imposibleng hindi. hehe makikita nyo rin dun mga kuha ng alpha body's and lens (inc minolta lens and 3rd party). try and look lang sir see if pasok sa HIGH standards nyo ang kaya lang gawin ng alpha.

shmpre hindi ko naman makikilala lahat specially those who live in foreign country. actually sometimes when im at a mall or just outside i still see people having a sony dslr strapped at their necks.

eto pang isa sonyalphapinoy1.multiply.com dami pics dyan all taken with a sony alpha.

sir seriously saludo ako sa inyo, ang talino nyo eh!!.. dami nyo alam and sobrang dami ko agad na tutunan sa reply nyong maraming quote from my post! **yuko ule at bigay pugay!!** another great nurse to enhance the quality of the rotten hospital service in our country! ohh wait.. filipino nga ba ang pinag seserbisyohan nyo o tulad din kayo ng nakararami na tinalikuhan na ang knyang bansa kapalit ng pera? (IMHO lang yan)

last quote:
"cheap? alam mo ba kung magkakano tong mga jurassic dslr? i am talking between the pre canon 1d and nikon d1"

"the simple truth na sony's price is ridiculously high is just a fact"


nikon and canon will always be cheap until you stop saying that "sony's price is ridiculously high" now that a fact!. dont you agree???! hahahaha!!!!!

** in repect to all canon and nikon users your DSLR cameras are great just like my sony alpha. i am not here to discriminate but just to be proud of what i have. **

thread title is not too great for question. better yet ask "Why do you love your DSLR brand? ( bakit mo gusto ang dslr brand mo?)" **(ohh ma qquote nanaman toh!! hahahaha!!):D

pro since eto ang title nd thread : "bakit marami ayaw sa sony dslr?"

= HINDI KO AYAW ANG SONY DSLR! GUSTONG GUSTO KO TO!! HAHA

--btw kaizen is a satisfied nikon owner. just starting in dslr nauna lang akong onti sa knya pro gaganda ng kuha and ang bilis ng improvement ng shots. his d60 is great! and i love the color that nikon produce! thnx paps!

Ala na. Duling na talaga ako kakabasa. Bleusteel pasok!

oppss baka maquote ako ni boss jetzone ang 70-300 pala ay ndi grey lens...

ang hahaba ng mga sagot. dumudugo ilong ko. :D

basta sabi nila " Wla sa PANA yan nasa INDIAN lahat yan" :clap:

IDOL KO RIN SI PAPI THERAPIST! :O

tara paps mag PP nalng tayo.

Basta KANA lang ng KANA!!

paps sunday dala ako laptop shoot tayo nila papi kaiz at pp tayo!

oh eto mga sir sample shot ng a350 using a minolta 50mm 1.7 set at AP, standard color -NO PP

http://www.mekut.info/browse.php/Oi8vbGg0Lmdnc/Gh0LmNvbS9fcl/lNWVpOeDA3c1E/vU2loVVR6RTBa/eEkvQUFBQUFBQ/UFCancvWlRIZD/RSNFlodEEvczQ/wMC9EU0MwMTg5/NC5KUEc_3D/b0/

crop @ 70%
http://www.mekut.info/browse.php/Oi8vbGg1L/mdncGh0Lm/NvbS9fcll/NWVpOeDA3/c1EvU2loV/VNuZkNuLU/kvQUFBQUF/BQUFCanMv/RHNJT04yO/XQxYWMvcz/Y0MC9EU0M/wMTg5NGNy/b3AuSlBH/b0/
still very sharp

sony a350 18-75 kit lens shots @ lucban quezon pahiyas festival '09

kit lens
http://www.mekut.info/browse.php/Oi8vbGgzLmdncG/h0LmNvbS9fcllN/WVpOeDA3c1EvU2/hVSE9lUDBZSUkv/QUFBQUFBQUFCWT/QvSk9fT01ESFRE/ZEUvczU3Ni9EU0/MwOTQ0OS5KUEc_/3D/b0/

kit lens
http://www.mekut.info/browse.php/Oi8vbGg1Lmdnc/Gh0LmNvbS9fcl/lNWVpOeDA3c1E/vU2hVSFRaY0dT/SUkvQUFBQUFBQ/UFCWkEvRXg3dG/pWSmYtQm8vczQ/wMC9EU0MwOTQ4/OC5KUEc_3D/b0/

kit lens
http://www.mekut.info/browse.php/Oi8vbGg0L/mdncGh0Lm/NvbS9fcll/NWVpOeDA3/c1EvU2hVS/GoyY0QwU0/kvQUFBQUF/BQUFCWmcv/cXNFemhFd/WExenMvcz/QwMC9EU0M/wOTA2My5K/UEc_3D/b0/

kit lens
http://www.mekut.info/browse.php/Oi8vbGg2Lmd/ncGh0LmNvbS/9fcllNWVpOe/DA3c1EvU2hV/SDllaXpUSUk/vQUFBQUFBQU/FCYVUvYzc1O/WRrTHYtSTAv/czQwMC9EU0M/wMDAzNS5KUE/c_3D/b0/

now who said sony alpha kit lens is not sharp and noisy??

paps wala lahat ng pinost mo. alang pics. :D