Tuesday, September 23, 2008

Motorcycle drivers are complaining against the new policy of the Land Transportation Office that strictly prohibits the wearing of slippers and sandals when driving to avoid penalty.

The newly issued circular said the violators can be fined P500 for the first offense, P700 for the second offense and P1,000 plus the revocation of the driver’s license for the third violation.

LTO-7 director Raul Aguilos said the new policy is intended to improve the safety of the people who ride motorcycles.

“Usahay god ma-slide man ang atong tiil kon magsinilas og dili na makaayo pagtamak sa brake,” he said.

When the new policy was implemented in Cebu City last week, many motorcycle drivers were caught unaware.

“Nakalitan g’yod ko kay dili man god kaayo ko tigpaminaw ug balita, tagsa ra sab ko mobasa ug news,” said factory worker Elmer Casipong.

The FREEMAN employee Roel Labrador said he was also stopped by traffic enforcers while he was riding his motorcycle because he was not wearing shoes that time, but he said “Maayo man sab na nga pasul-obon na g’yod og sapatos ang mag-drive og motor.”

The administrative order issued by LTO chief Alberto Suansing stressed that the driver should be apprehended if they will not wear any protective devices such as helmet, goggles, protective clothing, and leather boots, gloves and rain suits, heavy jackets and heavy pants.

But aside from the wearing crash helmets and shoes, the traffic enforcers here are not so very strict against the other requirements. Suansing’s directive explained that motorcycle passengers are also required to wear protective gear.

But he stressed that the other requirements such as goggles, protective clothing, leather boots, gloves and heavy pants are applicable only for the riders of big bikes, but the traffic enforcers encouraged the motorcycle riders here not to wear short pants while driving their vehicles.

The drivers or owners of motorcycles are also discouraged from modifying their motorcycles and the LTO is increasing the fines and penalties for those who would violate the rules and regulations.— Rene U. Borromeo/BRP

http://www.philstar.com/archives.php?&aid=20080922182&type=2& <--e2 ung source.., kala ko 1st week pa ng October ung hulihan..:eek:

yet another stupid law.

SINO BANG NAAKSIDENTE DAHIL SA TSINELAS????

meron na ba sa inyo nadisgrasya ang dahilan eh tsinelas?
for several years, lahat ng nagmomotor dito sa pinas tsinelas ang gamit
especially sa probinsya.

meron bang naaksidente dahil sa tsinelas???
wala pa akong nabalitaan na sinisi sa tsinelas ang cause ng aksidente.

Naaksidente ka dahil sa mga sumusunod
-katangahan ng driver
-lasing ang driver
-barumbado magneho ang driver

EDUCATION AND NOT REGULATION. :)

ako i wear shoes kapag long rides.
dahil ayoko magasgasan ang kuko ko incase madisgrasya :)
ayoko rin mapuno ng alikabok paa ko during long rides :)

i wear slipper for city city rides.

slipper or shoes hinde magslide pag-apak mo ng brake.
maliban na lang gasgas na ang rough part ng footbrake pedal.

so hinde tsinelas ang dahil kapag nagslide kundi yung brakepedal na rough area eh gasgas na...

yet another stupid law.

SINO BANG NAAKSIDENTE DAHIL SA TSINELAS????

meron na ba sa inyo nadisgrasya ang dahilan eh tsinelas?
for several years, lahat ng nagmomotor dito sa pinas tsinelas ang gamit
especially sa probinsya.

meron bang naaksidente dahil sa tsinelas???
wala pa akong nabalitaan na sinisi sa tsinelas ang cause ng aksidente.

Naaksidente ka dahil sa mga sumusunod
-katangahan ng driver
-lasing ang driver
-barumbado magneho ang driver

EDUCATION AND NOT REGULATION. :)

ako i wear shoes kapag long rides.
dahil ayoko magasgasan ang kuko ko incase madisgrasya :)
ayoko rin mapuno ng alikabok paa ko during long rides :)

i wear slipper for city city rides.

slipper or shoes hinde magslide pag-apak mo ng brake.
maliban na lang gasgas na ang rough part ng footbrake pedal.

so hinde tsinelas ang dahil kapag nagslide kundi yung brakepedal na rough area eh gasgas na...



Tama po kayo sir, another stupid law ang "tsinelas law" na yan, Damay ko na rin yung "short law".

Paano kung scooter ang gamit ko? hindi naman ginagamit ang dalawang paa ko, dalawang kamay lang gamit ko, twist and go lang, walang dudulas sa pag apak sa kambyo or break. Sa short naman, mahirap po maglaba ng pants, sa long rides ok lang ang shoes and pants, pero sabi nga ni sir snifah, kung malapit lang ang pupuntahan, bakit kelangan pang pumorma.

I really have a violent reaction on this "law".

Bibili lang ako ng pandesal sa may kanto kelangan ko pa magsapatos at mag pants etc.

Maghahatid ka lang sa school na ilang metro lang ang layo mag sasapatos at kung ano ano ka pa.

Bibili ka lang ng isda sa palengke na di ka naman dadaan sa hi-way eh kelangan mo pa mag shoes and everything.

Makikipag kwentuhan ka lang sa kalapit barangay eh dapat naka sapatos ka pa.

Anak ng tokwa talaga. Sana naman isa ito sa masuspend or sana tuluyan maalis.

D ko talaga ma gets ang law na to
First
Hindi naman Hazard ang Tsinelas sa pag ride in fact mas comfortable pa nga ito which is in fact safer habang nag ride.

Shoes wont even be a protection from fracture in case of emergency madalas pa ako mamrublema kapag nasabit yung sintas ng sapatos sa clutch. ( hazard pa nga e )

Baligtad na talaga utak ng gobyerno natin. Kung anu yung stupid yun ang priority. RP: Republic of Pathetic na nga raw sabi ng ilan.

As far as the clothing and apparels are concerned, everything else is allowed...

Ang natitira na lang sa AO at memo na kaka release lang nila is helmet and shoes...

Shorts pwede na ulit...

kakarating ku lang dito sa cebu last monday... and my friends told me na bawal naka tsinelas.. pero ang dami kung nakikitang naka stinelas.... hmmmm i think people will fight for thier right as long as it does not affetct anyone on the road... and i think wearing slippers will not harm anyone:D

i still remember years back when i had a tricycle and occasionally ako ang lumalabas when i am on vacation sa pinas. one time iyong LTO operatives with the assistance of local police force, pinara ang lahat ng tricycle at inipon sa aming munisipyo to conduct safety awareness briefing and verification of licenses and MC documents. as far as i can remember that was year 1983 and as per LTO regulation during that time slippers are not allowed for tricycle drivers. not so sure if this regulation still exist or it was already amended.

Huh? You are not making sense. Even simple leather boots will go a very long way in preventing your dangling limbs from receiving unwanted fractures, cuts, grazes, soft tissue damage, and road rash arising from "minor scrapes and bangs". Much better protection comes in the form of feet that are wrapped in proper riding boots: hard leather, steel inserts, ABS plastics, mesh, and so on. Your exposed feet are no match against 'the world' around you. Don't kid yourself on this point. Sure you can still break bones even with the best protection humankind can make, but you are far less likely to do so statistically.

Not all of us can afford the latter, not all of us even want protective equipment. I support your freedom in that regard, but don't make stuff up to support an assertion that comfort begets safety. It just isn't so.

Accidents happen with or without our influence, every person that rides a motorbike has either had one, or is slotted in the queue awaiting their turn.

Take me for example, I'm the best rider in the world, by a long margin, yet I've had more accidents than I would ever care to count or admit to :-) Fortunately I've lived and learned that I don't actually know anything, and I'm just not as great as I think I am. I am fallible, I make mistakes. And being the best in the world was actually a joke. I'm mediocre. Bottom 2 percent probably :-)



D ko talaga ma gets ang law na to
First
Hindi naman Hazard ang Tsinelas sa pag ride in fact mas comfortable pa nga ito which is in fact safer habang nag ride.

Shoes wont even be a protection from fracture in case of emergency madalas pa ako mamrublema kapag nasabit yung sintas ng sapatos sa clutch. ( hazard pa nga e )

Baligtad na talaga utak ng gobyerno natin. Kung anu yung stupid yun ang priority. RP: Republic of Pathetic na nga raw sabi ng ilan.

D ko talaga ma gets ang law na to
First
Hindi naman Hazard ang Tsinelas sa pag ride in fact mas comfortable pa nga (?)ito which is in fact safer habang nag ride(?).

Shoes wont even be a protection from fracture in case of emergency madalas pa ako mamrublema kapag nasabit yung sintas ng sapatos sa clutch(?). ( hazard pa nga e )

Baligtad na talaga utak ng gobyerno natin(?). Kung anu yung stupid yun ang priority. RP: Republic of Pathetic na nga raw sabi ng ilan.
today's youth(riders), question lang po...
-how will tsinelas be more comfortable while riding? the sole, keep on dangling and flapping pag inaangat mo ang paa mo!!!
-mas madali pong sumabit ang tsinelas, dahil usually po ay loose ang pagkakasuot natin dito, at hindi po lahat ng sapatos(para po sa nakalimot na ng itsura ng sapatos) ay may "sintas"! meron pong de-strap at mokasin...
-mas madulas po ang tsinelas pag nabasa at mas madaling mahubad sa paa...

PAYO LANG PO NG ISANG NAKAKATANDA! riding since 1972 up to present...

today's youth(riders), question lang po...
-how will tsinelas be more comfortable while riding? the sole, keep on dangling and flapping pag inaangat mo ang paa mo!!!
-mas madali pong sumabit ang tsinelas, dahil usually po ay loose ang pagkakasuot natin dito, at hindi po lahat ng sapatos(para po sa nakalimot na ng itsura ng sapatos) ay may "sintas"! meron pong de-strap at mokasin...
-mas madulas po ang tsinelas pag nabasa at mas madaling mahubad sa paa...

PAYO LANG PO NG ISANG NAKAKATANDA! riding since 1972 up to present...


if my father is alive, this would be the same words and more!!! i just don't really understand how people can think of comfort over safety (most of the time it ain't comfortable at all) and of freedom yet risking their very own life.

yet another stupid law.

SINO BANG NAAKSIDENTE DAHIL SA TSINELAS????

meron na ba sa inyo nadisgrasya ang dahilan eh tsinelas?
for several years, lahat ng nagmomotor dito sa pinas tsinelas ang gamit
especially sa probinsya.

meron bang naaksidente dahil sa tsinelas???
wala pa akong nabalitaan na sinisi sa tsinelas ang cause ng aksidente.

Naaksidente ka dahil sa mga sumusunod
-katangahan ng driver
-lasing ang driver
-barumbado magneho ang driver

EDUCATION AND NOT REGULATION. :)

ako i wear shoes kapag long rides.
dahil ayoko magasgasan ang kuko ko incase madisgrasya :)
ayoko rin mapuno ng alikabok paa ko during long rides :)

i wear slipper for city city rides.

slipper or shoes hinde magslide pag-apak mo ng brake.
maliban na lang gasgas na ang rough part ng footbrake pedal.

so hinde tsinelas ang dahil kapag nagslide kundi yung brakepedal na rough area eh gasgas na...

ang puso mo vrad ang puso baka masampal ka ni esmi ng tsipepen...hik hik

As far as the clothing and apparels are concerned, everything else is allowed...

Ang natitira na lang sa AO at memo na kaka release lang nila is helmet and shoes...

Shorts pwede na ulit...

Again, thanks for the info sir. :s

today's youth(riders), question lang po...
-how will tsinelas be more comfortable while riding? the sole, keep on dangling and flapping pag inaangat mo ang paa mo!!!
-mas madali pong sumabit ang tsinelas, dahil usually po ay loose ang pagkakasuot natin dito, at hindi po lahat ng sapatos(para po sa nakalimot na ng itsura ng sapatos) ay may "sintas"! meron pong de-strap at mokasin...
-mas madulas po ang tsinelas pag nabasa at mas madaling mahubad sa paa...

PAYO LANG PO NG ISANG NAKAKATANDA! riding since 1972 up to present...



:*eh manong dun po sa pag nabasa ang tsinilas ay madulas ...d namn po madulas ang tsinilas pag nabasa...kc natry ko kagabe umuulan tas naka tsinilas lang ako d naman madulas..........try nyo....pewo un rubber na tsinilas..ung mumurahin lang ^_^ un lang kaya ko hehhehehehe........

at tsaka pag nakasapatos tas umuulan parang mag aalinlangan kang tumapak sa mga matubig na daan baka mabasa sapatos mo......lalo na ung iba pag tumatapak sa may tubig na daan inaangat nila paa nila baka mabasa sapatos....ehh d kaltas na yun sa balanse ng isang rider...tsaka mawawala atenttion nya sa daan nasa sapatos ng nalang baka mabasa eh.......yun lang po......

Peace PO...Ride Safe Always

today's youth(riders), question lang po...
-how will tsinelas be more comfortable while riding? the sole, keep on dangling and flapping pag inaangat mo ang paa mo!!!
-mas madali pong sumabit ang tsinelas, dahil usually po ay loose ang pagkakasuot natin dito, at hindi po lahat ng sapatos(para po sa nakalimot na ng itsura ng sapatos) ay may "sintas"! meron pong de-strap at mokasin...
-mas madulas po ang tsinelas pag nabasa at mas madaling mahubad sa paa...

PAYO LANG PO NG ISANG NAKAKATANDA! riding since 1972 up to present...

Dont ge me wrong sir i use shoes whenever i ride across towns, tsinelas and shorts kapg dito dito lang samin.

Sabi nga ng iba kung dyan dyan lang naman ang punta mo bakit ka pa magsapatos di ba.

tsaka sir d ba pag maulan at basang basa na yung sapatos mo ndi ka komportable iba na rin ang balanse mo dahil sa pakiramdam mo sa sapatos.

Besides wala naman po napeperwisyo dahil sa pagsusuot ng tsinelas habang nakamotor, kotong tools lang ito para makakuha ng pera sa mga riders.

:*eh manong dun po sa pag nabasa ang tsinilas ay madulas ...di naman po madulas ang tsinilas pag nabasa...kc(kasi) natry ko kagabe(i) umuulan tapos naka tsinilas lang ako di naman madulas..........try nyo....pew(pero)o un rubber na tsinilas..ung mumurahin lang ^_^ un lang kaya ko hehhehehehe........(mabuti naman po at nakaya ninyong magkaroon ng motor)

at tsaka pag nakasapatos tapos umuulan parang mag aalinlangan kang tumapak sa mga matubig na daan baka mabasa sapatos mo......lalo na ung iba pag tumatapak sa may tubig na daan inaangat nila paa nila baka mabasa sapatos....ehh d kaltas na yun sa balanse ng isang rider...tsaka mawawala atenttion nya sa daan nasa sapatos ng nalang baka mabasa eh.......yun lang po......

Peace PO...Ride Safe Always



Dont ge me wrong sir i use shoes whenever i ride across towns, tsinelas and shorts kapg dito dito lang samin.

Sabi nga ng iba kung dyan dyan lang naman ang punta mo bakit ka pa magsapatos di ba.

tsaka sir d ba pag maulan at basang basa na yung sapatos mo ndi ka komportable iba na rin ang balanse mo dahil sa pakiramdam mo sa sapatos.

Besides wala naman po napeperwisyo dahil sa pagsusuot ng tsinelas habang nakamotor, kotong tools lang ito para makakuha ng pera sa mga riders.just in case of a "minor" skid, paa po natin ang una nating depensa... pag narecover mo na ang balanse mo ay OK na po... paano naman po kung nahubad, napigtas, o sumabit sa footpegs osa kambyo o sa brakes ang tsinelas at natanggal??? tuloy-tuloy na po ang skid/semplang! papano namn po yung mga kasunod mo na walang kamalay-malay sayo? sila pa po ang lalabas na may kasalanan kapag nasagasaan ka nila!

baka sakali po na hindi madulas ang tsinelas na basa sa kalye... pero sigurado po ako na madulas ang basang paa sa tsinelas! and one more thing, bihira po ang mga bikers na nagtitiyaga sa ulan... karamihan po ng MAIINGAT na bikers ay sumisilong pag umuulan...

what i'm talking about is, yung mga nakakasabay ko sa Roxas Blvd., Macapagal Blvd., EDSA, etc.!!! nakapagsuot na sila ng helmet, jacket, gloves, pants, pero nakakalimutan pa nila ang magsapatos!?!?!? BHHAAAKEEETTT????? di ba sila sanay ng nakasapatos o gusto lang sumuway sa tama? bakit ba tayo nagsusuot ng jackey at gloves? bakit ba gumagamit tayo ng pngsapin sa kamay pag humahawak sa mainit na bagay???

baka sakali po na hindi madulas ang tsinelas na basa sa kalye... pero sigurado po ako na madulas ang basang paa sa tsinelas! and one more thing, bihira po ang mga bikers na nagtitiyaga sa ulan... karamihan po ng MAIINGAT na bikers ay sumisilong pag umuulan...

what i'm talking about is, yung mga nakakasabay ko sa Roxas Blvd., Macapagal Blvd., EDSA, etc.!!! nakapagsuot na sila ng helmet, jacket, gloves, pants, pero nakakalimutan pa nila ang magsapatos!?!?!? BHHAAAKEEETTT????? di ba sila sanay ng nakasapatos o gusto lang sumuway sa tama? bakit ba tayo nagsusuot ng jackey at gloves? bakit ba gumagamit tayo ng pngsapin sa kamay pag humahawak sa mainit na bagay???

I have rest my case na.

Siguro nga tama sila na safe sila sa sinelas kesa magsapatos

Kanya kanya yan e, basta ako mas comportable pag nakasapatos.

So magsinelas na lang kayo

i've been riding my mc going to work everyday rain or shine (even during typhoons) as much as i would like to have a pair of all-weather riding boots (if there is one) i surely cant afford it.

so i wear what suits me best depending on circumstances:

pag malapit lang (hatid skul, bili sa palengke) opkors slippers

pag umuulan, slippers pa rin. tried using bota and shoes. dumudulas yung bota at uncomfortable naman ung shoes pag pinasok na ng tubig, lalo pag baha

also tried na magsuot ng plastic bag to prevent my shoes from getting wet, pero mas delikado kasi super dulas talaga

i agree with sir snifah - education instead of regulation. dapat common sense pa rin talaga but i not sure if our govt officials and traffic enforcers still have that trait

I have rest my case na.

Siguro nga tama sila na safe sila sa sinelas kesa magsapatos

Kanya kanya yan e, basta ako mas comportable pag nakasapatos.

So magsinelas na lang kayo
same here!

i've been riding my mc going to work everyday rain or shine (even during typhoons) as much as i would like to have a pair of all-weather riding boots (if there is one) i surely cant afford it.

so i wear what suits me best depending on circumstances:

pag malapit lang (hatid skul, bili sa palengke) opkors slippers

pag umuulan, slippers pa rin. tried using bota and shoes. dumudulas yung bota at uncomfortable naman ung shoes pag pinasok na ng tubig, lalo pag baha

also tried na magsuot ng plastic bag to prevent my shoes from getting wet, pero mas delikado kasi super dulas talaga

i agree with sir snifah - education instead of regulation. dapat common sense pa rin talaga but i not sure if our govt officials and traffic enforcers still have that trait
kung walang regulations at common sense na lang, kawawa naman ang mas nakararami! just imagine, kung walang "no left turn", "speed limit", traffic light. etc. at common sense na lang ang gagamitin!!!! "anarchy" na po yata ang mangyayari at kanya-kanya na! i now, rest my case, too!!! :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

today's youth(riders), question lang po...
-how will tsinelas be more comfortable while riding? the sole, keep on dangling and flapping pag inaangat mo ang paa mo!!!
-mas madali pong sumabit ang tsinelas, dahil usually po ay loose ang pagkakasuot natin dito, at hindi po lahat ng sapatos(para po sa nakalimot na ng itsura ng sapatos) ay may "sintas"! meron pong de-strap at mokasin...
-mas madulas po ang tsinelas pag nabasa at mas madaling mahubad sa paa...

PAYO LANG PO NG ISANG NAKAKATANDA! riding since 1972 up to present...

sir, depende na po ito sa driver...and it doesnt matter kung baguhan o matagal na ang isang rider sa pagmamaneho...bawat isa, may kanya-kanyang comfortability...

in my experience sa pagdridrive ng motor.., mas dumudulas sa mga gear lever at brake pag basa yung sneakers ko, kesa sa tsinelas kong HAVANAS...:D hindi rin ako comfortable magsuot ng mga leather shoes at boots.., sumasakit paa ko, at madalas akong masugatan..which bother me kung nagmamaneho ako...disadvantage lang ng tsinelas para saken ay pag long ride, masakit yung mga maliliit na bato pag tumatalsik sa paa, lalo na pag mabuhangin yung daan...pero city driving, never naging disadvantage ang tsinelas saken, besides i find it advantage over my sneakers based on my personal experience...

wearing my "havanas" or shoes generally doesn't affect my driving style...minor bruises and injuries ay kasama talaga yan pag sumemplang ka..mas maiiwasan ito kung magiging maingat ka at may road courtesy sa pagmamaneho...so as long as hindi ito nakakaapekto sa safety ng iba, for me..., that law is "stupid"...IMO

mahirap maglaba at magpatuyo ng sneakers pag tag-ulan...:D

Its not the slippers that CAUSES Accident ...

But common sense it is ... when a rider spills, and he's on his slippers, there's a big chance that the feet or the toes are 100% exposed to injuries.

So why be against it?


On an accident, you can tuck your arms and hands and fingers tightly against your chest ... but the feet and toes? I don't think so.

i thought the topic of this thread was about the wearing slippers when riding?

there are more than enough rules and regulations for riders to be safe on the road, if only those rules were properly implemented and adhered to, the issue of wearing slippers when riding would be very much trivial..

common sense is really uncommon these days.. tsk tsk

i still remember years back when i had a tricycle and occasionally ako ang lumalabas when i am on vacation sa pinas. one time iyong LTO operatives with the assistance of local police force, pinara ang lahat ng tricycle at inipon sa aming munisipyo to conduct safety awareness briefing and verification of licenses and MC documents. as far as i can remember that was year 1983 and as per LTO regulation during that time slippers are not allowed for tricycle drivers. not so sure if this regulation still exist or it was already amended.

Its not the slippers that CAUSES Accident ...

But common sense it is ... when a rider spills, and he's on his slippers, there's a big chance that the feet or the toes are 100% exposed to injuries.

So why be against it?


On an accident, you can tuck your arms and hands and fingers tightly against your chest ... but the feet and toes? I don't think so.

thanks for taking over Sirs rjmvirgotaurus and Wolver888! i'm really resting my case on this! iba na ang panahon ngayon, mahirap nang paliwanagan ang kabataan ngayon... ang mali ay nagiging tama, at ang tama ay nagiging mali pag ginusto nila!!! :?:?:?


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thanks for taking over Sirs rjmvirgotaurus and Wolver888! i'm really resting my case on this! iba na ang panahon ngayon, mahirap nang paliwanagan ang kabataan ngayon... ang mali ay nagiging tama, at ang tama ay nagiging mali pag ginusto nila!!! :?:?


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pasensya na sir jesspadua, don't be what we call "pusong mamon"... youth nowadays are like that, ESPECIALLY PINOY YOUTH at that!!! they don't want to be "DICTATED" on what they are supposed to do! they want free individual "choice", which sometimes are irrational... take a peek at my post in another thread...

I got your point there sir! but i think the law is not "dictating on us", but "REQUIRING" us to do so! but inspite of the existing law, there are many, or even most, who always defy any kind of law... individual choice is their excuse!!! maraming gustong sumuway sa utos/batas, which were refered to, before as "mga suway-utos" or "mga saway-utos"!!! and which are now, "pasaways"!!! they don't want to follow orders, rules, regulations, laws, etc.!!! they don't want to be "DICTATED"!?!?!?

just imagine, a community without rules or laws, and everyone rely on individual "choices"? like there's no traffic rules, only individual choices!!! "anarchy and chaos" ang tawag doon at rambulan na lang sa kalye, kasi walang magbibigay sa iba(pinoy style=ako muna, bahala na kayo sa sarili ninyo). ... ??? :?:?:?

Tsinilas law? I'm not against with this as long as defined ito. Long rides of course you should wear boots or shoes. Short rides like less than 100 meters dina siguro kailangan. Wala pa akong nakilalang tao na even less than 100 meter rides ay magsuot talaga ng shoes. Ewan ko lang si Jesspaduabaka nga ginagawa nya! yan lang po!

Tsinilas law? I'm not against with this as long as defined ito. Long rides of course you should wear boots or shoes. Short rides like less than 100 meters dina siguro kailangan. Wala pa akong nakilalang tao na even less than 100 meter rides ay magsuot talaga ng shoes. Ewan ko lang si Jesspaduabaka nga ginagawa nya! yan lang po!
kawawa naman si sir jesspadua, sarcastically quoted pa siya! siguro po, people with normal IQ will not ride a bike pag less than 100 meters lang... who among you, in his right mind, will bother to look for the bike's key, start your bike, consume high priced gasoline, park your bike in a safe place and back again, kung less than 10 houses with 10 meters frontage lang ang pupuntahan ninyo??????? :?:?:? wala pang 3 minutes walk yun!!! unless, you just want to show off na may motor na kayo!!!!

MALAKI NA TALAGA ANG NAGING HARMFUL EFFECT NG AIR POLLUTION SA UTAK NG KABATAAN NGAYON!!! kaya siguro po ay Let's Support the Anti-Pollution Campaign in order to solve these problems!!!

eh yung Crocs? bawal din ba yun?

kasi parang anak ng sapatos at tsinelas eh.

Tsinilas law? I'm not against with this as long as defined ito. Long rides of course you should wear boots or shoes. Short rides like less than 100 meters dina siguro kailangan. Wala pa akong nakilalang tao na even less than 100 meter rides ay magsuot talaga ng shoes. Ewan ko lang si Jesspadua baka nga ginagawa nya! yan lang po!

last na last na po talaga! i just can't help but reply to this, because my name was specifically mentioned by mr. UltraSonic!

you're very right, sir! ginagawa ko po talaga ito! i do, wear my shoes in going to my factory/shop which is about a couple of blocks away from my house in our subdivision... i walk though i have a motorbike and cars, kasi po ay malapit lang, around 100 meters! but, i wear shoes to "protect" my feet from possibilities na makatalisod ako ng bato(masakit sa paa iyon) or baka may matapakan o matalisod ako na hard objects sa shop! hindi po ba na natural lang po sa ating mga merong "common sense" na maging protective sa sarili??? and aside from being "self-protective", i also do, set a good example to my employees being the president/owner of my corporation... last na po ito talaga! ayoko na, and i hope you won't learn it the hardest way...



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para po sakin oks naman yung shoes at wag slippers...for our safety rin naman yun....kahit yung shoes na parang vans lang or yung advan..oks na yun kahit nakashorts or patns pwede...basta wag lang yung magkakaaway yung kulay ha...hehehe

You will always hear and read in the testimonials from both seasoned and novice riders on how their footwear (prescribed riding shoes) aside from their helmet protected them from further injury during an accident.

The obvious rationale behind the said regulation is to protect and ensure the safety of a rider and I don't know why some people refuse to accept or fail to comprehend it.

P.S. : do you know that in some advanced and more civilized places in the world,operating a bicycle or even a skateboard requires the operator to wear the proper safety gear?

thanks for taking over Sirs rjmvirgotaurus and Wolver888! i'm really resting my case on this! iba na ang panahon ngayon, mahirap nang paliwanagan ang kabataan ngayon... ang mali ay nagiging tama, at ang tama ay nagiging mali pag ginusto nila!!!


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"ang mali ng mga matatanda, ay nagiging tama sa mata ng bata"...:)

sus, sangkatutak na ang batas, hindi lang naiimplementa ng maayos...minsan, kung sino pa tong nagiimplementa sila pa tong lumalabag...:crazy: hindi mo rin mapagsabihan, kasi nga mas nakatataas or mas matanda...at lalabas ka pa ring mali, kasi bata ka pa..:?:?


final message..."hindi porke mas nakatatanda..., mas alam nila or alam nila lahat ng makabubuti sa nakababata..." unless sanggol or atleast below 16 years old...you can educate, but i don't think you can mandate them...;) IMHO

ang alam ku habang patanda na ang isang tao. bumabalik ang pag iisip nito sa pag ka bata... kasabihan lang naman... pero tingin ku totoo..

simple lang ang sagot dito

ang pilipinas ay TSINELAS country
yan ang sinusuot ng nakararaming tao.

Ang tsinelas ay hinde nakaka perwisyo sa ibang tao.
bakit mandatory?

Ang tsinelas ay hinde cause / sanhi ng aksidente.
bakit i regulate?

ang alak, katangahan ng driver ang sanhi ng aksidente.
yan dapat pagtoonan ng pansin.
dapat isang taon kulong ang drunk driving.

up to this time, wala pa akong alam na study or statistics
na TSINELAS ang dahilan sa aksidente

Up to this time, wala pa akong narinig na sinisi ang tsinelas
sa aksidente

Upto this time wala pa rin akong naririnig na after na aksidente sya,
putok ang ulo, gasgas ang siko tuhod, sinabi nya sa sarili nya
Bakit kasi ako nag tsinelas?

Upto this time wala pa rin akong naririnig na after na aksidente sya,
aray ko po ang sakit ng kuko ko.. (at hinde pinansin ang putok na ulo, braso, tuhod, siko)
mas may care pa sya sa kanyang kuko...


Kung ikaw ma aksidente, Tuhod, siko, braso, ulo ang major
injured part ng body at hinde ang KUKO :)

kawawa na man si mr. islander hari ng tibay :D

GET RID OF THE STUPID TSINELAS LAW.

I have rest my case na.

Siguro nga tama sila na safe sila sa sinelas kesa magsapatos

Kanya kanya yan e, basta ako mas comportable pag nakasapatos.

So magsinelas na lang kayo

yes papa comfortable ka sa shoes kasi nasa ibang bansa ka.
cguro walang tsinelas dyan....
or hinde common na tsinelas ang gamit sa paglabas ng bahay,
shopping, mamalengke... lahat naka shoes.
so sanay ka na shoes,
at siguro nakakahiya mag tsinelas dyan kung lumabas ka ng bahay.

dito kasi sa pinas, tsinelas ang common footwear ng tao.
especially outside of metro manila.

On the other hand,
MOST BIGBIKERS, cgruo 99.99% na bigbike ang gamit nilang motor
eh nagsasapatos sila... kasi parang hinde bagay
mag tsinelas tapos bigbike ang motor mo..

parang kung sa damit pa...
naka kurbata ka, naka polo, tapos mag tsinelas ka, diba panget tingnan?

so i can see the reason why you are in favor of MANDATORY NO TSINELAS while riding..


note:
no offense ha, exchange of ideas lang tayo mga papi...

what i'm talking about is, yung mga nakakasabay ko sa Roxas Blvd., Macapagal Blvd., EDSA, etc.!!! nakapagsuot na sila ng helmet, jacket, gloves, pants, pero nakakalimutan pa nila ang magsapatos!?!?!? BHHAAAKEEETTT????? di ba sila sanay ng nakasapatos o gusto lang sumuway sa tama? bakit ba tayo nagsusuot ng jackey at gloves?

kasi ang pag suot tsinelas hinde nakakamatay.


bakit ba gumagamit tayo ng pngsapin sa kamay pag humahawak sa mainit na bagay???
kasi pag hinde ka gumamit ng pangsapin, 100% sigurado mapapaso ka..

while wearing tsinelas when riding, 1% chance lang magasgas ang kuko mo. :D



note:
no offense ha, exchange of ideas/opinions lang tayo mga papi...

snifah you have it all out of context, the problem is far from simple, though you hit on some very good points about Philippine culture and its disdain for change.

The thrust of this law has nothing to say about thongs (I'm Australian and this is what we call open footwear) or sandals being the cause of accidents. They don't, as a rule, factor in to the cause of many accidents at all, and nobody in government is saying that they do. Exposed feet absolutely do factor in to the results of many accident reports documented in hospitals though.

The actual issue is this: The government doesn't want to pay for anything it doesn't have to. Period...

Exposed feet end up as mashed feet. We can safely extrapolate the actual meaning from government to be: "We, the people of the Philippines, do not want to pay for ~your~ accident, and because ~you~ wont do anything to lower the potential for personal injury and cost to the state. Instead we will implement a law that imposes some restrictions on how ~you~ use your motorbike on public roads. We don't care why you wont wear better footwear, but we will impose fines for lack of compliance since this will ultimately lower public expenditure."

Agree or disagree, that about sums up what many government officials are saying when you take the time to speak with them. It's not a "new way to make more money" at all, far from it, it's a way to free up some cash for better use.

Personally I agree with this particular law and hope it gets enforced for the right reasons, but if you are willing to pony up for your own medical bills and slap your signature on a document that absolves society (and by extension, government) of all costs arising through accident when they are not at fault, so be it, you absolutely can and should be free to do as you please. Up to and including riding entirely naked. It'd be simplistic to implement as an optional mark on your license.

kawawa naman si sir jesspadua, sarcastically quoted pa siya! [SIZE="5"][B]siguro po, people with normal IQ will not ride a bike pag less than 100 meters lang... who among you, in his right mind, will bother to look for the bike's key, start your bike, consume high priced gasoline, park your bike in a safe place and back again, kung less than 10 houses with 10 meters frontage lang ang pupuntahan ninyo??????? wala pang 3 minutes walk yun!!! unless, you just want to show off na may motor na kayo!!!!

i do...thats one of the reason kung bakit ako may motor...baket ako maglalakad kung may motor naman? unless katabi lang ng bahay or nasa tawiran lang namin yung pupuntahan ko pero gaya ng sinabi mo, below 100 meters...so kung nasa 50 meters yung pupuntahan ko, at tinatamad ako maglakad, abnormal na pala IQ ko kung magmomotor ako...:crazy:

[FONT="Century Gothic"][COLOR="Black"]MALAKI NA TALAGA ANG NAGING HARMFUL EFFECT NG AIR POLLUTION SA UTAK NG KABATAAN NGAYON!!! kaya siguro po ay Let's Support the Anti-Pollution Campaign in order to solve these problems!!!

i don't really understand kung baket kelangan pang sabihin ang mga to..:? who will stop you from wearing your "nike" shoes going to your palengke, barbero or suking tindahan while riding your mc kung hindi man magiging mandatory ang pagsuot ng tsinelas?:?:crazy:

you don't have to say na "hangin lang ang laman ng utak ng mga taong tumataliwas sa paniniwala at alam mong tama..." it doesn't affect you anyway kung nakatsinelas man yung mga ibang riders sa daan...so why bother yourself?

siguro naman, karamihan ng mga anti-mandatory dito eh nagsusuot din naman ng sapatos kung kinakailangan...

kung concern ka sa mga paa ng bawat riders.., baket hindi ka mag offer ng free FOOT SPA sa mga riders ng MC? :clap:

The actual issue is this: The government doesn't want to pay for anything it doesn't have to. Period...


bro i just hope your statement above is TRUE here in Phils.
in australia, The Government does contribute or pay for your hospital bills
when theres accident.

so austrilian government can dictate the riders. The government has
the right to have mandatory no tsinelas law. because australian govt
pay for the hospital bills.


HERE IN PHILS.

The govt DONT pay a single cent for the hospital bills when theres an accident.

Why in the world they will implement Mandatory tsinelas law?
government doesnt pay me anything to my hospital bills in case
i met an accident.

so i hope you can get my point, The phil govt dont have the right to
dictate us riders on actions that do not pose risks/harm to other persons.

since you are in philippines, can you provide me statistics that shows
tsinelas/thongs is the cause of accidents.

btw, "thongs" sexy wear can cause accident,
other drivers/riders will focus their attention to the driver wearing "thongs" (sexy wear) so thats a No No hehehe

Yan ang gusto ng LTO, ang mag-away away ang mga riders! Bata man o matanda.

mukhang nagtatagumpay sila.

share ko lang ito....

Last time nagpunta ako ng Cubao... i was just wearing slipper tapos medyas...

dumaan ako EDSA.... aray ko!!!! hindi ako naaksidente nor natumba o sumayad.... mga spalto tumatama sa paa ko... masakit...

That time palagi na ako naka sapatos.

I am not against this law. IMHO

share ko lang ito....

Last time nagpunta ako ng Cubao... i was just wearing slipper tapos medyas...

dumaan ako EDSA.... aray ko!!!! hindi ako naaksidente nor natumba o sumayad.... mga spalto tumatama sa paa ko... masakit...

That time palagi na ako naka sapatos.

I am not against this law. IMHO
you're a biker by heart, sir! you learn through your own experience! how about the others? h'wag naman sana the hardest way or most painful way sila matuto! like one of our members here in cavite! they gauged their bikes along aguinaldo hi-way... nakatsinelas yung isa! nag-gitgitan at napadikit yung nakatsinelas sa gutter dahil lowered ang bike nya! wakwak ang side ng right foot niya! dinala namin sa hospital at sinabihang kung nakasapatos lang siya ay baka sakaling yun sapatos lang nya ang nawarak... nag illegal race pa sila, kaya pwera na sila pareho sa club! nakakasira ng pangalan ng club at ng reputation ng bikers(kaya may katuwirang i-discriminate tayo ng ibang tao)...

hindi nga "DAHILAN" ng accident ang tsinelas, pero. in case na ma-aksidente ka ay meron kang kahit kaunting "proteksyon" para sa sarili at nadadamay/napeperhuwisyo din ang mga tutulong sa iyo...

also heard XRM lowered daw... naka sinelas.... nag bangking.... tanggal ang hingliliit niya....

hindi nga "DAHILAN" ng accident ang tsinelas, pero. in case na ma-aksidente ka ay meron kang kahit kaunting "proteksyon" para sa sarili ...


just to reiterate...

nakakatawa naman yung iba dito... tulad ng.... yung tsinelas ay hindi nagiging sanhi ng aksidente..bakit yung helmet ba nagiging cause ng aksidente? yung tisnelas ay hindi nakakamatay...bakit yung gloves ba nakakamatay or yung jacket or yung helmet? siguro di pa nila naeexperience kung anu yung pakiramdam ng nakatsinelas na masmomotor tapos (wag naman sana) sumabit sa bato or sa anu mang bagay at mag cause ng pag semplang...baka sa susunod sabihin nyo..."SANA NAGSAPATOS NALANG AKO para hindi nasugat yung paa ko" REMEMBER YUNG KADALASANG MGA AKSIDENTENG NGYAYARI AY KUNG SAAN MALAPIT PA TAYO SA BAHAY OR PUPUNTAHAN NATIN...


lagi kasi natin iniisp na" malapit lang naman bakit pako maghehelmet or malapit lang naman bakit ako magsasapatos" WAPAK! ayan yung aksidente...aray ko...


kasi sa long ride dun lang tayo mas nagiging maingat e..bakit? kasi di natin kilala yung mga tao or di tayo sanay sa lugar at baka may naghuhuling mga taga LTO... tama po ba ako?

i'm an emergency nurse dito sa hospital samin... meron ngang napuputulan ng daliri sa paa... alam nyo kung anung part? yung pinakamaliit kadalasan..lalo na kung sa bang gaan...exposed kasi yung paa natin...at mga kapatid...hindi lang po KUKO ang parte ng paa natin...meron din mga daliri, sakong at kung anu ano pa...

marami rami na akong nakikitang naaksidente... pwede ka nga magas gasan sa ibang parte ng katawan pero diba mas ok narin kung mababawasan yung gas gas mo or sugat mo kung nakasapatos ka??? tawad mo na yung magiging injury mo sa paa kung nakasapatos ka...

tsaka pangit din nakikita yung tsinelas..pucha...pagbaba mo ng MC mo..namumuti yung paa mo sa alikabok...


kahit yung parang sa VANS lang or yung sa ADVAN na shoes oks na rin yun e... comfy na at pwede sa shorts at pants...


di ba mas ok din na kahit nagsemplang ka ay makakapag ride ka ulit kinabukasan? hindi yung, di mo magamit yung motor mo dahil nung nagsemplang ka gumasgas yung paa mo sa daan at sugat yung mga daliri mo..ayun sige boy pagaling ka muna sa inyo hanggat umiika ka...

share ko lang ito....

Last time nagpunta ako ng Cubao... i was just wearing slipper tapos medyas...

dumaan ako EDSA.... aray ko!!!! hindi ako naaksidente nor natumba o sumayad.... mga spalto tumatama sa paa ko... masakit...

That time palagi na ako naka sapatos.

I am not against this law. IMHO

eto ang gusto ko sanang magyari.
nag shoes ka kasi ITS YOUR CHOICE
at HINDE DIKTA NG LTO.

dahil dyan

you are 100% convicted na mag shoes ka.
mas FIRM ang iyung conviction na mag shoes ka.

unlike sa MANDATORY no tsinelas law
nag shoe shoes ka dahil sa batas at hinde dahil sa sarili mong choice.

best example yan... Learn by experience is MORE EFFECTIVE
than MANDATORY which is you dont learn.

so dapat walang MANDATORY tsinelas law
para mas firm and convicted ang riders at malaman nila kung ano ang bagay sa kanila.

Teach them how to fish
and not just giving them fish.

MANDATORY is like that you are just giving them fish.
why not let them LEARN?

perfectly got your point bro snifah... and just like what you have mentioned, we're just exchanging ideas here.

Anyways, as for me naman, YUP! nag sapatos ako by choice kasi nga base sa experience ko. And Hopefully others will learn as well base from my own mistake. (I dont know if some guys here will call it a mistake).

Just like what others mentioned, meron ng nasaktan or worst naputulan ng daliri.... maliit na bagay yung nagasgasan ng paa... but the thing here is hihintayin mo pa bang masaktan ka muna before tayo ma convince and mandatory require ourselves na magsapatos.

Share ko lang ang inputs ko about this law...

Others say na "sa kanto lang ako pupunta bibili ng pandesal magsasapatos pa ako?" "eh sa palengke lang ako pupunta magsasapatos pa ako?"

Guys, please don't get me wrong, the issue here is not about kung saan ka pupunta, be it sa kanto, sa palengke, sa burol, sa marilaque, or sa kapitbahay.... the issue is sumakay ka ng motor, you should know your responsibilities. You should know what is required and what not.

Kung sinabi sa batas na maghelmet ka kung sasakay ka sa motor, that means to say from point A to point B.... hindi naman na mentioned doon na "we must wear helmet" except kung sa kanto lang or sa palengke....

for me if this law will help riders na maging safe sa kalsada, I'll agree to it. Yup, andoon na tayo, magiging palabigasan nanaman tayong mga riders at madadagdagan nanaman ang makikita nila butas sa atin dahil sisilipin pati ano ang suot mo sa paa, sapatos ba or tsinelas.... but on the other side of the law... disregard corruption, the law is actually for the safety of all riders....

All, I MEAN LAHAT!!! ng riders can afford to buy a decent slip-on shoes, madaling isuot at madaling hubarin ng mabilisan and will not require you to wear socks kung sa kanto ka lang pupunta... you can afford to buy a motorcycle so definitely you can afford to buy a slip-on.

IMHO. :D

i dont think that LTO should dictate the riders to wear slippers or shoes...


yeah...its for riders safety...
but like what Snifah have said..

this is a tsinelas Country..punta kanto...shoes pa?? i may sound like im against to it..



but NO..

wearing slippers wont hurt anyone but themselves

what riders need is education...

the Do's and Dont's the Risk and Safety...
advantages and disadvantages...


sounds like a child?




sounds funny but i think that what riders need..

ako, di ako pabor sa batas na ito. although I have to admit na may merits ang batas. yung flipflops kasi can cause accidents. may tendency kasi na sumabit sa pegs ang strap ng tsinelas.
as far as I know,(di pa ako nagreresearch tungkol dito) matagal nang batas ito. kahit sa cage, bawal din ang tsinelas. nung bata pa ako, natatandaan ko na nahuli ang family driver namin dahil naka tsinelas lang sya. nataon kasi na nag overheat ang kotse namin noon kaya bumaba sya to check the water level of the radiator. nataon na may pulis na nakatayo sa bangketa. hinuli sya (kinotongan pala hindi hinuli:O)

kung wala man batas na nagbabawal sa pagsuot ng tsinelas, napakadali lang gumawa nyan. marami kasi defense against sa pagsuot ng tsinelas. yung gustong gumawa ng batas can always say na sagabal yan sa proper operation ng mga foot controls ng motor. pag di mo na control ang motor mo, puedeng makaaksidente ka ng iba.

personally , I do ride my scoot even sa distances na less than 100 meters. sobrang convenient kasi. madalas naka shorts, tsinelas at tabo helmet lang ako. I always have a set of keys ng mga most commonly used bikes ko with me kaya palagi ako ready to go. kahit bibili lang ng yosi sa kanto, madalas nagmomotor ako.(that's how lazy i am)