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tribaljon
September 19th, 2008, 01:57 PM
:g Sa mga Motorcycle riders na nakashorts o naka slippers - paalala lang po "HINDI PO KALABAW" ang sinasakyan nyo. :O

Proven na po ang pagsusuot ng sinelas at naka shorts habang nagmomotor ay UNSAFE at syempre dapat naka HELMET.

Hangga't maaari sana ay naka STEEL TOE para kahit magulungan ng gulong okey lang, na-experienced ko na kasi at buti na lang naka steel toe ako, kaya no effect yung gulong ng 4-wheels. Sa short naman yung BURNS o pagkapaso - tagal gumaling nyan.

Nang ipatupad ko sa 777BC of East District ang mga fines & penalties regarding proper attire ng mga riders ay merong ilang nagcomment pero karamihan ay natuwa at willing na iimprove pa ang mga patakaran namin sa proper attire at uniforms. Ang ilan sa mga RULES & REGULATIONS namin ay galing din sa LTO pero ang fines ay maliit lang at ang pupuntahan nito ay sa Biker's Fund.

Dun sa mga nag Comment, sabi nila masyado daw mahigpit, I replied to them "Di bale maging kaunti kami na disiplinado kesa marami naman na mga pasaway, kaya nga bumuo ng Club ay para mabawasan ang mga pasaway sa daan, ngaun kung parehas din sa ibang pasaway ay itigil na ang kalokohang pagtatayo ng Club."

Sa mga Motorcycle Club Starters / Officers / Organizers / Founders / Presidents / Coordinators / Members or whatever you call it, ay sana po wag mawawala ang DISIPLINA at RESPONSIBILIDAD sa atin. Bawasan natin ang mga PASAWAY sa KALSADA.

Thanx & Good Day :*

God Bless us all. :clap:

boylit
September 19th, 2008, 09:31 PM
:g Sa mga Motorcycle riders na nakashorts o naka slippers - paalala lang po "HINDI PO KALABAW" ang sinasakyan nyo. :O

Proven na po ang pagsusuot ng sinelas at naka shorts habang nagmomotor ay UNSAFE at syempre dapat naka HELMET.

Hangga't maaari sana ay naka STEEL TOE para kahit magulungan ng gulong okey lang, na-experienced ko na kasi at buti na lang naka steel toe ako, kaya no effect yung gulong ng 4-wheels. Sa short naman yung BURNS o pagkapaso - tagal gumaling nyan.

Nang ipatupad ko sa 777BC of East District ang mga fines & penalties regarding proper attire ng mga riders ay merong ilang nagcomment pero karamihan ay natuwa at willing na iimprove pa ang mga patakaran namin sa proper attire at uniforms. Ang ilan sa mga RULES & REGULATIONS namin ay galing din sa LTO pero ang fines ay maliit lang at ang pupuntahan nito ay sa Biker's Fund.

Dun sa mga nag Comment, sabi nila masyado daw mahigpit, I replied to them "Di bale maging kaunti kami na disiplinado kesa marami naman na mga pasaway, kaya nga bumuo ng Club ay para mabawasan ang mga pasaway sa daan, ngaun kung parehas din sa ibang pasaway ay itigil na ang kalokohang pagtatayo ng Club."

Sa mga Motorcycle Club Starters / Officers / Organizers / Founders / Presidents / Coordinators / Members or whatever you call it, ay sana po wag mawawala ang DISIPLINA at RESPONSIBILIDAD sa atin. Bawasan natin ang mga PASAWAY sa KALSADA.

Thanx & Good Day :*

God Bless us all. :clap:
i see no problem if someone wants to ride in shorts or slippers... if they crash and rash themselves, that's their call...

does riding with full gear make one a better rider???
does riding with full gear make one safer to other people on the road???
let's take 2 riders:
rider 1 wears full leathers, race boots and a fairly pricey helmet... drives like a fekkin bast@rd though and thinks 150 kph is reasonable speed in edsa...
rider 2 wears shirt, shorts, slippers and shades... keeps to his/her lane... rides within reasonable range of traffic flow... signals and looks before turning into the adjacent lane...

i've seen both kinds of riders on the road... who should be taken out???

basurerongr0i05
September 19th, 2008, 09:47 PM
sir kung pupunta ka lang nmn sa kanto,mag full battle gear pb tau?hindi 2 pagkapilosopo mga sir,pro kung malapit lang nmn pupuntahan ntin at hindi nmn puro highway dadanan ntin,bkit pa db?nasa disiplina nlang ng rider yan.pang long drive/highways/busy highways...un na ang full battle gear.

abercrombie
September 19th, 2008, 10:39 PM
oo nga, pano kung malalapit lang?

pano kung jan lang sa palengke..

pano kung bibili lang ako ng pagkain ng manok, pandesal, suka, etc..

eh alangan namang mag full battle gear pa ko sa ganun kalapit..

ibig sabihin parang kalabaw sinasakyan ko pag ganun.. :eek:

basta il make sure na may helmet ako kahit pa naka short ako..

kanuto123
September 19th, 2008, 10:43 PM
hindi din natin masasabi ang accidente kahit na mabilis or mabagal kang magpatakbo ng mc ...... pero kung sa kanto lang naman para bibili lang ng paminta or vetsin helmet will do .....

devil_101
September 19th, 2008, 10:55 PM
kung tipong palengke ride lang naman. helmet ok na siguro.

ThElEx
September 19th, 2008, 11:23 PM
oo nga kung palengke lang ok na ang helmet,

wally54mc
September 20th, 2008, 12:10 AM
i see no problem if someone wants to ride in shorts or slippers... if they crash and rash themselves, that's their call...

does riding with full gear make one a better rider???
does riding with full gear make one safer to other people on the road???
let's take 2 riders:
rider 1 wears full leathers, race boots and a fairly pricey helmet... drives like a fekkin bast@rd though and thinks 150 kph is reasonable speed in edsa...
rider 2 wears shirt, shorts, slippers and shades... keeps to his/her lane... rides within reasonable range of traffic flow... signals and looks before turning into the adjacent lane...

i've seen both kinds of riders on the road... who should be taken out???

TAMA ka dun bro.. kung gusto ng rider na nka-brief lang dahil bagong bili, walang basagan ng trip!! hndi nman sila hihingi sayo ng pampagamot kpag naaksidente, dba pare? e pano kung nakahilata ka sa sofa tpos naisipan mo pumunta sa kabilang baranggay, mejo malayo kung lalakarin, magastos din kung sasakay pa ng jeep, naisip mo mag motor na lang, kelangan mo pa ba mag helmet, gloves, jacket & pants with elbow, spine, knee protectors kung dadayo ka lang naman sa bilyaran?

PERO.. seriously, malayo o malapit man wala akong nakikitang masama sa batas na yan. their primary objective is our OWN safety. kahit maingat ka at mabagal lang ang takbo mo, hndi ka pa rin exempted sa semplang o aksidente lalo na kung yung kasalubong mo naman ang hindi nag-iingat. may kilala nga ako, itago na lang natin sa pangalang Jared S. Avendano, once upon a time, maingat sya nagmmaneho 40kph takbo nya, may nakasalubong syang truck, bgla na lang syang sumemplang. konting gasgas lang sa tuhod dahil mabagal lang pero putok ulo nya, may tumalsik palang bato na nagulungan nung truck na nakasalubong nya, sakto sa ulo nya. hndi natin mape-predict ang ganung aksidente. malapit lng pupuntahan nya pero kung may helmet sana sya at nka pantalon, bka yung motor lang ang may gasgas.

dagdag porma pa nga yung pagsusuot ng proper attire lalo na kung nsa HIGHWAY. pero kung sa barrio o nayon lang naman, exempted na dapat sa RULES na yun dahil nakakatamad ng konti.

pero hindi naman lahat ng nka-full body armor (rider 1) eh kaskasero..
at hindi naman lahat ng naka beach attire (rider 2) eh ganun kaingat..
meron din namang:
rider 3 wears full leathers, race boots and a fairly pricey helmet... still rides within reasonable range of traffic flow... signals and looks before turning into the adjacent lane...
rider 4 wears shirt, shorts, slippers and shades... drives like a fre@kin' bast@rd though and thinks 150 kph is reasonable speed in the seashore...

that analogy is flawed.. dagdagan natin ng rider 5, rider 6, 7, 8, 9.. maraming klase ng rider..

kahit saang angulo tingnan ang post ni tribaljon, kaligtasan NYA, MO, KO at NATING lahat na mga riders ang pakinabang nito. pero syempre may kanya-kanya nman tayong paraan ng pag-iingat diba. walang masama kung mabuti naman ang hangarin ng nakaisip ng RULES na yan, OK lang kung ulilang lubos ka at walang makakamiss sayo, e pano kung may pamilya ka na umaasa sayo?? RIDE SAFE po!!!

hindi lahat ng RULES & REGULATIONS, nakakainis at masarap suwayin. PERO YUNG AO-AHS-2008-015 about modifications ng LTO, NAKAKAINIS YUN.

NO OFFENSE, JUST MY OPINION, RIDE SAFE.. AND THEY LIVED HAPPILY EVER AFTER.

enes
September 20th, 2008, 01:30 AM
meron akong kilala sumakay sa KALABAW, eh nagwala yung kalabaw, ayun...baldado at lumpo na ngayon...kung baket kasi hindi naghelmet at nagsuot ng mga safety gears...:crazy:

pero gaya ng sabi ng mga ibang forumers...its your attitude kung pano ka magmaneho..anung silbi ng mga mamahaling helmet, knee shin guard, elbow pad etc..kung tumatakbo ka naman ng 150kph at balak mong sungayin yung poste ng meralco ng dahil sa kalasingan o kayabangan? kahit naka full battle gear kapa kung wala ka namang modo magmaneho, matatawag pa rin kitang "pasaway"...

rider na naka spartan/boxer shorts/bikini brief.., basta responsable magmaneho and atleast nakasuot man lang ng helmet...para saken "HINDI yun pasaway"...:D IMHO

donman
September 20th, 2008, 01:37 AM
ok lang yan kung malapit lang.
basta maayos magmaneho.
doble ingat lang.

VASILI
September 20th, 2008, 02:02 AM
depende sa driver yan

pero masmaganda yun naka suot ka ng tamang riding gear pag nagkataon....

oo nga, pano kung malalapit lang?

pano kung jan lang sa palengke..

pano kung bibili lang ako ng pagkain ng manok, pandesal, suka, etc..

eh alangan namang mag full battle gear pa ko sa ganun kalapit..

ibig sabihin parang kalabaw sinasakyan ko pag ganun.. :eek:

basta il make sure na may helmet ako kahit pa naka short ako..

panu kung walang suka sa kabilang kanto?

edi dun sa sunod na kanto hahahahhahahaha

noypito
September 20th, 2008, 02:09 AM
ok lang yan kung malapit lang.
basta maayos magmaneho.
doble ingat lang.
i think malapit man o malayo, dapat naka gears pa rin. pero kung ang tanong ay dapat bang ipagbawal yan, I don't think so. hindi na tayo dapat mandohan pa ng batas kung ano ang dapat nating gawin at hindi dapat gawin para sa sarili nating kapakanan. kung gusto nating magpakamatay, for as long as wala tayong idadamay na iba, by all means, go ahead.

education is the solution not regulation.

click_me
September 20th, 2008, 02:17 AM
The gears don't prevent the accident...

The riders do...

Naka gear ka nga pero kala mo nasa race track kung magpatakbo, bali bali ka din sa spill...

Naka shorts ka man or sandals pero your driving at a resonable and responsible speed, malamang gasgas lang mapala mo pag naaksidente ka man...

It's all about the rider and not the stuff he wears...

I am still a pro-helmet advocate though... Pero the rest of the stuff you wear should be at least up to the rider...

noypito
September 20th, 2008, 02:20 AM
The gears don't prevent the accident...

The riders do...

Naka gear ka nga pero kala mo nasa race track kung magpatakbo, bali bali ka din sa spill...

Naka shorts ka man or sandals pero your driving at a resonable and responsible speed, malamang gasgas lang mapala mo pag naaksidente ka man...

It's all about the rider and not the stuff he wears...

I am still a pro-helmet advocate though... Pero the rest of the stuff you wear should be at least up to the rider...
pro safe riding ako. pro gears din. anti regulation nga lang.

enes
September 20th, 2008, 02:51 AM
The gears don't prevent the accident...

The riders do...

Naka gear ka nga pero kala mo nasa race track kung magpatakbo, bali bali ka din sa spill...

Naka shorts ka man or sandals pero your driving at a resonable and responsible speed, malamang gasgas lang mapala mo pag naaksidente ka man...

It's all about the rider and not the stuff he wears...

I am still a pro-helmet advocate though... Pero the rest of the stuff you wear should be at least up to the rider...

well said...:clap: i second the lotion...:D

brand0
September 20th, 2008, 03:01 AM
i see no problem if someone wants to ride in shorts or slippers... if they crash and rash themselves, that's their call...

does riding with full gear make one a better rider???
does riding with full gear make one safer to other people on the road???
let's take 2 riders:
rider 1 wears full leathers, race boots and a fairly pricey helmet... drives like a fekkin bast@rd though and thinks 150 kph is reasonable speed in edsa...
rider 2 wears shirt, shorts, slippers and shades... keeps to his/her lane... rides within reasonable range of traffic flow... signals and looks before turning into the adjacent lane...

i've seen both kinds of riders on the road... who should be taken out???


nice one sir.

kultura na kasi dito sa MCP na kapag "geared up" ka, better rider ka kumpara sa karamihan.

wearing shorts and slippers? I see no problem w/ it.

snifah
September 20th, 2008, 04:39 AM
i see no problem if someone wants to ride in shorts or slippers... if they crash and rash themselves, that's their call...

does riding with full gear make one a better rider???
does riding with full gear make one safer to other people on the road???
let's take 2 riders:
rider 1 wears full leathers, race boots and a fairly pricey helmet... drives like a fekkin bast@rd though and thinks 150 kph is reasonable speed in edsa...
rider 2 wears shirt, shorts, slippers and shades... keeps to his/her lane... rides within reasonable range of traffic flow... signals and looks before turning into the adjacent lane...

i've seen both kinds of riders on the road... who should be taken out???


With respect to TS:
kanya kanyang patakaran lang yan..
and i admire the members of your group kasi talagang sumusunod.
kudos to your group bro. That only shows that your group is disciplined.


pero lets accept the fact na TSINELAS IS PART OF OUR CULTURE.

Tama si boylit.
HINDE TSINELAS ANG MAY KASALANAN NG DISGRASYA.

FOR ME:
OK LANG MAG TSINELAS OR SHORTS MAG MOTOR.
magalit man kayo sa akin.
ok lang..

Walang paki-alam ang ibang tao o ang LTO
kung nadisgrasya ako dahil sa aking gawain.
Nagtsinelas ako, nadisgrasya ako.
so what? hinde naman ang ibang tao ang magbabayad ng bills eh
not even LTO will pay for my hospital bills.

Nag tsinelas ka man o nag shoes.
kung tlagang PASAWAY ka mag drive madidisgrasya ka.

HINDE SA TSINELAS ANG DAHILAN NG DISGRASYA
ALAK AT KATANGAHAN NG RIDER ANG DAHILAN.

tanong ko lang:
Noong nadisgrasya tayo... Nasira ba mga kuko ninyo dahil sa tsinelas?
ang paa ba ang MAJOR DAMAGE kasi nagtsinelas ka?

diba ang ULO, TUHOD, SIKO ang merong major damage?

why should we worry MORE on slipper, while we dont worry on our BONES?

Sensya na po, i dont see the point bakit pagmultahin AKO na hinde naman nakakaperwisyo sa ibang tao.

sariling opinion ko lang po ito.

I DONT SEE THE POINT PUPUNTA KA SA KABILANG KANTO BIBILI NG VETSIN
DAPAT MAG SAPATOS KA PA.

Para sa akin:
HELMET IS RECOMMENDED AND REQUIRED
WEARING SHOES SHOULD BE OPTIONAL, Pero for me
i make sure I wear shoes during long rides.
Pero kung city city not necessary.

TSINELAS IS PART OF OUR DAILY FASHION CULTURE,
unlike sa US and countries where this tsinelas law comes from.
ok lang sa kanila ilagay ang batas na yan.. hinde naman sila nagtsitsinelas eh...
shoes ang gamit nila kahit sa loob ng bahay.
Pero sa atin, tsinelas.

WEARING SHOES/TSINELAS SHOULD BE OPTIONAL AND NOT MANDATORY.

Disclaimer:
Above statements is just MY OWN PERSONAL OPINION.
It will not reflect to any organizations which i belong.

phat_17
September 20th, 2008, 04:40 AM
meron nga dito na mas maangas pag naka gears... :O

VASILI
September 20th, 2008, 04:44 AM
meron nga dito na mas maangas pag naka gears... :O

tol merun nga naka close neck pa yun jacket at nasa braso yun helmet tapos humaharurot sa kanto.....:O

nakita ko lang yun magpapagupit kasi ako sa barbero:O

phat_17
September 20th, 2008, 04:50 AM
tol merun nga naka close neck pa yun jacket at nasa braso yun helmet tapos humaharurot sa kanto.....:O

nakita ko lang yun magpapagupit kasi ako sa barbero:O

nyahahaha!!!...

wala din talaga sa Suot ang Problema nasa nagtuturo ng batas... sino ba nag bigay ng lisensya sa mg pulpol na yun?? diba LTO??


parang Tanga lang... :O

VASILI
September 20th, 2008, 04:52 AM
nyahahaha!!!...

wala din talaga sa Suot ang Problema nasa nagtuturo ng batas... sino ba nag bigay ng lisensya sa mg pulpol na yun?? diba LTO??


parang Tanga lang... :O

parang lang:O:O di naman tanga:O

snifah
September 20th, 2008, 04:54 AM
The gears don't prevent the accident...

The riders do...

Naka gear ka nga pero kala mo nasa race track kung magpatakbo, bali bali ka din sa spill...

Naka shorts ka man or sandals pero your driving at a resonable and responsible speed, malamang gasgas lang mapala mo pag naaksidente ka man...

It's all about the rider and not the stuff he wears...

I am still a pro-helmet advocate though... Pero the rest of the stuff you wear should be at least up to the rider...

TAMA BOSSING.
BELIEVE TALAGA AKO SAYO.

ako din
I BELIEVE IN MANDATORY HELMET.

BUT I DONT BELIEVE IN MANDATORY NO SLIPPERS AND NO SHORTS.
Its plain stupid law.

SLIPPER AND SHORTS SHOULD BE OPTIONAL.

brand0
September 20th, 2008, 05:12 AM
ako ayaw ko sa mandatory helmet law. ayaw ko kasi diktahan kung ano gusto ko gawin kahit hindi naman ako nakakaperwisho sa iba

snifah
September 20th, 2008, 05:22 AM
ako ayaw ko sa mandatory helmet law. ayaw ko kasi diktahan kung ano gusto ko gawin kahit hindi naman ako nakakaperwisho sa iba

may point ka papa... tama ka..

pero naghehelmet ako dahil mahal ko ang aking anak at asawa.

nag slipper ako at shorts dahil mahal ko ang aking asawa...
ayoko syang pahirapan ng trabaho sa paglalaba ng medyas at pantalon.
:O

brand0
September 20th, 2008, 05:33 AM
hehehe, pag mandatory nga naman ang heavy pants and jacket, maraming mapeperwisho, maraming misis ang mapeperwisho sa kalalaba:O

torero
September 20th, 2008, 06:21 AM
OK lang! Nasa driver na yun! Driver naman nag -a-assess ng risk factor.
Same way with riding w/o helmet! eh kung isang metro lang naman ang pupuntahan mo bakit ka pa maghehelmet!

noypito
September 20th, 2008, 06:31 AM
OK lang! Nasa driver na yun! Driver naman nag -a-assess ng risk factor.
Same way with riding w/o helmet! eh kung isang metro lang naman ang pupuntahan mo bakit ka pa maghehelmet!marami kasi sa mga nanunungkulan sa gobyerno na nagaakala na mas magaling sila mag assess. kaya gagawa sila ng isang blanket assessment na applicable sa lahat. :O
yan ang nagagawa ng mga modern day geniuses na nasa pwesto.

donman
September 20th, 2008, 10:49 AM
depende na talaga sa rider yan..

dami ko nga nakikita mga taga MCP na naka tsinelas/shorts, shoes/shorts lang pag nagmomotor eh..
pero maingat naman magmaneho..

may mga nakita na rin ako na member dito na kung kelan naka full gear eh mas nagiging kaskasero.. :D

bacolodnon
September 20th, 2008, 10:59 AM
wala po sa sout yan, and kahit maingat po tayo meron din naman pong iibang di nag iingat at nadadamay tayo. better be prepared at all times, and yes...a simple jacket, shoes, long pants can save you from bruises...

pero as youi all say "di naman sila magbabayad ng bills nyu"..nice reasoning...:D wala ng pakialaman to :evil:

enes
September 20th, 2008, 12:05 PM
may point ka papa... tama ka..

pero naghehelmet ako dahil mahal ko ang aking anak at asawa.

nag slipper ako at shorts dahil mahal ko ang aking asawa...
ayoko syang pahirapan ng trabaho sa paglalaba ng medyas at pantalon.
:O

yan din yung dahilan ko kaya madalas akong naka tsinelas dati...hirap maglaba ng sapatos, at angtagal bago matuyo...eh tag-ulan pa naman ngayon.., plus puti pa yung sapatos ko (isa lang kasi sapatos ko, peborit ko pa naman yun)...:O unlike kung nakatsinelas, kahit maputikan ok lang...

pag may long ride nakasapatos naman ako palagi...:banana:

pinay_ako
September 20th, 2008, 12:22 PM
personally, i don't think it must be compulsary.

nasa rider na rin yun kung gusto nya mag-shoes at pants.

dito sa min ang init talaga kaya lagi ako naka-shorts at tsinelas.

bacolodnon
September 20th, 2008, 12:25 PM
personally, i don't think it must be compulsary.

nasa rider na rin yun kung gusto nya mag-shoes at pants.

dito sa min ang init talaga kaya lagi ako naka-shorts at tsinelas.

ingatan lang po legs nyu mam, sayang po baka magka scar:o

ninjablue
September 20th, 2008, 12:29 PM
personally, i don't think it must be compulsary.

nasa rider na rin yun kung gusto nya mag-shoes at pants.

dito sa min ang init talaga kaya lagi ako naka-shorts at tsinelas.

i agree... hindi po unsafe ang naka short... dahil hindi naman apektado pag mamaneho nyo kung naka shorts ka. yun nga lang masakit pag sumemplang.


ganito na lang po, bakit helmet lang ang required sa mc?

don pangan
September 20th, 2008, 12:41 PM
personally, i don't think it must be compulsary.

nasa rider na rin yun kung gusto nya mag-shoes at pants.

dito sa min ang init talaga kaya lagi ako naka-shorts at tsinelas.

Wearing shoes and pants? Dapat if ur on a busy roads/highways. Wearing gears yes a must pag long rides, prone sa spill ang nag lolong rides dahil sa pagod so better wearprotective gears.

Kung ang palengke na sinasabi nyo ay 5 kms. better na mag sapatos at pants lalupa at dadaan ka sa busy roads. Pero kung mga 1 kms lang at sa loob din lang ng community ok lang naka shorts at slippers basta naka helmet.

Pero kung sa kanto lang naman ang pagbibilhan mo ng suka, eh maglakad ka nalang at wag magmotor, nakapag exercise ka pa. :O

Eto policy ko sa sarili ko im not imposing this to everybody, i still believe its always the riders decision and will be his responsibility to take such risk.:D

Fukitol
September 20th, 2008, 12:41 PM
OK lang! Nasa driver na yun! Driver naman nag -a-assess ng risk factor.
Same way with riding w/o helmet! eh kung isang metro lang naman ang pupuntahan mo bakit ka pa maghehelmet!


maglakad kana lang....malapit lang naman eh

pinay_ako
September 20th, 2008, 12:58 PM
ingatan lang po legs nyu mam, sayang po baka magka scar:o

dami ng barya hehe

masakit pag sumemplang.



di kasi talaga ko gano sanay mag-pants araw-araw. sa long rides lang talaga ko naka-full gear

Kung ang palengke na sinasabi nyo ay 5 kms. better na mag sapatos at pants lalupa at dadaan ka sa busy roads. Pero kung mga 1 kms lang at sa loob din lang ng community ok lang naka shorts at slippers basta naka helmet.

hanggang 30 kms pumupunta ko ng nakatsinels at shorts PERO smypre hindi naman ganun ka-busy dun sa dinadaaan kong roads kaya ok lang.

salamat sa mga paalala

pinay_ako <<==<< wag tularan, masamang halimbawa :D

boylit
September 20th, 2008, 02:18 PM
too many people throw around words like "dapat" and "must"... as if it is their prerogative to dictate the course others should take... all in the name of "protecting" others...

can you imagine if this same type of mentality were to be exercised by lawmakers???

how would these people react if the government in their infallible wisdom decide to pass a law banning motorcycles as being unsafe???

let's say it doesn't go so far... let's say they only require that riders must wear full face helmets, 1 pc. leather suits, ce grade riding boots and leather gauntlets??? after all, leather is more abrasion resistant than textile...

if one chooses to wear gear beyond what is required by law then good for him/her... but the operative term here is choice...

beyond what the law requires, i firmly believe that safety nazis can stick their "dapat" and "must" up their collective uptight behinds... and while they're at it, they may as well shove a piece of coal in there... if they're uptight enough, they just might crap up a piece of diamond... i'm almost certain there are enough uptight buggers here to make a positive impact to the economy...

bacolodnon
September 20th, 2008, 02:25 PM
too many people throw around words like "dapat" and "must"... as if it is their prerogative to dictate the course others should take... all in the name of "protecting" others...

can you imagine if this same type of mentality were to be exercised by lawmakers???

how would these people react if the government in their infallible wisdom decide to pass a law banning motorcycles as being unsafe???

let's say it doesn't go so far... let's say they only require that riders must wear full face helmets, 1 pc. leather suits, ce grade riding boots and leather gauntlets??? after all, leather is more abrasion resistant than textile...

if one chooses to wear gear beyond what is required by law then good for him/her... but the operative term here is choice...

beyond what the law requires, i firmly believe that safety nazis can stick their "dapat" and "must" up their collective uptight behinds... and while they're at it, they may as well shove a piece of coal in there... if they're uptight enough, they just might crap up a piece of diamond... i'm almost certain there are enough uptight buggers here to make a positive impact to the economy...


"dapat" is a conclusion based on observation sir, that might be of help to others that are willing to listen. an opinion didnt take away any "choice" one have, for it is merely a suggestion.

as for the world where there are no "laws"...those who wants to have a "choice" might abuse their freedom too much, and might be dangerous to others...

freedom has its limits, it ends when the freedom of another is at stake...

no rules, no laws?...nice to hear..

but i might stick my head on my uptight behind then and stick a coal with a diamond in it as to maske sure it gets stuck forever there :)

boylit
September 20th, 2008, 02:36 PM
do note that i did not state in any of my posts that the world should be without laws... i make it very very state the following premise within my post: "beyond what the law requires"...

yes, freedom has it's limits... in general, the limits are set at a point where the practice of one's freedom infringes on the freedoms of others... pray tell, how the choice of one's clothing when riding infringes on the rights of others???

"dapat" and "must" are not necessarily conclusions but they are imperatives by operation...

let me give examples (i'll try this in the local vernacular)
sentence 1 : dapat magsuot ng jacket
sentence 2 : mainnam na magsuot ng jacket

jaison
September 20th, 2008, 02:39 PM
I'm in to wearing battle gears kasi masakit kayang mapilayan, naranasan ko na kasi and believe me hindi ko na gustong mangyari pa ulit yun. plus hindi ko pa nagamit tormots ko for 4months kasi nadale right wrist ko, partida naka full gear pako nun (TAICHI moto jacket, TAICHI with carbon knuckles gloves, knee/shin guard, at helmet). on the other hand, what i don't like is yung sobrang diktador ang mga batas natin. what if papunta ka nga naman dyan sa palengke lang, let say mga 1km lang ang layo. tapos unfortunately e merong checkpoint, e di nadale kana... sana eh pag-aralan nila ang batas pang maigi para wala din namang agrabiyado. for what i know kasi law is for the people not people for the law. ibig sabihin yung hindi naman tayo masasakal sa mga batas na ginagawa nila. pano kasi sa isang thread eh pinagbabawal sa ilang lungsod ang tabas na upuan. bakit naman kaya?!

bacolodnon
September 20th, 2008, 02:47 PM
do note that i did not state in any of my posts that the world should be without laws... i make it very very state the following premise within my post: "beyond what the law requires"...ok, got your point sir
yes, freedom has it's limits... in general, the limits are set at a point where the practice of one's freedom infringes on the freedoms of others... pray tell, how the choice of one's clothing when riding infringes on the rights of others??? enforcing pants and shoes, might still be a good thing. although it violates ones choice of wear, it can still lessen their injury in case of a spill...but then again i said "might"

"dapat" and "must" are not necessarily conclusions but they are imperatives by operation... ok, wrong term was used...ok lang kung"dapat sana"

let me give examples (i'll try this in the local vernacular)
sentence 1 : dapat magsuot ng jacket
sentence 2 : mainnam na magsuot ng jacket

pwedi naman po kasing bigyan na lang ng information ang mga tao about safety(i.e seminar, lectures) which dpat po sana upon acquiaring one's DL...then its up for them to decide either they apply what they learn or not.

enes
September 20th, 2008, 02:56 PM
pwedi naman po kasing bigyan na lang ng information ang mga tao about safety(i.e seminar, lectures) which dpat po sana upon acquiaring one's DL...then its up for them to decide either they apply what they learn or not.

gaya ng sabi ni sir noypito..."EDUCATION...not regulation" :banana:

bacolodnon
September 20th, 2008, 03:00 PM
gaya ng sabi ni sir noypito..."EDUCATION...not regulation" :banana:

it will be like giving students a lot of lecture without any test...

well see if they'll learned :)

littlebadboy
September 20th, 2008, 04:41 PM
shorts or pants doesn't matter to me... they're both not resistant to abrasion anyways. on my scoot, i wore shorts or pants, depending on the need at my destination.

driedmango
September 20th, 2008, 05:00 PM
It's ideal to wear protective gears all the time, malayo man o malapit ang destination. Pero sometimes, especially kung pupunta ka lang sa plaza running at 20 to 30km/h at walang sasakyan kasi village lang naman, hindi na ata practical kung mag fu full battle gear ka pa, lalo na kung nakapa ingat mo magmaneho. just don't forget to wear your helmet.

and another thing, pwede ka rin pala mag bike na lang para tipid sa gas. But then again, running at 20 to 30km/h, mag fu full battle gear ka ba kahit bisikleta lang dala mo?

nalla
September 20th, 2008, 05:16 PM
oo nga naman..

punta ka lang ng palengke naka full battle gear ka?
(jacket, gloves, maong and shoes?)
tapos ang palengke ay 3kms mula sa bahay nyo?

wala naman ata sa ayos pag ganon, tapos linggo pa?!!:nuts::nuts:

garyboy_palaboy
September 20th, 2008, 05:33 PM
meron akong kilala sumakay sa KALABAW, eh nagwala yung kalabaw, ayun...baldado at lumpo na ngayon...kung baket kasi hindi naghelmet at nagsuot ng mga safety gears...:crazy:




nyahahaha!

kaya dapat din siguro yung mga hinete ng kabayo naka protective gears din, hehehe!



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driedmango
September 20th, 2008, 05:36 PM
nyahahaha!

kaya dapat din siguro yung mga hinete ng kabayo naka protective gears din, hehehe!



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may nalulumpo din sa bisikleta. dapat ata naka full battle gear din :O

abercrombie
September 20th, 2008, 05:53 PM
yes, pag long ride lang ako naka full battle gear..


di naman porket naka short at chinelas eh wala ka ng disiplina sa pag momotor at iresponsable ka na..


case to case basis pa din..

dandang
September 20th, 2008, 05:58 PM
Pag sing lamig ng BAGUIO ang weather natin dito sa maynila, dun ako mag pants pero kung sing init ng sauna bath shorts lang ako, except of course sa long rides.