paoski
August 19th, 2008, 01:45 AM
meron ba mga sir HJC Modular helmet na affordable? Around 3k na kapresyo ng Zeus 508w?
Magkano po pala cheapest na HJC Modular and anong model?
Tnx
Magkano po pala cheapest na HJC Modular and anong model?
Tnx
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View Full Version : HJC Modular na affordable? paoski August 19th, 2008, 01:45 AM meron ba mga sir HJC Modular helmet na affordable? Around 3k na kapresyo ng Zeus 508w? Magkano po pala cheapest na HJC Modular and anong model? Tnx paoski August 19th, 2008, 01:47 AM and any other suggestions sa 3k for a modular helmet? geemax August 19th, 2008, 01:53 AM Sir wala akong alam na brand new modular helmet na mabibili mo sa presyong 3 k,baka 2nd hand na Zeus 508 meron sa classified,just check it & you will see which one fits your budget. phat_17 August 19th, 2008, 02:27 AM cheapest Modular..i think it playing between 2200-2500 which is DOT Approved is ZUES 508..... :D... you can buy a Class A GDR...pero its not DOT approved... GO for Zues..you cant go Wrong with it.. :D noypito August 19th, 2008, 02:38 AM as far as i know, zeus lang ang may pinaka murang modular helmet na pasado sa DOT standards. another option would be spyder. maganda naman ang quality ng spyder and they claim na DOT and ECE certified daw sila (which i really doubt kasi wala namang spyder helmets sa US and Europe kaya i don't see kung pano sila matetest ng DOT ng US at ECE ng EU) click_me August 19th, 2008, 02:51 AM as far as i know, zeus lang ang may pinaka murang modular helmet na pasado sa DOT standards. another option would be spyder. maganda naman ang quality ng spyder and they claim na DOT and ECE certified daw sila (which i really doubt kasi wala namang spyder helmets sa US and Europe kaya i don't see kung pano sila matetest ng DOT ng US at ECE ng EU) Sir, Hindi naman po need na ibenta ang helmet sa ibang bansa para maging certified ng ECE, DOT or Snell for that matter... In order to get certification, they need to send in a sample of their helmet to these agencies and it will run through extensive tests... Another thing, Spyder built its helmets to conform warm and humid climates... Pansinin nyo yung mga helmet na available world wide, mas mainit sila sa ulo kasi some of them made them to be usable under colder climates... I've owned AGV, Shoei, Arai, HJC and Simpson helmets through out my life time... Mainit silang lahat... Besides, false advertising can lead to law suites... I'm sure di i-ririsk ng Spyder yan... noypito August 19th, 2008, 03:21 AM Sir, Hindi naman po need na ibenta ang helmet sa ibang bansa para maging certified ng ECE, DOT or Snell for that matter... In order to get certification, they need to send in a sample of their helmet to these agencies and it will run through extensive tests... Another thing, Spyder built its helmets to conform warm and humid climates... Pansinin nyo yung mga helmet na available world wide, mas mainit sila sa ulo kasi some of them made them to be usable under colder climates... I've owned AGV, Shoei, Arai, HJC and Simpson helmets through out my life time... Mainit silang lahat... Besides, false advertising can lead to law suites... I'm sure di i-ririsk ng Spyder yan... sir, i beg to disagree. ang DOT, hindi sila nagbibigay ng certification. they have a set of guidelines na naka publish. yung mga manufacturers ang nagsasabi kung nag conform sila sa standards na sinet ng DOT. ang ginagawa lang ng DOT, they do random testing ng mga helmets na available sa market. according to the website of DOT, they only have the capacity to test around 5 helmets per year. pag pumasa ang helmet, they don't do anything. pero kung bumagsak, they'll ask the manufacturer to recall all the helmets sold. nangyari na yan sa shoei and some other brands. may mga models sila na pina recall ng DOT. sabi din ng DOT na hindi binibigay sa kanila ang mga helmets for testing, they buy the helmets that they test in the market. now, if you were to ask me, puedeng sabihin ng spyder na nag conform sila sa guidelines na sinet ng DOT pero they shouldn't claim na DOT certified sila. kasi DOT dosen't give certifications. SNELL lang ang nagbibigay ng certifications kasi private organization yan di tulad ng DOT na gov't agency lang. DOT sa states is equvalent to LTO dito sa pinas. click_me August 19th, 2008, 03:51 AM sir, i beg to disagree. ang DOT, hindi sila nagbibigay ng certification. they have a set of guidelines na naka publish. yung mga manufacturers ang nagsasabi kung nag conform sila sa standards na sinet ng DOT. ang ginagawa lang ng DOT, they do random testing ng mga helmets na available sa market. according to the website of DOT, they only have the capacity to test around 5 helmets per year. pag pumasa ang helmet, they don't do anything. pero kung bumagsak, they'll ask the manufacturer to recall all the helmets sold. nangyari na yan sa shoei and some other brands. may mga models sila na pina recall ng DOT. sabi din ng DOT na hindi binibigay sa kanila ang mga helmets for testing, they buy the helmets that they test in the market. now, if you were to ask me, puedeng sabihin ng spyder na nag conform sila sa guidelines na sinet ng DOT pero they shouldn't claim na DOT certified sila. kasi DOT dosen't give certifications. SNELL lang ang nagbibigay ng certifications kasi private organization yan di tulad ng DOT na gov't agency lang. DOT sa states is equvalent to LTO dito sa pinas. Sir, I wasn't merely talking about DOT alone... ECE 22.05 po ang isa sa tinutukoy ko... As far as using ECE 22.05, the manufacturer has to send in helmets by batch to do their testing... Also, Spyder did not say on their products that they are DOT standard helmets... They use the ECE 22.05 to advertise their products... So, I guess naging conception mo sa sinabi ko eh tunkol sa DOT and not the ECE... Also, I know what DOT is... I worked for GM and we were trained as to what their standards are for cages... Lastly, It's not just SNELL who gives out certifications... ECE does this as well and the LTO uses the ECE standard instead of SNELL... noypito August 19th, 2008, 09:10 AM Sir, I wasn't merely talking about DOT alone... ECE 22.05 po ang isa sa tinutukoy ko... As far as using ECE 22.05, the manufacturer has to send in helmets by batch to do their testing... Also, Spyder did not say on their products that they are DOT standard helmets... They use the ECE 22.05 to advertise their products... So, I guess naging conception mo sa sinabi ko eh tunkol sa DOT and not the ECE... Also, I know what DOT is... I worked for GM and we were trained as to what their standards are for cages... Lastly, It's not just SNELL who gives out certifications... ECE does this as well and the LTO uses the ECE standard instead of SNELL... actually i'm not that familiar with the ECE standard. but spyder did claim that they are DOT certified. TeamSpyder even promised me to scan their documents and email it to me, which they haven't done up to now. (another reason why i really doubt their claims) I'd like to make it clear though. I do think that Spyder helmets are of good quality. I just don't think they have DOT and ECE certification as they claim to have. kmhanley August 19th, 2008, 09:57 AM MAG KANO ANG BENTAHAN NG HJC NGAUYON? BAKA PALA MAY PICS KAYO DYAN PARA MAKITA NAMAN NG T.S... http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l210/im_mutt/IMG_0798.jpg HELMET NI KANUTO, HINDI SYA MODULAR GAMIT NYA ATA PAG NAG LALARO SILA. click_me August 19th, 2008, 11:07 AM actually i'm not that familiar with the ECE standard. but spyder did claim that they are DOT certified. TeamSpyder even promised me to scan their documents and email it to me, which they haven't done up to now. (another reason why i really doubt their claims) I'd like to make it clear though. I do think that Spyder helmets are of good quality. I just don't think they have DOT and ECE certification as they claim to have. Well, if that is the case, the suppliers can get into real big trouble kse, I for one, being one of their consumers, can file for false advertising... And I can have them return my money and get me a real ECE certified helmet for misleading the customers on their product advertisement... I still don't think that they would risk the name of the company to do such... abercrombie August 19th, 2008, 01:10 PM zeus 508w na lang.. na lang, ala ata modular na hjc na tag 3k lang.. click_me August 19th, 2008, 01:11 PM HJC is usually about 1.5-3k higher than zeus... phat_17 August 19th, 2008, 09:17 PM MAG KANO ANG BENTAHAN NG HJC NGAUYON? BAKA PALA MAY PICS KAYO DYAN PARA MAKITA NAMAN NG T.S... http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l210/im_mutt/IMG_0798.jpg HELMET NI KANUTO, HINDI SYA MODULAR GAMIT NYA ATA PAG NAG LALARO SILA. CS-12 ba toh??? thanks.. noypito August 20th, 2008, 02:32 AM Well, if that is the case, the suppliers can get into real big trouble kse, I for one, being one of their consumers, can file for false advertising... And I can have them return my money and get me a real ECE certified helmet for misleading the customers on their product advertisement... I still don't think that they would risk the name of the company to do such... sir, na email na nila sa akin ang ECE certification nila. so, it is a fact that they are ECE certified. galing pa sa Madrid ang certification nila. kasi espangol ang salita. what they don't have is the DOT certification. di nga kasi nagbibigay ng certification ang DOT. anyways, mas matimbang naman ang ECE standards kaysa sa DOT standards. click_me August 20th, 2008, 02:41 AM sir, na email na nila sa akin ang ECE certification nila. so, it is a fact that they are ECE certified. galing pa sa Madrid ang certification nila. kasi espangol ang salita. what they don't have is the DOT certification. di nga kasi nagbibigay ng certification ang DOT. anyways, mas matimbang naman ang ECE standards kaysa sa DOT standards. Sayang... Gagawa na sana ako ng letter para i-refund yung helmet tapos hihingi ako ng AGV... :O Anyway, happy ako sa SPyder... Back to topic: Diba HJC helmets are heavy? noypito August 20th, 2008, 02:44 AM Sayang... Gagawa na sana ako ng letter para i-refund yung helmet tapos hihingi ako ng AGV... :O Anyway, happy ako sa SPyder... Back to topic: Diba HJC helmets are heavy? depende sa model. may mga hjc helmets na gawa sa fiber. medyo mahal nga lang. yung nakita ko dati was worth 28k. phat_17 August 20th, 2008, 04:15 AM Sayang... Gagawa na sana ako ng letter para i-refund yung helmet tapos hihingi ako ng AGV... :O Anyway, happy ako sa SPyder... Back to topic: Diba HJC helmets are heavy? oo sir...sa experience ko sa Zues 508 saka sa HJC CS-12 ko..mas mabigat talga yung HJC.. geemax August 20th, 2008, 05:33 AM I went for a fitting on HJC SYMAX II modular helmet,the weight is too heavy,mas magaan yung SHOEI MULTITEC pero walang inside tinted lens yung SHOEI MULTITEC. The HJC SYMAX II is made in Korea,price range here in the U.S cost between $ 250 - $ 265 plus tax, On a budget of 3,000 pesos siguro ZEUS 508 ang puedeng bilhin. geemax August 20th, 2008, 05:56 AM Heres the latest model from HJC,its called HJC SYMAX II modular helmet http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x20/boyetssilverfit/HJC_Sy-Max_II.jpg phat_17 August 20th, 2008, 06:11 AM [QUOTE=geemax;2787555]Heres the latest model from HJC,its called HJC SYMAX II modular helmet wlang Pic bro.. http://www.kneedraggers.com/image_storage/9/28/9280c2bc339aa766976cce7f668ff1bc_rough.jpg may hawig din pala sa Class A na GDR... http://www.kneedraggers.com/image_storage/c/b6/cb68c21a3ebed0228412d3f6220cbbac_rough.jpg http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/Photos/HJC_Sy-Max_II.jpg Double Lens ba yun?? http://64.68.151.226/images/07-760small.jpg http://64.68.151.226/images/07-774small.jpg HEto ba yan??? geemax August 20th, 2008, 06:28 AM Yup,that's it, yung solid color, the quality of paint is excellent,the materials inside is ok,but for me the weight is too heavy. Solid color lang so far ang HJC SY MAX II,who knows next year baka may ibang design na. So far sa 2008 line up ng mga modular helmet SHOEI MULTITEC ang may magandang review according sa mga owners na nakabili dito sa U.S,but the price of a SHOEI MULTITEC is not for everybody. tellybuhay August 20th, 2008, 04:35 PM no offense sir pero 3k na HJC modular helmet? I highly doubt it. the fullface cl-14 alone costs 4k+. go for the Zeus 508 (cheaper than the 508w) OZORIO August 22nd, 2008, 08:09 PM ano mas ok hjc o caberg? halos kapresyo na pla ng hjc ang caberg(modular)... magkano ba dito satin yung symax? http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/4570/dsc0269borderjy0.jpg http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/7012/dsc0274borderig6.jpg OZORIO August 22nd, 2008, 08:10 PM @TS sa 3k pede ka na mag Zeus 508w 2.5k Zeus 508 naman @ Motoworld ok na ok na mga yan, bestbuy modulars sa presyo nila chxman August 23rd, 2008, 12:20 AM ask ko lng po.. ano po mas ok bilin? zeus or hjc? totoo po bang mabigat ang hjc? tnx:D Riverflow_2000 August 23rd, 2008, 01:05 AM ask ko lng po.. ano po mas ok bilin? zeus or hjc? totoo po bang mabigat ang hjc? tnx:D Alam ko walang affordable na HJC modular. HJC mas ok sa Zeus... noypito August 23rd, 2008, 01:27 AM depende ang affordability sa financial capacity mo. maraming nakakabili ng HJC kaya malamang affordable sa kanila yun. between zeus and HJC, kung ako tatanungin mo, subukan mo pareho. kung alin ang mas magandang fit sa ulo mo, yun ang bilhin mo. di naman dapat maging basis sa pagbili ng helmet ang presyo. may hjc na magaan at may hjc na mabigat. same is also true with zeus. usually mabibigat ang mga mas lumang models. more expensive does not necessarily equate to better helmet OZORIO August 23rd, 2008, 10:36 AM sa exceed caloocan, 2700 lang bili ko sa 508w.. dito pla mas mura zeus.. official distributor din cla mixme August 23rd, 2008, 12:10 PM I suggest punta ka sa caloocan, Exceed to fit the Zeus! and sa JT truimph to fit naman ang HJC!...makatabi lang yun! kung ano ang nasa puso mo...kunin mo! :D pinaka-murang HJC modular is 7k+ sa JT truimph caloocan... CL max ata ang model... hth dbmaristela_73 August 25th, 2008, 10:39 AM Following is the official U.S. regulation, or "law" for what we motorcyclists in the U.S. know as the DOT regulations covering motorcycle helmets. In other words, a motorcycle helmet manufacturer would have to submit a helmet model to testing to the following regulations to meet DOT standards and the right to place the DOT sticker on the back of the helmet. The Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard (FMVSS) known as FMVSS 218 (49CFR571.218), describes in great detail the requirements for "DOT" certification of all helmets sold in the United States for use by motorcyclists. Helmets that do not meet the minimal DOT certification standards may not be sold as "motorcycle helmets." The Snell Memorial Foundation is an additional certification source intended to provide testing standards and "Snell" certification to a different standard than FMVSS 218. The Snell standards don't replace the DOT standards; meeting Snell standards is completely voluntary. All motorcycle helmets sold in the U.S.A. must be DOT "certified", in that they must have gone through the proper procedures in a certified testing lab to meet DOT standards for motorcycle helmets, but they are not required to be Snell certified. A motorcycle helmet that carries both DOT and Snell standards may have gone through different testing schemes, but may not necessarily be superior to helmets that meets the DOT standard. There is some controversy over standards and testing, and it gets even more complicated if you consider the European ECE 22.05 standard. noypito August 25th, 2008, 11:19 AM Following is the official U.S. regulation, or "law" for what we motorcyclists in the U.S. know as the DOT regulations covering motorcycle helmets. In other words, a motorcycle helmet manufacturer would have to submit a helmet model to testing to the following regulations to meet DOT standards and the right to place the DOT sticker on the back of the helmet. The Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard (FMVSS) known as FMVSS 218 (49CFR571.218), describes in great detail the requirements for "DOT" certification of all helmets sold in the United States for use by motorcyclists. Helmets that do not meet the minimal DOT certification standards may not be sold as "motorcycle helmets." The Snell Memorial Foundation is an additional certification source intended to provide testing standards and "Snell" certification to a different standard than FMVSS 218. The Snell standards don't replace the DOT standards; meeting Snell standards is completely voluntary. All motorcycle helmets sold in the U.S.A. must be DOT "certified", in that they must have gone through the proper procedures in a certified testing lab to meet DOT standards for motorcycle helmets, but they are not required to be Snell certified. A motorcycle helmet that carries both DOT and Snell standards may have gone through different testing schemes, but may not necessarily be superior to helmets that meets the DOT standard. There is some controversy over standards and testing, and it gets even more complicated if you consider the European ECE 22.05 standard. di po kailangan na mag submit ng helmet for testing sa DOT. DOT does not give certifications kaya there is no such thing as a DOT certified helmet. Pag may DOT sticker ang isang helmet, it only means that the manufacturer complied with the specifications given by FMVSS or DOT. DOT does random testing of the helmets sold in the US. If they find a helmet that does not pass their standard, they simply ask the manufacturer to recall that particular model from the market. kaya kung may manufacturer na nag claim na DOT certified and helmet nila, wag kayo maniwala kasi there is no such thing as a DOT certification. only SNELL and ECE gives certifications. ang puede lang i-claim ng isang helmet manufacturer is that they complied with DOT standards. freeman010 August 27th, 2008, 12:23 AM pinaka murang quality modular ata is zeus o.t. suggestion, gawa kayo thread for DOT clarification mikafajardo August 27th, 2008, 01:35 AM HJC is usually about 1.5-3k higher than zeus... This is false information as far as the modular is concerned which is what the TS is asking. HJC modular is about 4.5-5t higher than the Zeus. To the TS, go and forget the HJC with your budget. Get the Zeus instead but just be careful with the screws, they tend to loose a bit in time. Better to ask for additional screws when you purchase a brand new lid. Did this before with Motoworld and they gave it with a smile:) click_me August 27th, 2008, 02:41 AM This is false information as far as the modular is concerned which is what the TS is asking. HJC modular is about 4.5-5t higher than the Zeus. To the TS, go and forget the HJC with your budget. Get the Zeus instead but just be careful with the screws, they tend to loose a bit in time. Better to ask for additional screws when you purchase a brand new lid. Did this before with Motoworld and they gave it with a smile:) Thank you for the correction... Mahal na talaga HJC ngayon... Kasi I remember buying my CL-11 5 years ago at 5K... Maybe it changed... paoski August 28th, 2008, 01:36 AM tnx for all your replies. nakabili na ko ng modular. salamat din sa nag inform na malapit na price ng hjc sa caberg. :) Caberg RHYNO:banana: couldn't be happier! http://www.caberg-helm.com/Products/00%20apribili_flip-up_flip-up/10%20rhyno_edfg_jgcbkuson_f_9_9/g003_01.jpg http://www.caberg-helm.com/Products/00%20apribili_flip-up_flip-up/10%20rhyno_edfg_jgcbkuson_f_9_9/g003_02.jpg http://www.caberg-helm.com/Products/00%20apribili_flip-up_flip-up/10%20rhyno_edfg_jgcbkuson_f_9_9/g003_03.jpg |