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theMARKman

August 7th, 2008, 02:47 PM

orionZ3

August 7th, 2008, 02:54 PM

JonCarlos

August 7th, 2008, 06:28 PM

nag tingin din ako kanina sa SLR dito sa min..yung Nikon FM10 binibigay ng 5.5k...me flash at telephoto ng kasama..pati bag..ok na kaya yun??

any idea kung mag kano ang mga Canon SLR's na 2nd hand dito sa tin? mag rerefresh ako kasi ulet pano mag develope ng film...nakaka miss kasi ang black and white sa film =)

JonCarlos

August 7th, 2008, 06:39 PM

share ko lang brad..nung nakita ko to, para kong nakarinig ng mga angel sa paligid haha

http://images.roland544.multiply.com/image/4/photos/9/600x600/3/camera-collection3.JPG?et=jGJLnkfFXZFKCJBt6gaT0A&nmid=84605327

theMARKman

August 7th, 2008, 06:56 PM

orionZ3

August 7th, 2008, 07:10 PM

DeLonghi

August 8th, 2008, 01:18 AM

.. My question is, "advisable pa ba ang film slr? if yes, what are its advantage over a much pricey DSLR?.. and sa halagang 5k-8k na film SLR, mura na ba ito? o makamumura ka nga pero malaki naman ang magagastos mo in the future sa films, developing, etc.?

would a film slr camera still be good to have kahit wala kang masyadong pera? or would it be for people who have great passion for photography nalang(more of a hobby)?

help naman mga bossing... tia

To answer the question:

Use a film SLR only if you have money to burn because every shot counts, every contact print, and every enlarged print. Digital SLRs offer instant viewing, either in camera or downloaded to a computer. It is therefore easier to choose which photos to print at the end of the day. This way, you become more cost effective.

If you take a film camera to an event and you make a mistake, you can say goodbye to those moments. This is the reason digital cameras shine! It is also the reason why many are in to photography. If the shot is no good, they just delete and take another until they are satisfied. You don't get the same allowance for film.

HOWEVER, if you are serious about photography, then you should know the very foundations and start with film.

FYI: Professional quality films on a 135 format cost anywhere from 180 to 320 pesos per 36 shot/roll. That's just the film. If you want to print everything, that's another 7 to 12 pesos per print, and 80 pesos for the contact print (non-digital).

120 format films and larger are more scarce and therefore more expensive. HTH.

JonCarlos

August 8th, 2008, 01:20 AM

hehhe nikon boy yung dad mo sir dba?? :)
these are not my STEP Dad's cameras.nakita ko lang sa multiply nag bebenta ng old stuff nya...astig yung medium format brad no?....kelan ko lang nalaman na yung step dad ko OLY pala gamit kala ko Nikon, at ang Dad ko naman eh Pentax...perahong slr..

orionZ3

August 8th, 2008, 01:22 AM

these are not my STEP Dad's cameras.nakita ko lang sa multiply nag bebenta ng old stuff nya...astig yung medium format brad no?....kelan ko lang nalaman na yung step dad ko OLY pala gamit kala ko Nikon, at ang Dad ko naman eh Pentax...perahong slr..

hehehe, san mo nakita yun sir??
baka may naitatagong primes yun! :) hehehe

jetzone

August 10th, 2008, 05:52 AM

we all know that DSLR cameras are considered the latest when it comes to photography.. Kaya siguro yung iba, binibenta na yung fil slr nila kahit medyo mababa ang presyo. I can say sa affordable price na yun, marami ng freebies (extra lens, bags etc.).. My question is, "advisable pa ba ang film slr? if yes, what are its advantage over a much pricey DSLR?.. and sa halagang 5k-8k na film SLR, mura na ba ito? o makamumura ka nga pero malaki naman ang magagastos mo in the future sa films, developing, etc.?

would a film slr camera still be a good to have kahit wala kang masyadong pera? or would it be for people who have great passion for photography nalang(more of a hobby)?

help naman mga bossing... tia

i have a different answer to your question...

if you started on Film SLR..chances are..you gonna keep a piece not only for sentimental value....but you had evolved with it....

theres a feeling of difference once you were a part of the film generation....

....miss mo yung tunog ng mechanical shutter
....miss mo yung ki-na crank mo yung film rewind
....miss mo yung blunder na it was a perfect composition tapos nung andun na pala yung moment....hindi pala na ka wind yung film lever...kaya ayun...di nag click yung shutter [my most common mistake]
....miss mo mag dis assemble ng focusing screen
....miss mo yung natutunaw yung foam sa gilid ng film back cover dahil sa init ng panahon
....miss mo yung tunog ng mechanical self timer

....miss mo yung pag didikitin mo yung half circle ng focus sa VF
....miss mo yung mali pala ang pag timpla mo ng iso push
....miss mo yung pag karga ng film manually lalo na yung ayaw kainin ng spool kasi di pantay sa ngipin

advisable ang film slr?

...still is, as long na meron kang nabibiling film at alam mong gamitin

advantage?...

i can mention 3:

1] cheaper to buy the camera [ not the nikon F6]
2] you buy them if you had evolved with them
3]mas madali at mas mura mag repair ng film slr circa '70-2000[kung me pyesa pang available hehehe]compared kung sensor ng dslr mo yung nasira

on the downside....

-mas mahal ang post processing ng film
-mahal ang bili ka ng bili ng film
-di mo sure kung perfect ang kakalabasan ng 36 shots mo
-you learn the basics the hard way...[which photography is all about]

i would keep a film slr kasi dun ako nagsimula...other than that....digital is the future

DeLonghi

August 10th, 2008, 11:44 AM

Well now that we're talking about the film era, here's what I miss:

1. The thrill of not seeing your shots
2. The ease of sending your exposed rolls to a pro lab (no more digital editing for me)
3. Contrary to number 2, I also miss developing my own rolls
4. The smell of developer, stop bath, fixer
4. Dark room / Enlarger
5. Platinum print vs silver halides!!!
6. The feel of metal in your hands!
.... wow nostalgia!

JonCarlos

August 10th, 2008, 12:27 PM

Orion...eto link ng multiply (http://images.roland544.multiply.com/) nya

IloveHairpin

August 12th, 2008, 01:51 AM

MAS BILIB AKO SA MGA FILM ANG GAMIT...

1. HINDI EDITED ANG MGA SHOOTS
2. IT TAKES TIME TO PERFECT
3. PROFESSIONAL KA TALAGANG MATATAWAG

HINDI KATULAD NGAYON, BASTA MAHUSAY KA SA ADOBE EH MATATAWAG NA RAW SILANG PROFESSIONAL PHOTOGRAPHER...
.................................................................................................... ...........

IloveHairpin

August 12th, 2008, 01:52 AM

Madami nyan dito mga "magagaling"

DeLonghi

August 12th, 2008, 07:47 AM

There seems to be a misconception about photoshop in the digital age. Photoshop stems from the darkroom process but lends a more efficient flow. Note, however, that everything from photoshop was first started in the dark room:

Layers, curves, levels, contrast, saturation, dodge and burn, etc. Even the selective coloring came from the dark room.

The only difference is that Photoshop is easier to learn and more friendly to the hobbyists. In line with this, there are only a handful of professional film users who actually touch the chemicals themselves. Most darkroom techniques are executed by pro labs but being a film photographer doesn't mean that photos aren't edited. If you actually spent enough time with film, you might be surprised how much post processing is required.

I'm saying this because a lot of people who try to be film afficionados claim that film photography proves to be more difficult and "professional" This is true but only to a certain extent. Both professional film and digital photographers delve into post processing so, if your basis for calling one a professional is in the absence of editing, then you are gravely misinformed.

- just trying to shed some light into the whole post processing issue.

JonCarlos

August 12th, 2008, 04:04 PM

MAS BILIB AKO SA MGA FILM ANG GAMIT...

1. HINDI EDITED ANG MGA SHOOTS
2. IT TAKES TIME TO PERFECT
3. PROFESSIONAL KA TALAGANG MATATAWAG

HINDI KATULAD NGAYON, BASTA MAHUSAY KA SA ADOBE EH MATATAWAG NA RAW SILANG PROFESSIONAL PHOTOGRAPHER...

Sigurado ka ba o kung sino man ang nag sabi nyan na di nag eedit sa darkroom?? ;) dapat may basehan kung mag sasalita ng ganyan.kasi MERON! alam kong di nag eedit eh yung mga naka point and shoot na film type na pag tapos ng isang roll, diretso sa lab :)

DeLonghi

August 12th, 2008, 05:18 PM

Saw some nice collections there. Just wanna share some more:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3288/2755704289_0471e23f56_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3019/2755704451_06922fde34_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3183/2756537894_4ced8d5b8c_o.jpg

Hardliner

August 13th, 2008, 10:47 AM

just to add one advantage of film slr...
the photos have more clarity and depth
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or probably the digital photos i've compared with needs editing. :O

Wide_Load

November 19th, 2008, 10:29 AM

Topic is too subjective for me, strikes too many deeply ingrained inner chords...

Whenever I go on a special trip, it's the usual which to bring: analog or digital dilemma. I don't like carrying rolls of film, but I don't like batteries and chargers either. :)

Recommended reading:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_versus_film_photography

dadzpogi

June 13th, 2009, 10:32 AM

better keep a film camera and a slr camera instead, kung may budget naman,, para masaya.. pero for practical reasons digicam or dslr are the best.. very convenient, savvy, techy, plug and play functions,,, etc..

chauff

June 13th, 2009, 11:20 AM

hehhe nikon boy yung dad mo sir dba?? :)

daming camera nito ah :D

gripfast

June 13th, 2009, 11:33 AM

gusto ko ulit mag film slr's...gamit ko nung high school ko Nikon SLR pero automatic sya...I forgot the model. Then my mom has a couple of Film SLR's...yung pinaka favorite nya is yung FM10 and yung FE22.

here's a pic of her cameras. ah yung dslr dyan is my old d40 na binigay ko na sa cousin ko. hehehe!

http://images.annemadrid.multiply.com/image/4/photos/41/400x400/2/NikonFam-006.jpg?et=6OG91RWzopbaQYVcmoK8vw&nmid=69101553

chauff

June 13th, 2009, 11:37 AM

nice units :D hmm... maganda talaga mag film but magastos nga lang tapos ang gagamiting mo pang film is velbia :) but ganda ng kalalabasan nito pag ito ang gamit mo :)

gusto ko ulit mag film slr's...gamit ko nung high school ko Nikon SLR pero automatic sya...I forgot the model. Then my mom has a couple of Film SLR's...yung pinaka favorite nya is yung FM10 and yung FE22.

here's a pic of her cameras. ah yung dslr dyan is my old d40 na binigay ko na sa cousin ko. hehehe!

http://images.annemadrid.multiply.com/image/4/photos/41/400x400/2/NikonFam-006.jpg?et=6OG91RWzopbaQYVcmoK8vw&nmid=69101553

gripfast

June 13th, 2009, 11:39 AM

My Mom would probably let me have it....nasa cabinet lang eh! di ko na nga makita yung mga ibang lens nya. sayang talaga kasi pwede ko pa magamit.

GPC

June 13th, 2009, 12:07 PM

My Mom would probably let me have it....nasa cabinet lang eh! di ko na nga makita yung mga ibang lens nya. sayang talaga kasi pwede ko pa magamit.

put it in dry box sayang yan kung magkaroon ng mold

Wide_Load

June 15th, 2009, 09:18 AM

My Mom would probably let me have it....nasa cabinet lang eh! di ko na nga makita yung mga ibang lens nya. sayang talaga kasi pwede ko pa magamit.

That's not an entirely bad idea. If you're lucky, you may even save a bundle by buying a digital BODY that is compatible with your existing lenses. That way, you get the best of both worlds at a drasticlly reduced price.

So far for me, I haven't found a digital body for my lenses yet, though... :(

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3036/2755569068_13b485179f_m.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3010/2754737033_8c614859e8_m.jpg

chauff

June 15th, 2009, 09:23 AM

that's good thing about nikon old lenses, you can mount it on the new models :D but it won't meter except if your slr are like d300 d3 etc.

My Mom would probably let me have it....nasa cabinet lang eh! di ko na nga makita yung mga ibang lens nya. sayang talaga kasi pwede ko pa magamit.

ttherapistt

June 23rd, 2009, 11:18 PM

That's not an entirely bad idea. If you're lucky, you may even save a bundle by buying a digital BODY that is compatible with your existing lenses. That way, you get the best of both worlds at a drasticlly reduced price.

So far for me, I haven't found a digital body for my lenses yet, though... :(

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3036/2755569068_13b485179f_m.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3010/2754737033_8c614859e8_m.jpg

wow nice minolta gear set sir! and great lens collection:D.. are those AF lens or MD/MC? if AF they would greatly work on a sony alpha body! if MD/MC then you would need an adapter to make it work for MF..

Wide_Load

June 24th, 2009, 08:51 AM

wow nice minolta gear set sir! and great lens collection:D.. are those AF lens or MD/MC? if AF they would greatly work on a sony alpha body! if MD/MC then you would need an adapter to make it work for MF..

Thank you, sir. They are MD lenses, and being Minolta, have the added benefit of unfortunately not fitting directly unto any other brand. :(

This is the rundown of the set from an earlier post:

http://www.motorcyclephilippines.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2755657&postcount=37

I hope there may very well be, but so far have had no luck sourcing an adapter, wishfully, for them to fit my present Olympus E-500 DLSR (especially with its unique Four Thirds mount).

ttherapistt

June 25th, 2009, 06:02 AM

Wide_Load

June 25th, 2009, 09:34 AM

i recognized earlier the 500mm and the 50mm 1.7 :D 50mm f/ 3.5 Macro! sweet!:D:D
though sir there are presently available adaptors for your lens na! for sony alpha im sure there is! but for olympus im not pretty sure.. check this site sir DYXUM (http://dyxum.com/) also the sony alpha phil. int multiply group.. SAPI (http://sonyalphapinoy1.multiply.com) dami minolta users sa group namin they have evolve from minolta manual slr to minolta af then sony alpha dslr.. they still talk about minolta though! :D

You seem to have a good eye, sir, being able to recognize those lenses from so small a picture! http://bestsmileys.com/thumbs/7.gif

I have considered buying the Sony when it first came into the market but hesitated due to the (apparent) high cost of the system. As I'm not really sure if I'm completely sold on digital, it make take considerable effort on my part to start on yet another DLSR system. But know knows? Maybe if the Sony can truly offset its cost by working with my old Minolta lenses...

I am not really name brand specific (most other brands deserve their merits), but having begun with Minolta and finding it trusty for my purpose, I'm afraid I already developed a "sentimental" (if not financial) attachment to my Minolta and all it's accessories.

Thanks for the link!

nickle

June 29th, 2009, 02:33 PM

You seem to have a good eye, sir, being able to recognize those lenses from so small a picture! http://bestsmileys.com/thumbs/7.gif

I have considered buying the Sony when it first came into the market but hesitated due to the (apparent) high cost of the system. As I'm not really sure if I'm completely sold on digital, it make take considerable effort on my part to start on yet another DLSR system. But know knows? Maybe if the Sony can truly offset its cost by working with my old Minolta lenses...

I am not really name brand specific (most other brands deserve their merits), but having begun with Minolta and finding it trusty for my purpose, I'm afraid I already developed a "sentimental" (if not financial) attachment to my Minolta and all it's accessories.

Thanks for the link!

Sony uses carl zeiss lenses that take very sharp images. Minolta, for some reason, invested more on camera bodies. Unfortunately, photography has more to do with the lenses. Nevertheless, I once had an x700 and my favorite lense to match it was a fast MD 21mm. I took many good pictures with it. You can also enjoy your minolta if you keep your lenses in good and clean condition. Better if you could upgrade to nikon.... they make better lenses.

Wide_Load

June 29th, 2009, 03:05 PM

..And Nikon adapts to a wider range of aftermarket lenses from other manufacturers. Your X-700 is a nice one too. My old Minolta set really began as a wedding gift to ourselves, what to document the new family's (especially the baby) growth together. Prior to this, all I worked with were point and shoot 110's, 126's, and 35 mm's.

Little did I expect it to last this long (and cost this much).

Admittedly nowadays though, most normal photographs I take with a digital. :)

More happy snapping to you, sir. :)

majongero

June 30th, 2009, 05:50 PM

SphinX

June 30th, 2009, 09:00 PM

Most Nikon film lenses are compatible to the DSLR bodies.

I'm planning on shopping in Hidalgo one of these days.

A friend has lent me a film slr and I'm planning to use it in one of my outdoor shoots.

Get into film. It's good for you. :)

wow, i thought im the only one going back in time.. i use some of my dads nikon slr before and fond of using it until they are sold bec of some financial reasons. anyway im also looking for a good slr film camera.. any suggestions?? want to try it again.. hope i could find one.. thanks!:)

Wide_Load

July 1st, 2009, 08:17 AM

wow, i thought im the only one going back in time.. i use some of my dads nikon slr before and fond of using it until they are sold bec of some financial reasons. anyway im also looking for a good slr film camera.. any suggestions?? want to try it again.. hope i could find one.. thanks!:)

On a similar thread, some pics I took many years ago using the film equipment I described:

http://www.motorcyclephilippines.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3198658&postcount=52

On that page, click on the uppermost right THREAD link to see if you can also glean information about ideal camera choices for you from the discussion there.

SphinX

July 1st, 2009, 02:25 PM

On a similar thread, some pics I took many years ago using the film equipment I described:

http://www.motorcyclephilippines.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3198658&postcount=52

On that page, click on the uppermost right THREAD link to see if you can also glean information about ideal camera choices for you from the discussion there.

thanks! nice pics btw.. may canvass muna ko sa hidalgo and tingin sa net kung ano maganda.. baka mag canon na rin lang ako.. hehehe:D

Wide_Load

July 17th, 2009, 03:04 PM

It's the 50th anniversary of the OLYMPUS PEN camera, ladies and gentlmen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympus_Pen

Have you seen this nice video tribute to it and the joy of photography throughout our years growing up?

<object width="560" height="340"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/m9Et7UQh1tg&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/m9Et7UQh1tg&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="560" height="340"></embed></object>

Be sure to read the author's description on how it was done. Enjoy. :)

nickle

July 18th, 2009, 12:22 AM