Good day,

Since negotation or talks with LTO is still in process while the LTO new guidelines still eating our fellow riders on the street. What can we do if we get apprehended by the LTO, MMDA, TMG or whoever that is allowed to implement the new guideline.

Are we just gonna give in to what they want?

or

Are we gonna fight for our right and to what we believe in to the point that we argue with them (LTO.. etc) and insist that what they are doing is wrong and is disrespectful to our rights?

Please give your inputs on this. What can we do once caught by these people?

TIPS badly needed. TIA

we will wait and see what will happen sa negotiation.. !

Honestly, I can't bear watching our fellow riders being eaten by these sharks while waiting for something to happen...

Araw araw, parami ng parami ang nagiging biktima nito...

Tapos pati tayo, we ride in fear na madale din ng mga damuhong nang aabuso sa batas na wala naman proper guidelines at information dissemination sa publiko...

Pag makipag talo ka sa mga ungas na yan, mahahatulan ka pa ng obstruction...

Ay ewan!

we will wait and see what will happen sa negotiation.. !

Yes, we wait and see... but what if on the process of waiting eh.. we get caught violationg "modification"?

Can we start an argument with them, make excuses? but like what sir click me stated, makakasuhan ka pa ng obstruction, just by defending and standing for what you believe in... (sigh)

Sayang naman po kung magbayad ako ng penalty then after a week eh na suspend yung implementation ng guidlines.

The only solution I can think of, if arguing is out of option, is not to use my MC until the result of the negotiation. (ang hirap nito)

kung ako lang ang masusunod... il take it to the streets... kawawa naman ung mga mahuhuli habang nakikipag-negotiate ung mga kapatid natin sa MCP... nde lang naman isa o dalawa ang nahuhuli araw araw.. panu naman ung mga taong sapat lang ang kinikita sa isang araw para sa pamilya nya.. tas mahuhuli lang at ipangtutubos ung kinita nya.... hay...... this is unaacceptable!

Yes, we wait and see... but what if on the process of waiting eh.. we get caught violationg "modification"?

Can we start an argument with them, make excuses? but like what sir click me stated, makakasuhan ka pa ng obstruction, just by defending and standing for what you believe in... (sigh)

Sayang naman po kung magbayad ako ng penalty then after a week eh na suspend yung implementation ng guidlines.

The only solution I can think of, if arguing is out of option, is not to use my MC until the result of the negotiation. (ang hirap nito)

It can be an option yes... To you and some other individuals who can make use of other modes of transportation...

But, how about the people who makes a living on their bikes? The delivery people, the messengers, the mail men? How about them? If they don't work they don't get paid... If the work and get caught, the sharks are the ones who get paid...

Eto na ba Pilipinas ngayon? Lahat tayo e saklaw na ng mga BUWAYANG yan?!?

sana naman i post ng MCPF yung mga napag usapan nila.. for us to know din kung tama or mali sa napag usapan... just to be sure:D

Yung mga actual na nahuli at tiniketan (hindi naglagay ha?) dahil sa mga bagong guidelines na ito (memo pa lang daw) ano ang tiniket sa inyo? Nasa inyo pa ba yung tiket?

Lets analyze:

"Always On headlight / Daytime headlights"
- Anong violation ang sinabi ng AO sa inyo?
- Nagpaticket ba kayo?
- if given a ticket, ano pong violation nakasulat sa ticket?

“Protective devices” shall include helmet, goggles, leather boots and protective clothing such as heavy pants, heavy jackets, leather gloves and rain suit.
- ano suot nyo nung nahuli kayo?
- Anong violation ang sinabi ng AO sa inyo?
- Nagpaticket ba kayo?
- if given a ticket, ano pong violation nakasulat sa ticket?

d) For modifying any part of the original designs of a motorcycle or scooter without approval of the LTO and the DTI, a fine of Two Thousand Pesos (P2,000.00).
- anong modification daw ang sinabi ng AO?
- Anong action taken ng AO? Ticket? Removed plate no? Impound?
- if given a ticket, ano pong violation nakasulat sa ticket?

a) For failure of driver/rider and/or back rider to wear prescribed helmet, a fine of One Thousand Five Hundred Pesos (P1,500.00) with accessory penalty of driver/rider attending a seminar or traffic safety management to be conducted by the LTO.
- and -
8. “Standard helmet” shall mean the protective helmet approved by the Department of Trade and Industry (DTI) with PNS-UNECE 22 marking.
- Anong violation ang sinabi ng AO sa inyo?
- Nagpaticket ba kayo?
- if given a ticket, ano pong violation nakasulat sa ticket?

4. “Lane splitting” shall mean using or sharing a lane already occupied by one vehicle by another vehicle such as a motorcycle or scooter in a road or highway.

- Anong violation ang sinabi ng AO sa inyo?
- Nagpaticket ba kayo?
- if given a ticket, ano pong violation nakasulat sa ticket?


First person accounts lang po kung pwede (not hearsay).

Mga kapatid,

I think that all of us should unite and stand up for our cause. I often wonder bakit ung mga tricycles hindi naman pineperwisyo ng mga sharks. Then it hit me...it's because everytime titirahin sila, nagkakasundo sila and they take to the streets. Propagated by their respective TODAS our three-wheeled brethren musters enough strength and voice to fend off policies that are against them. Remember what they did when the government was trying to impose the ban on 2-stroke motorcycles? Kaya hangang ngayon nandito pa din sila. Now, unless we unite and make our voices heard, walang mangyayari sa mga hinaing natin. Walang pilian, kahit panget, maganda, bago, luma and mc mo basta road-worthy dapat makiisa ka. dapat makialam ka! So sa mga medyo malalaking orgs out there...I implore you guys to please take the initiative. Unite us and let's make our voices heard. E pluribus, unum!

i have replaced my fairing to a new design not from the original one,
nabasag po kasi because of my clumcyness,
bakit pako magpalit ng stock ulit, eh sa mas mura yung fairing kesa sa mabibili ko sa service centre?
anu po comment nyo dito?
sakop po ba ito ng "original design" stated sa memo na yan???
sakop din po ba ang mga "tricycle at drivers" dito???

there are a few things you can do if you have the time:

1. Check with DTI/LTO for the following things:
1.1 Obtain a list of DTI-approved helmets currently sold in the market (if there is any)
1.2 Obtain a list of approved heavy jackets and heavy pants, boots, rainsuits
2. Ask DTI/LTO pointblank (preferably recorded) if the LTO/Police Traffic Enforcers are covered (included) or not by/in the Administrative Order AHS-2008-015/DOT 123
3. Obtain an approval or permit of your GIVI Carrier Boxes, Modified Shock Absorbers, Modified Seats, Modified Stickers, Modified Lights, Modified Tires, Modified Switches, Modified Mufflers, Modified Footrests, Modified Brake Discs, Modified Faces, etcetera, etcetera... (If that is what they want, might as well "flood" them with it...) Let's see how they deal with 1 million motorcycle requests for modification approvals (and might as well do it all in one day, perhaps we organize a set date and go all at one time to DTI and file an application)

You can add to this list if you want, this is all i can think of at the moment... :O

And while you're at it, bring your maong pants, jackets, boots, gloves, shoes, rainsuits, helmets, givi boxes and ask for the DTI Officer to put a seal on it so that you can officially use it when you ride your motorcycle.

just for the fun of it, let's all bring 7 pairs of maong pants, jackets, shirts, gloves and have them approved by the DTI/LTO, that should keep them busy... And let's all hope they get so sick of it they will probably scrap the AO :)

3. Obtain an approval or permit of your GIVI Carrier Boxes, Modified Shock Absorbers, Modified Seats, Modified Stickers, Modified Lights, Modified Tires, Modified Switches, Modified Mufflers, Modified Footrests, Modified Brake Discs, Modified Faces, etcetera, etcetera... (If that is what they want, might as well "flood" them with it...) Let's see how they deal with 1 million motorcycle requests for modification approvals (and might as well do it all in one day, perhaps we organize a set date and go all at one time to DTI and file an application)

Then they tell you to come back after three months to obtain your permit... :banana:

Then they tell you to come back after three months to obtain your permit... :banana:

...and btw, it costs 2000 pesos a pop... :O

meron na ba sa tiket nila yung mga bagong violation?

civil disobedience

if you can wait, then wait. in the meantime, pag ako natsempuhan sa ganyan, i'd document everything from start till they issue me a ticket (via cam phone).

this means WAR. the LTO has declared war on the motorcycle community. time to protest & fight for our rights.

civil disobediencei'm usually privy and against such move........yet if this is what they're asking for, we give it to them!!!!!:o:o:o


i'm pretty sure that any politician that would vent & help in our plight would get the most of the biker population votes.......:rolleyes:

We are being discriminated folks... There is no more doubt in my mind that we are bing singled out...

Everybody needs to see what is happening to the motorcycle community in this forsaken country!!!

We have fallen into LTO's deaf ears... MCPF has been fooled... (http://bikerpinoy.blogspot.com/2008/08/lto-has-fallen-into-deaf-ears-mcpf-has.html)

www.bikerpinoy.blogspot.com

Read up and pass on to everybody you know...

i'm usually privy and against such move........yet if this is what they're asking for, we give it to them!!!!!:o:o:o


i'm pretty sure that any politician that would vent & help in our plight would get the most of the biker population votes.......:rolleyes:

"The strength and power of despotism consists wholly in the FEAR of RESISTANCE." - Thomas Paine

stand up & fight for your rights, we must resist against this tyrannical guideline. :angry:

umpisahan na yan... sa lunes siguradong nag kalat ang mga buhaya sa kalye para maka pag gatas ng malake lake.... hihintayin pa ba natin toh.... rally na!!!!!

We are being discriminated folks...

.

thats it.. . ..

i always support the govt. in every thing it does and implements, but ordinances and laws like this compels me and other person to turn their back against these government agencies. sana nag-iisip sila ng tama.
wag na nilang hintayin na sa streets pa ito makarating at cgurado mapuputukan ang nakaisip nito.

i always support the govt. in every thing it does and implements, but ordinances and laws like this compels me and other person to turn their back against these government agencies. sana nag-iisip sila ng tama.
wag na nilang hintayin na sa streets pa ito makarating at cgurado mapuputukan ang nakaisip nito.

pustahan tayo, walang aamin kung sino talaga nag-isip ng guideline na yun, lahat sila magtuturuan, walang aamin. :rolleyes:

To TS permission po to use this thread to announce something. It is somehow related naman sa topic.

PMT and BMP who is planning to organize the rally on monday is notifying everyone that we have decided to postpone the rally for the following
reasons:

1.) Bad weather condition, according to pag-asa maulan till tuesday baka po ito kasi ang maging main factor kung bakit konti ang maka-attend even from our ranks.
2.) We've failed to secure permit due to short of prep time, friday lang po kasi kami nag-announce, pero even though without permit we can hold a rally and its guaranteed by the law that we have the right to assemble.

3) We are about to submit on monday our letter to LTO, i think its not ethical to hold a rally without it.

As much as I want this action to push through, but we are really constrained with external and technical factors. We will keep you posted on an earlier date kung kailan matutuloy ang rally and we hope that we are one and united in this struggle, talikuran muna natin ang ating differences, MCPeans or not, should unite para sa kapakanan ng mga mananakay.

Eto po ang aming letter of appeal sa LTO to be submitted on monday. Open po ito sa mga club at indiviudual na mag sign up. Basahin niyo lang po ng mabuti. This is an immediate relief for us pag ginawa ng LTO ito. Salamat sa article ni sir CLICK_ME, napag hugutan ko ito ng infos to make this letter.:clap:



A LETTER OF APPEAL TO THE OFFICIALS OF LTO


With the growing cost of oil and living expenses in the Philippines, a lot of our fellow countrymen have looked for cheaper ways of getting to work.

A good percentage of our people still look towards public transportation. However, with the growing number of people in the country, having to ply through thousands and thousands of people each day just to get from their homes to their work place is an exhausting experience. And once more, the travel from work to their homes drains the last remainder of energy they have to provide quality time for their families.

Now, with the increase of gasoline prices, a lot of our vehicle owners are looking for alternative means of transportation.

Over the past few years, the motorcycle population has grown and has given a lot of businesses and manufacturers a source of income on motorcycle sales, parts, accessories and services. This gave a lot of Filipino workers a lot of jobs in the manufacturing plants, distributors and retail stores for motorcycles and accessory shops.

A certain issue regarding new laws was passed by the LTO has rocked the motorcycle riding community recently. This is the new law known as ADMINISTRATIVE ORDER NO. AHS-2008-015. Indicating the proper attire and gear for all motorcycle users and regulating/prohibiting modifications on motorcycles.

While we are supportive of this new law and its objective to promote and enforce safety in riding, we the member-riders from Pagkakaisa ng Manggagawa sa Transportasyon (PMT), Bukluran ng Manggagawang Pilipino (BMP) and Sanlakas is appealing to temporarily suspend the implementation of the said guidelines for the following reasons.

1.) Some of the provisions from the guidelines must be amended due to its vagueness and lack of detailed scope. (e.g. Section VI “Any modification of the original standard design of a motorcycle or scooter shall first be subject to the approval of LTO and the DTI.”).
2.) Lack of Public consultation, particularly from the rider’s community.
3.) Lack of public information regarding the guidelines which created massive confusion and panic among the riders that also resulted to indiscriminate apprehensions by the enforcers (LTO, MMDA and LOCAL ENFORCERS).

While the proposed temporary suspension is in effect, we are also proposing that LTO should conduct a public consultation with the concerned riders in aid of improving the guidelines. This will help us formulate laws that are effective and not prejudicial to the rights of the motorcycle riding community.

We are hoping for your urgent response to this matter for the welfare of the motorcycle riding public.

Dante Lagman
Secretary General
Pagkakaisa ng Manggagawa sa Transportasyon (PMT)


Leody De Guzman
President
Bukluran ng Manggagawang Pilipino (BMP)

sana pakingan nila yang sulat mu sir...

kasi kung aku sa katayuan ng LTO... pakikingan lang yan sa kabilang tenga then labas sa kablia... sorry pero yun ang aking pananaw sa gobyerno.. bakit... dahil dyan cla mag kakapera... malaking halaga ang penalty nila dito.. and they will do anything para mapatupad yan... i'm just saying what kurakot mineded people think..

ito dapat natin pag handaan...

pustahan tayo, walang aamin kung sino talaga nag-isip ng guideline na yun, lahat sila magtuturuan, walang aamin. :rolleyes:

parang yung plate number sticker on helmet ba sir? nung una, nagbibida bidahan, nung bandang huli, nagturuan? :D

sir don pangan, are you not going to issue a detailed critique of the administrative order?

for example, how does one determine "heavy pants, heavy jackets" ? will the LTO officers now be carrying weighing scales? :rolleyes:

You can also check if it has been published in a newspaper of general circulation. I seem to recall that it should be published before it can have legal effect. the lawyers amongst us can best explain.

i share the view that a suspension of the AO is a reasonable demand. Perhaps the MCPF can carry this position in its dialogue with the concerned LTO officials.

heavy pants and heavy jackets?? hhhmmmm... e di dapat palitan narin nila ang uniform ng mga law enforcers na gumagamit ng motor.. ang alam ko walang exempted sa batas... kung gusto nila mag maong tau edi mag maon din cla... diba??

heavy pants and heavy jackets?? hhhmmmm... e di dapat palitan narin nila ang uniform ng mga law enforcers na gumagamit ng motor.. ang alam ko walang exempted sa batas... kung gusto nila mag maong tau edi mag maon din cla... diba??

madalas sila pa nga tong gumagamit ng motor na expired na ang rehistro (un iba nga taon na ang binilang nung huling nirehistro)

I am pointing this opinion more on the modification of the motorcycle.

IMHO, Just in case na mahuli ka, try to talk your way and make the enforcer realize that if he considers that what he is doing is right.

..tapos lay down nyo na comparisons and ideas nyo regarding sa motorcycle nyo, sa iba at sa kanila..

I am pretty sure na mahabang talunan nyan, pero if you look at the overview, we have an advantage. Why? because like us, other enforcers also have patrol bikes that are modified...baka ung iba nga jan may tricycle na pankabuhayan pa e, and YES! of course these bikes are modified already, (ex. fairings, containers, side car). They implemented this law and therefore no body escapes from it. NOT EVEN THEM!

..so ask them now who is violating??..

I dunno, pero looks like this law was just implemented because the motorcycle industry/market is booming here in the Philippines, A perfect target for those sharks...

I don't even know if this law has a case study...if ever there was, the person who approved it better think twice...and reconsider a lot of facts.

I think that this law that they just implemented affects almost everyone here in the country. From daily riders to business owners to enthusiasts and even there own enforcers will be affected.

Let's respect their concern about the negative causes of having a motorcycle such as get-a-way vehicle for robbery, accidents, illegal racing...etc.. as a transportation/road organization, it's their job to fix these problems.

...but this action that they are implementing is just not an instant light bulb coming out of their heads that they can implement in a snap. they better think carefully about this action. this would really take time for them.

All I can see now, is that if this goes on, there is no second doubt that war would arise among riders who just cannot take it anymore against those sharks..

Let's hope and pray this problem would be fixed ASAP, kawawa naman mga fellow riders natin. sitting ducks sila..and we could be next...

Ride safer!:*

sir don pangan, are you not going to issue a detailed critique of the administrative order?

for example, how does one determine "heavy pants, heavy jackets" ? will the LTO officers now be carrying weighing scales? :rolleyes:

You can also check if it has been published in a newspaper of general circulation. I seem to recall that it should be published before it can have legal effect. the lawyers amongst us can best explain.

i share the view that a suspension of the AO is a reasonable demand. Perhaps the MCPF can carry this position in its dialogue with the concerned LTO officials.

Yup sir noted add ko yan, salamat sa paalala target to maipadala ng monday pa naman.
Yung kung na publish ba eh understood na yun sa "lack of information" so far kse sa peoples journal palang natin nakita ang announcement na yan. news type pa at walang naka publish na mismong guidelines.

perhaps you can consult atty JV Bautista about the legality of an AO being applied retroactively. If modifications to a motorcycle were done prior to the issuance of the AO then the AO should not apply.

Again i reiterate my suggestion that your group comes up with a position paper on the AO to clarify matters. Even a FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) paper can be done and posted so that we avoid numerous threads on the same topic. It also serves to unite the motorcycle community on what are the issues at hand.

my best regards to the secgen of sanlakas.

Habang wala pang konkretong aksyon mula sa mga liderato ng mga magmomotor kelangan po muna nating dumiskarte laban sa mga diskarte ng mga sari-saring buwaya sa kalye.

Illegal Modification of Motorcycle (Fine: P2,500):

Diskarte nila (Apprehending Officers)
Maging alerto ka sa mga catch phrases and scare tactics ng mga AO.

Multa - "Sa dami ng violation mo, ang laki ng multang lalabas nito...PX,XXX.00 (four figures).
Seminar - "Hindi lang multa ito. Seminar pa bagsak mo. Ilang araw ka rin hindi makakapasok."
Confiscate - "Pwedeng ma confiscate license mo, plaka mo dahil illegal modification yan."
Impound - "Gusto mo bang ma-impound itong motor mo?"


Diskarte natin (MC riders)
- gumamit ka din ng catch phrases na pambara sa kanila tulad ng

Official Copy of Guidelines - "Ah bawal po ba? Pwede ko po bang makita ang official copy of guidelines?"
Retroactive: - "Hindi po sinasaad sa guidelines niyo na retroactive itong mga batas na ito sa mga sina-unang modifications."
Illegal Apprehension - "Pagipinilit nyo po sa akin itong violation na ito, malinaw na illegal apprehension ito. Kokontestahin ko ito at masasayang oras nating pareho sa korte. Imbes na nanghuhuli kayo, nakatali din oras niyo sa korte. (Read: Hindi kayo makakakotong, kayo rin.)"
Hulidap - "Sir kung ipipilit nyo itong violation na ito, eh tutukan nyo muna ako ng baril ninyo para makumpleto ko kaso kong hulidap laban sa inyo.(Read: Allergic ang mga pulis sa word na "hulidap". Kahit maliit na bahid ng "hulidap" ayaw nila sa record nila. Something to do with their pensions.)

Ang importante kontestahin mo ang bawat violation para masayang oras nila. Kung baga sa call center, humahaba ang average handling time (AHT) nila sa iyo. Habang nakikipagtalo sila sa iyo, nalalagpasan sila ng iba pang madadaling huli (missed opportunities) eh ang habol nila makarami ng huli.

Wala na po tayong magagawa sa mga mangmang (uninformed) na non MCP riders, ang importante for the meantime, tayong mga taga MCP ay informed at may laban.

Habang wala pang konkretong aksyon mula sa mga liderato ng mga magmomotor kelangan po muna nating dumiskarte laban sa mga diskarte ng mga sari-saring buwaya sa kalye.

Illegal Modification of Motorcycle (Fine: P2,500):

Diskarte nila (Apprehending Officers)
Maging alerto ka sa mga catch phrases and scare tactics ng mga AO.

Multa - "Sa dami ng violation mo, ang laki ng multang lalabas nito...PX,XXX.00 (four figures).
Seminar - "Hindi lang multa ito. Seminar pa bagsak mo. Ilang araw ka rin hindi makakapasok."
Confiscate - "Pwedeng ma confiscate license mo, plaka mo dahil illegal modification yan."
Impound - "Gusto mo bang ma-impound itong motor mo?"


Diskarte natin (MC riders)
- gumamit ka din ng catch phrases na pambara sa kanila tulad ng

Official Copy of Guidelines - "Ah bawal po ba? Pwede ko po bang makita ang official copy of guidelines?"
Retroactive: - "Hindi po sinasaad sa guidelines niyo na retroactive itong mga batas na ito sa mga sina-unang modifications."
Illegal Apprehension - "Pagipinilit nyo po sa akin itong violation na ito, malinaw na illegal apprehension ito. Kokontestahin ko ito at masasayang oras nating pareho sa korte. Imbes na nanghuhuli kayo, nakatali din oras niyo sa korte. (Read: Hindi kayo makakakotong, kayo rin.)"
Hulidap - "Sir kung ipipilit nyo itong violation na ito, eh tutukan nyo muna ako ng baril ninyo para makumpleto ko kaso kong hulidap laban sa inyo.(Read: Allergic ang mga pulis sa word na "hulidap". Kahit maliit na bahid ng "hulidap" ayaw nila sa record nila. Something to do with their pensions.)

Ang importante kontestahin mo ang bawat violation para masayang oras nila. Kung baga sa call center, humahaba ang average handling time (AHT) nila sa iyo. Habang nakikipagtalo sila sa iyo, nalalagpasan sila ng iba pang madadaling huli (missed opportunities) eh ang habol nila makarami ng huli.

Wala na po tayong magagawa sa mga mangmang (uninformed) na non MCP riders, ang importante for the meantime, tayong mga taga MCP ay informed at may laban.

i agree! Ü

Rider safer!:*

perhaps you can consult atty JV Bautista about the legality of an AO being applied retroactively. If modifications to a motorcycle were done prior to the issuance of the AO then the AO should not apply.

Again i reiterate my suggestion that your group comes up with a position paper on the AO to clarify matters. Even a FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) paper can be done and posted so that we avoid numerous threads on the same topic. It also serves to unite the motorcycle community on what are the issues at hand.

my best regards to the secgen of sanlakas.

All your suggestions are being considered sir. Sanlakas with the team of lawyers are now studying the AO to furnish a concrete legal action. Thank you sir and ill send your regards to our leadership. :)

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Thank you!

Malinaw po na kun sino man ang nakaisip nito ay sobrang bobo or galit sa mga naka motor.
"Modified" - halos wala sigurong sasakyan ka makikita dito satin na hindi modified.
Mapa kotse, truck, bus, jeep at tricycle karamihan nagpalit na ng gulong, rim, seat cover, mufler etc. na hindi na factory equipment or OE. Bakit tayo lang nakamotor puntirya nito?
Yun mga suplus na kotse, suv, van at truck na nasa lansangan karamihan ay modified from right hand drive. Yun LPG taxi, bus at Jeep ay modified ang engine. Yun mga jeepney na public transport ay di lang modified kundi frankenstein, halohalo parts ang ibat ibang sasakyan na binuo etc....etc....etc.....madami pang modifications sa ibat-ibang uri ng saskyan kung iisaisahin di lang sa motor.
Sige nga, i impliment nyo ng patas yang batas na yan sa lahat ng sasakyan at di ako aangal. Aber...?!

Sa tingin ko po talagang pinagiinitan lang talaga nila tayong mga nakamotor at hindi naman talaga safety ang motivation nila dito.
Kun safety man, meron ba silang malinaw na datos na ang dahilan ng mga aksidente ay modification sa motor? Ilang pursyento ng mga aksidente sa motor na ang dahilan ay modification? Karamihan sa naobserbahan ko na dahilan ng aksidente sa motor ay Lasing ang driver or dumulas ang "stock or factory equiped na gulong".
Wala pa ata ako nabalitaan na naaksidente dahil naka rearset or dahil nagpalit ng flairing or shocks or dahil sa graphics ng body or dahil aftermarket ang pipes.
Tignan nyo ng mabuti kung safety talaga ang issue.....ewan ko lang.

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diba ang mga tricycle ay mga modified na motor din? edi huhulihin LAHAT ng tricycle? ano kaya ang reaction ng mga TODA dito?

pwede ba tayo humingi nga tulong sa media?? ke tulfo? ke mike enriquez..??

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pwede ba tayo humingi nga tulong sa media?? ke tulfo? ke mike enriquez..??

Dapat isumbong natin kay Bonggang-bonggang Bongbong yan eh...ah este, kay Ben Tulfo pala... :D

Sana naglabas ng listahan ng approved modifications ang LTO/DTI para sa motorsiklo/scooter na meron sila, kasama ng guidelines na inilabas para malinaw ang lahat. Kung wala, paano malalaman alin ang ipinatutupad nila.

Sa mga dealers at retailers ng motorcycle parts, sana may listahan na sila ng mga LTO/DTI approved modifications para madaling bumili at di maging sitahin pag gamit na ito sa ating kalsada.

kotse mode muna... sana may magbomba sa LTO :rolleyes:

ano kaya nangyari sa usapan ni sir jojo at sir boy g. sa batas na ito may result na kaya???????????

anyone here sa mcp att. sir jojo at sir boy g.