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Elijah
July 23rd, 2004, 11:49 AM
Where can I find the cheapest leather gear? ang mahal kasi ng mga nakikita ko sa mga malls. :( Meron bang nabibili less than 2k? :{

spdfgtr
July 23rd, 2004, 12:21 PM
If you happen to see a brand new leather motorcycle jacket retailing for Php2T chances are that it is constructed out of synthetic leather. It will provide protection in case of a spill but genuine leather (either goatskin, cow or what have you) will provide the best protection against road rash. Another thing to consider is that Synthetics usually dont last long if exposed sa elements like rain, sun, dust etc. You will end up buying another one in a short span of time.

Elijah
July 23rd, 2004, 12:25 PM
I think I've seen one of those 'fake' leathers, pag nababasa nagiging 'rubbery'. *ick!*

then what's the minimum price I could get for genuine ones?

brogger
July 23rd, 2004, 12:37 PM
OT: does anybody here owns/wear a leather jacket? hindi ba masyadong mainit ito? how is it compare to mesh jackets? (pro & cons). meron bang leather jacket suitable for hot/warm climate? if shopping for leathers what do u usually look for? i.e comfort, style, warm/cool...etc.

littlebadboy
July 23rd, 2004, 02:04 PM
try ukay ukay!

Alitaptap
July 23rd, 2004, 02:28 PM
OT: does anybody here owns/wear a leather jacket? hindi ba masyadong mainit ito? how is it compare to mesh jackets? (pro & cons). meron bang leather jacket suitable for hot/warm climate? if shopping for leathers what do u usually look for? i.e comfort, style, warm/cool...etc.

Yo bro!!!

I have one, lahat naman ng leather jackets mainet pag sinuot mo considering the very humid weather dito sa atin. I only use my leather sa gabi or kung maulan. nasubukan ko na itong jacket ko after riding in a heavy downpour for almost an hour. Ayun medyo nagpawis lang sa loob ng lining, but after wiping with a cloth ang lining, very comfy pa ring isuot and mind you madaling natuyo. Two months ko na siyang ginagamit, nagamit ko thrice sa katanghaliang tapat. so far hindi naman nagcrack ang pagkaleather nya.

If you want, Today is friday! punta ka sa tambayan namin sa Petron , betterliving, Paranaque along Dona Soledad. Mga 9 pm. Me binebenta akong leather jacket, dark brownish maroon ang kulay never been used, 1,500 ko lang binebenta, tingnan mo baka magustuhan mo

C U den bro!!!

my cell no is 09182465281

Rage
July 23rd, 2004, 03:26 PM
OT: does anybody here owns/wear a leather jacket? hindi ba masyadong mainit ito? how is it compare to mesh jackets? (pro & cons). meron bang leather jacket suitable for hot/warm climate? if shopping for leathers what do u usually look for? i.e comfort, style, warm/cool...etc.

Before I had my mesh jacket (which I don't have na :D), I use a very thick and heavy leather jacket. It's kinda hot nga because hindi perforated yung leather pero I prefer to wear that rather than exposing my skin to direct sunlight specially at noontime and not to mention the road rash na maari mong makuha if ever na mag-spill ka. But if you're after the leather+mesh combination, I suggest you get the Joe Rocket na Reactor or the Fieldsheer Sonic Air or Mach2. If you're going to shop for leathers, set aside mo muna yung "coolness" factor and prioritize on safety...

My Two cents... :banana:

jeff_o
July 23rd, 2004, 06:46 PM
guys, i brought my leather jacket in baguio. they have lotsa varieties to choose from. hanapin niyo lang yung magaan at manipis. it's sitll with me pero di ko gano nagagamit dahil sa init. magagamit mo lang yan kapag cold season na gabi. otherwise bbq hin ka niyan. less than 2k may mahahanap ka pa. baguio palengke. pwede rin sa ukay ukay. pero di mo alam sino previous owner. malay mo sikat na rider pala pero may fungi :p hehehe :p i suggest brand new nalang ;)

Elijah
July 23rd, 2004, 07:07 PM
Been to baguio once, bagay na bagay diyan yung leather. Sayang di ko nakita yan sa palengke >.<

pongki_shawie
July 25th, 2004, 02:29 AM
hey guys medyo ot... how do you clean your leather jacks? how do you take care of the leather itself? is it advisable to dry clean it?

Yung iba kse.. they put baby oil on the leather after washing it...is this advisable?

TIA

elgatonegro
July 25th, 2004, 10:49 AM
hey guys medyo ot... how do you clean your leather jacks? how do you take care of the leather itself? is it advisable to dry clean it?

Yung iba kse.. they put baby oil on the leather after washing it...is this advisable?

TIA


buddy bro,
my friend usually bring his leather jacket @ wash and dry para hindi masira daw ang quality.

brogger
July 25th, 2004, 02:16 PM
pulsar & rage, thanks for your offer and information. I don't have a ride yet but probably will get one soon. So now im just keep my options opens kung ano ang mga bibilhin ko when I get my bike.

ride safely ... :)

jeff_o
July 25th, 2004, 08:52 PM
san yung wash n dry? laundry shop b ito? yung mga iba kasi di nagaaccept kasi takot sila masira yung leather daw eh. ang sabi nman sakin sa baguio use wipe out daw. ako nman i use armour all. or yung parang armour all basta yung pwede pang leather. ;)

pongki_shawie
July 26th, 2004, 02:34 AM
san yung wash n dry? laundry shop b ito? yung mga iba kasi di nagaaccept kasi takot sila masira yung leather daw eh. ang sabi nman sakin sa baguio use wipe out daw. ako nman i use armour all. or yung parang armour all basta yung pwede pang leather. ;)


wipe out or MC will do siguro.. thanks :D

mutoy
July 26th, 2004, 08:06 AM
I think it's "Jake" who posted this before, correct me if I'm wrong. I copied and saved it as a text file on my computer. Let me paste a copy of the article here. :banana:


Leather: Theory

Leather is basically skin. Like skin, leather requires oils to keep it supple and soft, flexible and to keep it from chaffing and cracking. Unlike live skin, leather doesn't get renewed from below, nor does it produce it's own oils to maintain itself. Most of the treatments for leather are very similar to the equivalent processes for skin: gentle soaps for cleaning, conditioners (think hand lotion) for keeping it from drying out, etc.


Leather: Maintenance

Leather has several stages of maintenance that you will want to do to keep it in optimal condition:

* Sealing: Sealing is the act of making leather waterproof, such as boots that you will walk through puddles with. It is also useful for leathers that are used in car interiors (to help keep that spilled soda from soaking in), and for leather used on motorcycles (because it sucks to sit on a soggy seat, or have your leather saddle bag contents get wet). Moreover, sealing generally provides some method of sealing up the seams at the edges of the leather, as well as holes where the leather has been perforated, such as where different pieces are sewn together. Sealants come in a few varieties and a heap of different brand names. For items where surface oil exposure isn't critical (outside of jackets, etc), or where the product will have at least a day to absorb it, we tend to recommend products that are high in mink oil content (such as Kiwi brand Mink Oil treatment), because mink oils are particularly good at moisturizing & softening the leather at the same time as it seals it. For surfaces where possible oil-transference becomes an issue, especially when the item will be used immediately after sealing, we recommend bee's wax based sealants instead.

- When to seal leather: Seal leather when you first acquire it, and whenever it demonstrates a tendency to absorb water-based liquids. If you need to strip or dye the leather, do those steps before sealing it.

* Stripping: Stripping leather is the act of removing all oils from the leather. By using a light petroleum-based solvent, such as zippo lighter fluid (Naphthalene usually), the oils & sealants in the leather are removed, exposing the raw leather below and prepping it for dying.

- When to strip leather: This process is only used if the leather has a plasticized layer (when new) that would prevent a sealant (such as mink oil) from being absorbed, or when leather (used/aged) is discolored and needs to be dyed or redyed.

* Dying: Dying leather is the act of permanently staining (or restaining) leather to a specific color. Note that the leather must be stripped first for the dye to take readily. Leather dyes are available in a wide variety of colors, but normally can only be dyed to a darker color or back to the color it original was dyed (in cases of redyeing). Because of past experiences using it, we recommend Kiwi brand leather dyes, which are often available at grocery stores (at least in black) and shoe cobbler shops (in most colors).

- When to dye leather: If you have a light colored leather and desire to alter it's color (such as making white leather red, or brown leather black), or when you have aged/worn leather where the color has been scuffed off (such as on boots, seat bolstering, seat bottoms). You must strip the leather before dying in order for the dye to absorb properly. Note also that after dying, you must reseal the leather, and any portions unsealed (such as the inside of combat boots) may leak the dye out when exposed to human body oils or sweat.

* Conditioning: Conditioning leather is the act of adding oils, waxes or other moisturizers to leather in order to keep it supple and healthy. Dry leather will crack when flexed (such as the seat of you car flexes when you sit in it), while properly moisturized leather will flex without damage. If the leather is clean and sealed and has previously been conditioned, you can apply additional conditioner directly to the leather without any other prepping. If the leather is dirty, you should use a leather cleaner first to remove the dirt. Note that leather conditioners will often darken the appearance of most leathers.
There are a large number of leather conditioners on the market, with varying characteristics. Some excel at making the leather soft & well oiled, while others are better at adding a combination of a little bit of oil and a lot of wax (which helps keep the leather hard, but still protects it). The one thing that you will probably want to avoid is products with significant amounts of silicone or any petroleum products in the conditioner, as silicone & all petroleum products do not actually provide any true long-term benefit to the leather (they are not proper moisturizers, instead simply adding a film that makes the leather appear shiny -- but do not preventing from drying out). You can, however, substitute a good quality hand lotion or pure lanolin if you don't have access to, or desire to use, a leather conditioner.

- When to condition leather: Any time you want, plus whenever your leather starts to become excessively dry or hard. For car and motorcycle seats, we recommend doing so at least once per month for best benefit, more often in hot and dry environments (which cause the leather to dry out more quickly). In general, you can not over-condition leather no matter how much conditioner you use. Remember: cracked leather can not be uncracked (only redyed and replaced). If the leather is dirty, use a leather cleaner first. If the leather is worn, consider whether to strip, dye, seal and then condition the leather as an entire process to renew it.

* Cleaning/Soaping: Cleaning or soaping leather is the act of washing the surface of the leather to remove dirt, stains and excess oils (specifically ones which are retaining dirt or discoloration). Although there are a large number of products on the market for cleaning leather, we recommend using saddle soap (available at any grocery store in the shoe polish section) and following the directions, unless you are specifically trying to remove a certain brand's conditioner (in which case you should probably try that same brand's cleaner product). Note that the act of cleaning the leather is not the same as the concept of washing leather, but rather more akin to placing a foam or froth of gentle detergent on the surface -- you're not trying to soak the leather, but just clean the surface. Permit the excess liquids to dry before applying the conditioner after cleaning/soaping, and ALWAYS apply a conditioner after cleaning/soaping.

- When to clean/soap leather: If the surface of the leather has a discolored conditioner, motor oil, dirt, or other contaminants on it that can't simply be brushed away, clean/soap it before conditioning it. Using just a conditioner instead of cleaning it first will effectively trap the contaminants under the conditioner and expose the leather to it for a long period of time (which is not a good thing).

pongki_shawie
July 26th, 2004, 08:15 AM
Very informative Mutoy!!! Thanks!!! :cheers:

mutoy
July 26th, 2004, 08:39 AM
Very informative Mutoy!!! Thanks!!! :cheers:


My pleasure! :)

NikZ
July 26th, 2004, 06:43 PM
Hi peeps.....

sliding at 120kph you'll know what leather jackets are made for.

safe ride guys....

** meet you guys at MAKAPAGAL every friday & wednesday. **

sealander
September 15th, 2004, 10:28 PM
Where can I find the cheapest leather gear? ang mahal kasi ng mga nakikita ko sa mga malls. :( Meron bang nabibili less than 2k? :{

punta ka sa Dau dami dun..second hand lang nga pero quality is still good..1,500-2500 price range..pure/genuine leather

Johann
September 16th, 2004, 01:24 PM
Where can I find the cheapest leather gear? ang mahal kasi ng mga nakikita ko sa mga malls. :( Meron bang nabibili less than 2k? :{


pare ako laging nakaleather jacket. i have 4 leather jackets pero ias lang pang bike ko, a leather jacket for bike should be hard leather outside, with foam padding at cool feeling na cloth inside. nabili ko yung bike leather jacket ko for 1,200 sa ukay ukay sa may roosevelt, di ko lang alam kung may bago silang display, try mo din. regarding feel of leather jacket in warm days, sanayan lang, basta maganda tela sa loob ng jacket mo di ka naman masyado papawisan. make sure lang na may dala ka extra shirt.

The Growler
September 16th, 2004, 05:15 PM
Good post. Good leather, well taken care of as stated, will last for ever. Indeed the older it gets, the better it gets. And nothing else will protect you as well as leather. Unfortunately I have not found really good leather apparel in the RP, (apart from those fancy multi-colored things which cost a fortune)some excellent stuff comes from Pakistan at reasonable prices though. Or if you get to Bangkok, there are shops which will tailor-make superb leather for you in a day or so. I just got a beautiful vest made of goatskin for under US$70.

If you are buying a leather jacket, make it a bit of a loose fit so you can get some air circulation in hot weather. You will sweat, can't do much about that, you're a biker, right and that's part of the deal?! :) It's a trade-off between safety and some discomfort.
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For pants, get a size up from normal and make sure they are loose in the butt area. You will find when you are seated on the bike your butt will need the extra space. Likewise if the leg is a bit longer than normal that's not a bad thing because the pants leg will probably ride up a little.

Main thing is to keep your leather treated. If you can't find/afford the special leather dressings, Johnsons Baby Oil is fine for the time being. For cleaning, if you can find a saddlery shop (horses), saddle soap is by far the best method.
I have also used Turtle Wax leather upholstery cleaner for cars.

Useful tip if you have (like me) zip-side m/c boots, which are sometimes hard to do up without straining the zip fastener. Use a household candle to wax the zip.

Enyong666
September 20th, 2004, 03:38 PM
The Growler's right, you WILL sweat in leather. I bought my motorcycle jacket in Baguio 5 years ago and even used it on my last trip to the US (although I didn't ride). The nylon lining is really uncomfortable especially in Manila. I even wanted to change the lining to mesh material, but I relented because that meant undoing the original heavy duty stitches. I instead got mesh shirts so when I ride, I don't drip too much, just a bit hehehe. :O

You can still get them in Baguio at the Maharlika center right beside Baguio market fronting Session Road (from the botom). I think current prices hover at 2,500-3,000, depending on the cut (crazy or solid - more expensive). I haven't slid in them since I bought mine and I don't intend to (at least intentionally). :W

I don't use it as much as my mesh FoxRacing armor (which I wear on my everyday commute for the convenience) because of the heat. Styling wise, I like leathers a bit better because of the classic biker look as against the robocop look of mesh armors. Now I have a choice depending on my mood: Terminator or Predator, :> and :punk: Now go get some leathers! :nuts:

:C

monmon
September 22nd, 2004, 01:51 PM
did you get to sell the jacket already? i just got a scooter and need some accessories, i also live in merville....i need a mask for pollotion, jacket and helmet

Rebel250
October 4th, 2004, 04:03 PM
I got 3 leather Jackets. Lahat nabili ko sa ukay-ukay sa Baguio. Less than P800 yung pinakamahal and P350 yung pinakamura. Just go to the palengke in Baguio. Medyo madami kaya take your time in finding a good jacket. Haggle mo ng mabuti para babaan yung price. Tapos pag nakuha mo na, unang gawin mo spray mo ng lysol yung lining sa loob tapos bilad mo sa araw. Then afterwards bili ka ng 1 bottle of leather and vinyl restorer and spray the leather para lumambot and moisturize it.

Elijah
October 4th, 2004, 04:15 PM
what type of skin are the ones coming from Baguio? and where can I find some leather jacket made in Pakistan?(aside from Pakistan :D ) ( I happen to have a leather glove made in Pakistan, from Action Hobbies)

Rebel250
October 4th, 2004, 04:42 PM
It depends on what you got. I got calf-skin and goat skin leathers. One of my Leather jackets is made in Spain and is calf skin. The others one is made in Canada and its also calf skin. The other one is Italy and is made from Goat skin. They were real bargains, basta marunong ka lang maghanap. Took me the the entire morning just looking for 1 jacket that will fit me na gusto ko sa Baguio Ukay-ukay.

Good luck and Happy riding!

Elijah
October 4th, 2004, 04:47 PM
Thanks for the info :cheers: , but it'll be tough finding someone I might know in Baguio and have one delivered for me. Or maybe one of these days I could take my bike and head on there myself =)

gbv_69
October 4th, 2004, 11:25 PM
Rebel 250 ganda ng ride mo sa pilipinas mo ba nabili yang Honda Rebel mo ? kasi yan din ang gusto kong bilihin dito sa Texas at iuuwi ko sana pag bakasyon ko. We moved here a year ago at daming magagandang bike dito wala lang maraming pinoy riders kaya boring.magkano kaya diyan sa atin iyan ?