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lowandslow
January 28th, 2008, 08:44 PM
is it really worth it??

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Wills_McLaren
January 28th, 2008, 09:07 PM
basta at least certified helmet ay OK yan.

r_castanas
January 28th, 2008, 09:25 PM
for me, if your head is worth P700.00 or less then buy those cheap china made brand. its worth the price. hahaha..but IF you are taking care of yourself, safety concious you are, and most specially you are earnings 5 figures (P10,000 and up), then you are worth more than that and I advise you to definitely purchase a head gear that will protect your investment.

Wills_McLaren
January 28th, 2008, 09:30 PM
for me, if your head is worth P700.00 or less then buy those cheap china made brand. its worth the price. hahaha..but IF you are taking care of yourself, safety concious you are, and most specially you are earnings 5 figures (P10,000 and up), then you are worth more than that and I advise you to definitely purchase a head gear that will protect your investment.

ang sinasabi sir sa video ay parehong certified helmet.

pano kung 6 figures ang earnings sir? siguradong everyday ay iba ang helmet .. hehehe

lowandslow
January 28th, 2008, 09:31 PM
well sana po napanood nyo yung video and im not refering dun sa nabibili na helmet sa quiapo... please watch the video first before giving any comments :rolleyes:

supermanster
January 28th, 2008, 09:32 PM
may kasabihan nga tayo...

"You are be gettin what you are payin"

shan
January 28th, 2008, 09:38 PM
summary of the clip is get a dot snell certfied helmet and prices range on what features on the helmet like vent,foams,lining,weight and my answer is yes buying high end helmet is worth as long as you have the money

ch1ngy
January 28th, 2008, 09:47 PM
zeus helmet or the same category brands pwede na yun. yung super mahal na helmets hindi na practical. kasing presyo na ng 2nd hand na underbone eh

iCe213
January 28th, 2008, 10:01 PM
di ko makita yung video...:D

anu po ba yung nasa video? hehe

Wills_McLaren
January 28th, 2008, 10:02 PM
scorpion helmet yata yung isang helmet sa video di ba? yun yata ang pinaka murang helmet na snell certified siguro sa US.


Yung mga HJC CL-15 din kaya na binebenta sa US ay snell certified? yung nabili ko kasing agv gp1 galing US ay snell certified pero yung mga binebenta dito sa pinas ay hindi. Nagtataka lang ako kung anong pagkakaiba non?

supermanster
January 28th, 2008, 10:14 PM
scorpion helmet yata yung isang helmet sa video di ba? yun yata ang pinaka murang helmet na snell certified siguro sa US.


Yung mga HJC CL-15 din kaya na binebenta sa US ay snell certified? yung nabili ko kasing agv gp1 galing US ay snell certified pero yung mga binebenta dito sa pinas ay hindi. Nagtataka lang ako kung anong pagkakaiba non?

baka Meke fafi...

Freelancer, The
January 28th, 2008, 10:24 PM
scorpion helmet yata yung isang helmet sa video di ba? yun yata ang pinaka murang helmet na snell certified siguro sa US.


Yung mga HJC CL-15 din kaya na binebenta sa US ay snell certified? yung nabili ko kasing agv gp1 galing US ay snell certified pero yung mga binebenta dito sa pinas ay hindi. Nagtataka lang ako kung anong pagkakaiba non?

Ayun ang difference!Its not certified.

Ive TWO HJC's, The other for daytime and the other for night time. Both have the Dept of transportation SNELL approved (DOT)

at almost $200 its considered cheap.

In my experence ang ayaw sa local helmets or what you guys call low end, is UMAALOG and if i get a smaller, i could actually feel the inside surface of the helmet!
What pa kaya kung nadisgrasya while on that helmet? (-:

BUT like most, we settle kung anung meron or kung anung kaya...extra cautious na lang regardless kung high end or low end.

Its just a plus lang kung hi-end among friends or yung mga nakakakita like in school when i park, pag naglalakad na ako away from my bike, its the helmet that they look at!

act2000
January 28th, 2008, 10:51 PM
scorpion helmet yata yung isang helmet sa video di ba? yun yata ang pinaka murang helmet na snell certified siguro sa US.


Yung mga HJC CL-15 din kaya na binebenta sa US ay snell certified? yung nabili ko kasing agv gp1 galing US ay snell certified pero yung mga binebenta dito sa pinas ay hindi. Nagtataka lang ako kung anong pagkakaiba non?

Sorry to say but the gp1 helmets that are sold locally are DEFINITELY SNELL CERTIFIED -- they both came from the same factory -- in the u.s.a. the distributor -- puts a sticker stating that IT IS SNELL CERTIFIED --
The factory does not provide for snell certified stickers -- in the case of AGV its the distributor in the u.s.a. provide for this sticker. FYI.

Payon Hunter
January 28th, 2008, 11:00 PM
POGI points...status symbol

Payon Hunter
January 28th, 2008, 11:26 PM
is it really worth it??

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for us ordinary citizen malamang hindi.... pero it like... why some people buy bmw or a porche kung may kia or toyota naman mas matipid pa sa gas, why do some people buy a ducati or aprilla kung may dio or xrm naman madali pang isingit sa traffic, why do some people buy(build) 4 story 10 bedroom 8 T&B 6 car garage house kung a bungalo will do naman mababa pa ang property tax .... pogi points? status symbol? a "trophy" dahil nagtagumpay sya sa larangan ng buhay? kaya nyang bumuli eh ?

jetzone
January 29th, 2008, 12:57 AM
is it really worth it??

oo naman....kung sa tingin mo ang halaga ng bungo mo eh singko mil....then buy a lid na ganun ang halaga...the rule is.. buy the helmet your pocket can afford..

iCe213
January 29th, 2008, 01:27 AM
is it really worth it??

oo naman....kung sa tingin mo ang halaga ng bungo mo eh singko mil....then buy a lid na ganun ang halaga...the rule is.. buy the helmet your pocket can afford..

i agree...

aux4
January 29th, 2008, 05:45 AM
is it really worth it??

honestly, as long as the helmet is DOT and SNELL certified, the price doesnt really matter.

the rule of thumb is: wear a helmet when riding your bike but try really hard not to use it :clap:

WIKEND WARYOR
January 29th, 2008, 06:35 AM
is it really worth it??

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The answer to your question is SUBJECTIVE.

1.If a biker CAN AFFORD it, this is good for him or for her.

2.If a biker CANNOT AFFORD it, he or she must buy a helmet that is SNELL or DOT certified for SAFETY.

3.SHOEI has been in business for almost 50 years, a lot of members might not been even born yet especially the younger generation when SHOEI started its company in Japan,in fact it's one of the very few helmets that is 100 % pure made in Japan,(ORIGINAL ).

4.They can SAY anything that can say,they COPY any design that they can ,but the CREDIBILITY of ORIGINAL SHOEI cannot be destroyed because bikers all over the WORLD that CAN AFFORD to buy SHOEI will buy them regardless of its PRICE.

5.If SHOEI helmets are the same as LOW END helmets,why bikers that CAN AFFORD still buy SHOEI ? Simple answer, because of it's CREDIBILITY,COMFORT , VENTILATION & WEIGHT.

If you have a chance to borrow or use a SHOEI CORSAIR you will see the difference between a SHOEI and a LOW END HELMET that is made in CHINA,(no offense against CHINESE ),I do suggest wear it riding in your bike at low,medium & high speed,
and then please tell me Why CAN AFFORD bikers buy this helmet ?

Also in a third world country like Philippines where the price of a helmet is a BIG DEAL,thats why they ask this question ,Is it worth it ?

lenin
January 29th, 2008, 06:46 AM
You pay peanuts, you get monkeys.....


Just my 2 cent's worth.

noypito
January 29th, 2008, 06:50 AM
kahit na kaya kong bumili ng mamahaling helmet, yung basic DOT/Snell pa rin ang pipiliin ko. why? para may peace of mind ako. di ko na kailangang bitbit palagi helmet ko kung saan man ako pumunta. puede ko iwang helmet sa motor. di ko kailangang maging sobrang ingat baka kasi magasgasan ang helmet ko. as a matter of fact, dami na gasgas mga helmets ko. it all boils down to pareho lang naman ang level of protection ng mga helmets. be it worth Php35,000 or Php5,000. dun na ako sa 5000.

mich25
January 29th, 2008, 06:52 AM
Sorry to say but the gp1 helmets that are sold locally are DEFINITELY SNELL CERTIFIED -- they both came from the same factory -- in the u.s.a. the distributor -- puts a sticker stating that IT IS SNELL CERTIFIED --
The factory does not provide for snell certified stickers -- in the case of AGV its the distributor in the u.s.a. provide for this sticker. FYI.



i think act2000 is the owner of mcs phil

jetzone
January 29th, 2008, 07:21 AM
it all boils down to pareho lang naman ang level of protection ng mga helmets. be it worth Php35,000 or Php5,000. dun na ako sa 5000.


i beg to disagree....merong mga helmets designed for road use only...while some are race lids...

and even though they can meet certain level of protection standards...a 35,000 lid can be miles ahead when it comes to better features when it comes to safety, comfort and features...

...take for example race lids [ i would refrain from using rossis lids coz...masyadong malaki patong ng presyo dahil sa pangalan nya ]

..i would mean say...arai, schubert, bmw,simpson

and you compare them to HJC, KBC , Airoh, ....

..and you see what i mean....

..otherwise...kung pare pareho proteksion na binibigay nyan...then most moto gp riders can settle certain brands except shoei, arai, nolan, AGV .....

i got 6 lids...and i can tell the difference...

Wills_McLaren
January 29th, 2008, 07:21 AM
Sorry to say but the gp1 helmets that are sold locally are DEFINITELY SNELL CERTIFIED -- they both came from the same factory -- in the u.s.a. the distributor -- puts a sticker stating that IT IS SNELL CERTIFIED --
The factory does not provide for snell certified stickers -- in the case of AGV its the distributor in the u.s.a. provide for this sticker. FYI.

Thanks for clarification sir. Yung sticker lang pala ang pinagkaiba.

Pero yung mga new models ng AGV ngayon like yung stealth ko ay DOT/BSI ang certification at wala ng SNELL. Maski yung Titech ay ganun din, pareho sila ng certification. Pero yung S4 ay BSI type A naman. yung XR2 ay DOT lang ang nakalagay.

WIKEND WARYOR
January 29th, 2008, 08:03 AM
ARAI,SHOEI,AGV,SUOMY, & OTHER HIGH ENDS HELMET COMPANY are not FORCING bikers to buy their helmet's.

Kung ANO lang ang kaya ng BUDGET ninyo,iyon na lang ang BILHIN ninyo as long as it is DOT,SNEE or ECE certified,

But to say na or PAREHO lang na HELMET yan , yes i agree as far as DOT/SNELL/ECE certification is concerned.

Now yung mga BIKER na MAY KUARTA,bibili siya ng EXTRA FEATURES,such as COMFORT,WEIGHT,VENTILATION,OUTLET,DESIGN,QUALITY OF PAINT,STRENGTH OF MATERIAL ,iyon po ang EXTRA NA BINABAYARAN ng BIKER NA MAY KUARTA,

Now sa BIKER na may KUARTA ok lang sa kanya na mag-bayad ng EXTRA,yung walang KUARTA eh di doon siya sa kaya lang ng BUDGET niya.

Ang hirap sa ating mga pilipino may mga iba diyan na HINDI MATANGGAP NG PRIDE NILA na HINDI NILA KAYANG BUMILI NG HIGH ENDS,Tapos sisiraan pa nila yung ibang brand !:rolleyes: That is so sad.

It is not a question if its worth it,The question is CAN I AFFORD IT ?

Hindi po tayo kailangang mag-talo sa simpleng tanong,Bilhin natin ang HELMET na kaya ng ating bulsa at iyong sa tingin natin ay may sapat na proteksiyon ang ating ulo,kung tayoy may KUARTA de bilhen natin yung mahal !Simple lang yan.

DESK_MULLEN
January 29th, 2008, 08:24 AM
BASTA AKO NKABILI AKO NG MOTOR PAUTIK UTIK KYA MAKAKBILI DIN AKO NG HELMET NA ALAM KONG KAYANG SUPORTAHAN ULO KO. KHIT PAUTIK UTIK LANG DIN SA NGAUN MSAYA NA KO SA MGA HELMET KO MASASABI KO BAWAT ISA MAY PAGKAKAIBA. PERO SAME PROTEKSYON MAIBIBIGAY SAKIN. panoorin nyo din mga sub video nyan napanood ko na din halos laht ng vid ng helmet harbor.

Payon Hunter
January 29th, 2008, 08:38 AM
it all boils down to pareho lang naman ang level of protection ng mga helmets. be it worth Php35,000 or Php5,000. dun na ako sa 5000.


i beg to disagree....merong mga helmets designed for road use only...while some are race lids...

and even though they can meet certain level of protection standards...a 35,000 lid can be miles ahead when it comes to better features when it comes to safety, comfort and features...

...take for example race lids [ i would refrain from using rossis lids coz...masyadong malaki patong ng presyo dahil sa pangalan nya ]

..i would mean say...arai, schubert, bmw,simpson

and you compare them to HJC, KBC , Airoh, ....

..and you see what i mean....

..otherwise...kung pare pareho proteksion na binibigay nyan...then most moto gp riders can settle certain brands except shoei, arai, nolan, AGV .....

i got 6 lids...and i can tell the difference...

yup pagdating sa "higher" level of performance dun na nakakatalo ang mura sa mahal :) pero sino ba sa atin ang umaabot sa ganitong "racespeed " ? :) kahit yun mga kulokoy na nagkakarera sa marilaque eh di aabot sa tulin nila rossi di ba? kung natatandaan nyo nun sumemplang at nagpagulong gulong si nakano sa tulin ng 200+kph eh kung dot cert index gamit nya pareho rin kaya ng kakalabasan? :)

jetzone
January 29th, 2008, 08:56 AM
yup pagdating sa "higher" level of performance dun na nakakatalo ang mura sa mahal :) pero sino ba sa atin ang umaabot sa ganitong "racespeed " ? :) kahit yun mga kulokoy na nagkakarera sa marilaque eh di aabot sa tulin nila rossi di ba? kung natatandaan nyo nun sumemplang at nagpagulong gulong si nakano sa tulin ng 200+kph eh kung dot cert index gamit nya pareho rin kaya ng kakalabasan? :)

a RIDE UK magazine special report about safety issues on certain models of different helmet brand [ which i was able to buy ] would suggest that lids on the "upper" bracket has a better way of surviving the penetration test.

and some lids that are specialized has got a different plastic composite so that it can absorb as much as concentrated force on penetration test and shock absorption....

but then again impact absorption on a helmet during an accident cannot be similar to one another..parang tree rings....so in my opinion,your lid may not save you on a freak accident in marilaque on a 90kmh or maybe it will....

daming consideration...but then again...maybe nakano could also survive marilaque pero not on 200km/h [ for one he was using race tyres on a track]

DESK_MULLEN
January 29th, 2008, 09:05 AM
and some lids that are specialized has got a different plastic composite so that it can absorb as much as concentrated force on penetration test and shock absorption....

but then again impact absorption on a helmet during an accident cannot be similar to one another..parang tree rings....so in my opinion,your lid may not save you on a freak accident in marilaque on a 90kmh or maybe it will....


amen to that.

mich25
January 29th, 2008, 09:06 AM
lower price more heavier, strictly airflow, made from fiber glass..
higher price more lighter, more airflow, made from carbon kevlar
but when u see the video of top 5 helmet brand, the clear choice is shoei X11
this is my next project

Ranimal
January 29th, 2008, 10:39 AM
Once the safety issue has been resolved, I don't think there is a difference. But, with a higher price, there are better features for the helmet. Weight is a big one with me. Ventilation is another. Also, the paint and graphics of the high end helmets are fantastic!

asylum
January 29th, 2008, 10:44 AM
tanong lang kung sino-sino sa mga naka-UB & scoot dito (yung walang BB or sports bike ) ang naka-arai, shoei, agv & suomy?

for sure meron, pero konti lang sila.. :)

Wills_McLaren
January 29th, 2008, 10:49 AM
tanong lang kung sino-sino sa mga naka-UB & scoot dito (yung walang BB or sports bike ) ang naka-arai, shoei, agv & suomy?

for sure meron, pero konti lang sila.. :)

marami din sir. nakita ko nung MCPF jamboree pero syempre maliit lang ang percentage.

mich25
January 29th, 2008, 11:09 AM
this thread is starting to debate
guys stay cool.. we have different opinion lang
like the amboy in video he pick shoei in top 5 brand, pano nman yung gusto ng arai etc..thx

WIKEND WARYOR
January 29th, 2008, 12:25 PM
tanong lang kung sino-sino sa mga naka-UB & scoot dito (yung walang BB or sports bike ) ang naka-arai, shoei, agv & suomy?

for sure meron, pero konti lang sila.. :)
Yup, i agree with you,in a third world country like the Philippines a biker will buy a helmet that he or she can afford not the one he or she likes to wear.

The socio economic status of the biker plays a major part in making a decision if he or she can afford to buy a high end helmet.

Thats what i posted earlier, Yung may KUARTA sa high ends,yung walang KUARTA or LOW BUDGET doon sa low ends,pero kahit low ends as long as it is DOT/SNELL/ECE certified that is good enough to protect a biker's head.

This is not RICH versus POOR,this is about SAFETY,now yung may KUARTA has the advantage better fit,comfort,ventilation,weight,quality of material,strength of material,quality of pads...

Also when it comes to accident,it does not matter whether you have a HIGH end or LOW end helmet,Kung oras mo oras mo na talaga.!

Theres no need for us to conflict over a helmet.

shan
January 29th, 2008, 12:32 PM
ulitin ko base sa clip sabi ng mama ung other expenses is napupunta sa engineering ng helmet like ventilation, foams, weight etch etch it means ung extra money for that helmet is napunta sa feature unlike dun sa scorpion na ang feature nya is Snell dot approved lang. kuha nyo.. Worth ang pag bili ng helmet na mahal basta meron pag gagamitan. like shoei magaan daw ito kaya mahal maganda ang ventilation and foams. unlike sa scorpion helmet dot and snell approved lang kuha nyo.

ang tanong worth ba ang mahal na helmet
Sa akin oo especially kung bagay sa pag gagamitan. Like kung my osteoporosis ka and mahina na ang bones mo di na kaya ung heavy weight na helmet syempre dun ka sa light weight na matibay. ang price is nag didipend sa feature ng helmet. pareho lang sila dot and snell pero ung feature ung pinag ka iba kaya ung ibang helmet mahal.

better watch nyo ulit ung video.
ang sabi lang ni manong kung ordinaryong tao ka lang hindi na ngangarera kung baga daily commute lang ung bike mo better to buy a cheaper snell dot certified helmet kaysa bumili ka ng mamahaling helmet kasi di mo naman kaylangan ung features ng mamahaling helmet.

noypito
January 29th, 2008, 02:24 PM
it's good na nagkakaroon ng debate dito. wala naman nagkakapersonalan. at least nagkakaroon ng open exchange of opinions.
for me, ang reason kung bakit ang mga nangangarera ay gumagamit ng certain helmet ay dahil sa yung company ang nag sponsor sa kanya. it dosen't follow na it's because it is the safest helmet. e di sana pare pareho na lahat ng helmets na gamit ng lahat ng racers kasi syempre pipiliin nila ang safest.
ang safefest naman would depend on the kind of protection. di pare pareho ang ratings ng bawat helmet. meron mas matibay sa puncture, may mas matibay sa impact sa flat surface, may mas matibay sa abration. pero walang helmet na pinakamatibay sa lahat. may helmet na tahimik, may helmet na maingay. may helmet na mabigat. may helmet na magaan. may well ventilated, may sarado para di pasukan ng dust. it all boils down kung ano ang need mo at kung ano ang klase ng impact in case of an accident. sometimes nagsasacrifice ang level of puncture resistance pag pinagaan nila ang helmet.
pag dating naman sa fit and comfort, it all depends sa magsusuot nyan. meron mas comfortable para sa isang tao na di naman comfortable para sa iba. kanya kanyang size and shape ng ulo yan.
now, di naman porke't may pambayad ka, yung pinaka mahal na ang kukunin mo. di naman siguro sulit ang price difference na Php15k-20k para sa few grams na weight difference. besides, binili ko ang helmet para alagaan ang ulo ko hindi para ako ang magaalaga sa kanya. meaning to say puede ko syang iwan na nakasabit sa motor without worrying na baka manakaw sya or magasgasan sya. pag sa byahe at nadumihan ang lens, pinupunasan ko ng basahan agad para di obstructed ang sight ko. marami kasi ako nakakasama na sa sobrang mahal ng helmet nila, di nila mapunas punas ang lens pag maraming insects na naka dikit. baka daw magasgas. maghihintay pa sila ng next stop over kung saan may running water at may soft tissue. dami pang seremonyas bago punasan ang lens. babad pa muna sa wet tissue.

jetzone
January 29th, 2008, 03:00 PM
meron mas matibay sa puncture, may mas matibay sa impact sa flat surface, may mas matibay sa abration.


...eeerr are they suppose to break upon impact? ...to absorb and dissipate those shocks?

..otherwise those shock could be transfered on our head and.....

noypito
January 29th, 2008, 03:10 PM
meron mas matibay sa puncture, may mas matibay sa impact sa flat surface, may mas matibay sa abration.


...eeerr are they suppose to break upon impact? ...to absorb and dissipate those shocks?

..otherwise those shock could be transfered on our head and.....
yun nga eh. there's no exact formula. maraming debates pa ang nangyayari. may group pa nga na kumokontra sa snell standards. wala naman exact science pagdating sa accidente. di naman natin alam kung saan tatama ang ulo mo. it could be a flat surface. it could be something sharp. it could be a gutter, it could be a boulder. sobrang daming variables para masabi mo na one helmet is the best for all.
it dosen't have to break on impact para ma dissipate ang shock. nasa shape yan ng helmet at sa lining. again, there's no exact formula.

kazkazzerro
January 29th, 2008, 03:18 PM
basta ako kahit anong helmet ok lang kaso kadalasan ayoko mag helmet

DJ Monyo
January 29th, 2008, 03:28 PM
question lang sir sa mga AGV owners, pls. teach me naman how do I replace the lens of my helmet I bought it with clear and black color...right now im using the smoke one pero ang hirap sa gabi kaya gus2 ko sya palitan ng clear, but im afraid baka kasi masira ko tenks po sa mga mag rereply.

here is the pics of the actual helmet.
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2571/agvv10piranhaoh3.th.jpg (http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=agvv10piranhaoh3.jpg)

noypito
January 29th, 2008, 03:28 PM
basta ako kahit anong helmet ok lang kaso kadalasan ayoko mag helmet
ok lang yan. matigas naman skull cap mo. gayahin mo si francis. sinalubong ang bus. basag ang windshield ng bus:O:O:O

kazkazzerro
January 29th, 2008, 03:30 PM
ok lang yan. matigas naman skull cap mo. gayahin mo si francis. sinalubong ang bus. basag ang windshield ng bus:O:O:O

hehehe subukan ko nga din baka ang mangyari d lang mabasag mayupi ang buong bus:O:O:O

Payon Hunter
January 29th, 2008, 05:09 PM
a RIDE UK magazine special report about safety issues on certain models of different helmet brand [ which i was able to buy ] would suggest that lids on the "upper" bracket has a better way of surviving the penetration test.

and some lids that are specialized has got a different plastic composite so that it can absorb as much as concentrated force on penetration test and shock absorption....

but then again impact absorption on a helmet during an accident cannot be similar to one another..parang tree rings....so in my opinion,your lid may not save you on a freak accident in marilaque on a 90kmh or maybe it will....

daming consideration...but then again...maybe nakano could also survive marilaque pero not on 200km/h [ for one he was using race tyres on a track]


so ibig sabihin mahal o mura helmet mo kung sesemplang ka swertehan na lang?

Payon Hunter
January 29th, 2008, 05:22 PM
btw ito yun video ni nakano :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TruLFYijL6U




ilang beses pumalo yun ulo nya sa tarmac... isip nyo kung YKL or sunnex helmet gamit nya :D


btw(again) advisable na mag stretching muna before a ride (practice streching araw araw na lang, excercise pati :) )

jetzone
January 29th, 2008, 05:50 PM
so ibig sabihin mahal o mura helmet mo kung sesemplang ka swertehan na lang?


yes sir,,thats how i understand it..say sumemplang ka....to think of the word itself, it is by no means a controlled momentum.....

...law of physics can only provide how much human intervention can lower the chances of severe casualty...or even prevention of death

take for example yung mga moto gp racers...me drills silang pi na praktis in case sumemplang sila...yung body movement/mechanics....and presentation na gagawin to minimize the injury...

...pero it doesnt follow the rule always....kung talagang biktima ka ng sakuna and no matter what you do that time to minimize any injury, kahit ganun kabilis reflexes mo...at nangyari yung aksidente

...well either

...buhay ka with minimal injury
...buhay ka pero cabbage ka na
...DOA ka sa ambulansya

on casual riders tulad natin....same rules apply din...to think mas marami pang hazzards sa public roads keysa sa race track:

to name a few:

..oil spills / diesel oil residue sa kalsada
..tumatawid na aso/tao/kambing/manok
..potholes
..traces of dirt/sand/debris sa kalsada
..pasaway na ibang sasakyan

what im saying is ke mahal or mura safety gears na nabili natin [not only referring to helmets ]....it adds up lang as a "prophylaxis" when we ride....

..it can save us...or not...

..yun po paniniwala ko...

shan
January 29th, 2008, 06:32 PM
basta ako kung gusto ko ng helmet ng maganda feature and affordable dun ako.
All I can say is worth ung price basta ung feature wala sa ibang helmet like ang cl 15 (4500)and cl sp (6500) ng hjc meroong kabitan ng breath guard and mabilis matangal ung lens nila e ung ibang helmet dyan na same ng price di naman ganyan ung feature pero ang mahal nila. worth ang pera ko dito sa helmet na to unlike sa other helmet na same price pero pangit ng feature.

Consumer wise before buying a helmet check ung ibang competitor kung ano meron sa helmet nila and kung ung price is tama lang.

pero syempre di mo parin ma aalis na if a helmet have an advance technology means addition price ito sa helmet as long as it serve it's purpose.

Payon Hunter
January 29th, 2008, 07:50 PM
yes sir,,thats how i understand it..say sumemplang ka....to think of the word itself, it is by no means a controlled momentum.....

...law of physics can only provide how much human intervention can lower the chances of severe casualty...or even prevention of death

take for example yung mga moto gp racers...me drills silang pi na praktis in case sumemplang sila...yung body movement/mechanics....and presentation na gagawin to minimize the injury...

...pero it doesnt follow the rule always....kung talagang biktima ka ng sakuna and no matter what you do that time to minimize any injury, kahit ganun kabilis reflexes mo...at nangyari yung aksidente

...well either

...buhay ka with minimal injury
...buhay ka pero cabbage ka na
...DOA ka sa ambulansya

on casual riders tulad natin....same rules apply din...to think mas marami pang hazzards sa public roads keysa sa race track:

to name a few:

..oil spills / diesel oil residue sa kalsada
..tumatawid na aso/tao/kambing/manok
..potholes
..traces of dirt/sand/debris sa kalsada
..pasaway na ibang sasakyan

what im saying is ke mahal or mura safety gears na nabili natin [not only referring to helmets ]....it adds up lang as a "prophylaxis" when we ride....

..it can save us...or not...

..yun po paniniwala ko...

Ang paniwala ko naman ang isang gamit ay may katapat na KARAPATDAPAT na paggagamitan. parang camera yan di ba ... lahat makakakuha ng litrato pero bakit ka bumibili ng high-end? di ba para makakuha ng MAS magandang litrato (isa ka sa may katulo-tulong laway na camera :D).



acknowledge ko naman yun paniniwala mong walang bagay na sigurado, sabi nga bilog ang mundo... pero mas malaki ang chances mo kung appropriate ang gamit mo :)

Payon Hunter
January 29th, 2008, 08:01 PM
at naniniwala din ako sa salitang "overkill"

jetzone
January 29th, 2008, 08:16 PM
Ang paniwala ko naman ang isang gamit ay may katapat na KARAPATDAPAT na paggagamitan. parang camera yan di ba ... lahat makakakuha ng litrato pero bakit ka bumibili ng high-end? di ba para makakuha ng MAS magandang litrato (isa ka sa may katulo-tulong laway na camera :D).



acknowledge ko naman yun paniniwala mong walang bagay na sigurado, sabi nga bilog ang mundo... pero mas malaki ang chances mo kung appropriate ang gamit mo :)

as for the first paragraph....hehehe...mas maganda high end....pag bihasa ka na...mas tumataas na standards mo sa pagkuha ng litrato....[ ibang thread ata tinutukoy mo brader:D]

tutuo...cheap cameras....expensive cameras can give you photos...pero yung expensive cams...gives you extra flexibility and stretch....[yoko magsalita baka ma OT hehe]

as for the 2nd paragraph....yep....you get more confidence of using better spec na lid...

...i noticed that sa quality materials na ginagamit...

to make an analogy...

parang AA battery...

...one is zinc oxide and the other lithium...

both gives power...pero guess who run the stretch better...at a price you want to pay