as for the first paragraph....hehehe...mas maganda high end....pag bihasa ka na...mas tumataas na standards mo sa pagkuha ng litrato....[ ibang thread ata tinutukoy mo brader:D]

tutuo...cheap cameras....expensive cameras can give you photos...pero yung expensive cams...gives you extra flexibility and stretch....[yoko magsalita baka ma OT hehe]

as for the 2nd paragraph....yep....you get more confidence of using better spec na lid...

...i noticed that sa quality materials na ginagamit...

to make an analogy...

parang AA battery...

...one is zinc oxide and the other lithium...

both gives power...pero guess who run the stretch better...at a price you want to pay

isipin mo na lang helmet yan :)

kung mahal ang helmet, mas maingat ka na magasgas at masemplang - mas disiplinado ang driving...

@DJ monyo - here's the link onhow to remove the lens for agv http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPS4sOUWgro i also had a hard time removing the lens of my S4 nd it was a very expensive lesson for me, breaking one of the lens tab and have to purchase a new lens. it is fairly easy as soon as you get the trick.

@ pepe tenks so much for giving this video, it really helps me a lot, by the way mine is AGV Piranha.

btw ito yun video ni nakano :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TruLFYijL6U




ilang beses pumalo yun ulo nya sa tarmac... isip nyo kung YKL or sunnex helmet gamit nya :D


btw(again) advisable na mag stretching muna before a ride (practice streching araw araw na lang, excercise pati :) )

ayuut! tigas ng helmet..:D

meron nabasa brother ko..mas okay daw mgyoga/ streching kesa sa mga ngbody builder na riders..mas nakakatagal daw sa long ride ung mga ngyoyoga and streching kesa sa mga body builder..:D

is it really worth it??

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bro just to simply answer your question for me yes theres a difference and yes it is worth it , invest on your safety and comfort it will defenitly be worth it.

my answer to the TS question is yes it is worth it...

Its definitely worth it.

Index na helmet suot ko nung nag ride kami sa sariaya and I had an accident..yun tangal isang ngipin ko. Deym.

Your're welcome DJ Monyo. You'll never regret owning an agv, i already got two in my collection.=)

to make an analogy...

parang AA battery...

...one is zinc oxide and the other lithium...

both gives power...pero guess who run the stretch better...at a price you want to pay
ituloy ko lang ang analogy...
what if yung lithium battery lasts 3x longer than the zinc oxide battery and the lithium costs 10x more? worth it ba ang price difference? now back to helmets, yes there definitely is a difference sa hemets na mas mahal. many times nga lang, i don't think the price difference is worth it.
eg. may reasonable air vents na ang helmet ko pero may same brand kaso higher priced model na may bigger air vents. the price difference for that feature is 5k. definitely, i won't go for the more expensive model. ibibili ko nalang ng extra lens ang helmet ko ang 5k na yan para pag nagasgas, may pamalit ako. pero kung ang price difference is 100 lang, i'd say na the price difference is worth it. tulad ng weight difference ng helmet. kung 1000php ang price difference per gram, definitely hindi worth it. kaya ko naman ang added na 20-50 grams na extra weight kahit sa mga endurance rides. eventually, lalakas din ang muscles ko sa leeg to compensate for the extra weight.

wag na kyo mag debate
post your helmets nalang para makita nmin lahat

Post ko lang link..la lang baka sakali lang may maidagdag sa pwede pagusapan d2.

http://www.motorcyclephilippines.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114119

nakakatuwa kasi makipag debate ng walang katuturan eh. hehehe. wala na kasi masyadong interesting thread lately. actually, wala naman kasi sukat sa amount of protection , comfort and aesthetics. nasa bibili ng helmet ang choice kung ano ang sa palagay nya ang sulit at hindi sulit.
basta buy a safe helmet. yung price, depende na sa kung sa palagay mo ay sulit o hindi.

wag na kyo mag debate
post your helmets nalang para makita nmin lahat

magiging "show your helmet" ang thread na to pag nagkataon.. hehehe

ang sakin mga sir/mam basta DOT certified, my warranty, comfort, aesthetics at ung reputation ng helmet sa accidents.. Yung price na sulit pero safe

magiging "show your helmet" ang thread na to pag nagkataon.. hehehe

mukhang un na nga ang mangyayari sir, sana hindi.. hehe

nakakatuwa kasi makipag debate ng walang katuturan eh. hehehe. wala na kasi masyadong interesting thread lately. actually, wala naman kasi sukat sa amount of protection , comfort and aesthetics. nasa bibili ng helmet ang choice kung ano ang sa palagay nya ang sulit at hindi sulit.
basta buy a safe helmet. yung price, depende na sa kung sa palagay mo ay sulit o hindi. basta ako, i'd go for the cheapest available helmet na safe, comfortable and aesthetically appealing to me. kung puede 5k lang para di masakit pag nawala /ninakaw o nagasgasan.

bakit mga thread bigla na lang na close dto sa mcp
sa ibang website hindi nman ganon, tapos pag matagal ka hindi nagpost bigla na lang nag logout kahit nandto pa ako..wala rin galery for individual pag nag post ka picture isa isa lang lumalabas sa galery section..maganda sana baguhin ng konti yung style ng website like sa altisclubzz.com may sariling gallery bawat member tapos may sighting kung sino nakita mong motor 2day, post natin kung sino sino nakikita ntin sa street evryday..sugestion ko lang

bakit mga thread bigla na lang na close dto sa mcp
sa ibang website hindi nman ganon, tapos pag matagal ka hindi nagpost bigla na lang nag logout kahit nandto pa ako..wala rin galery for individual pag nag post ka picture isa isa lang lumalabas sa galery section..maganda sana baguhin ng konti yung style ng website like sa altisclubzz.com may sariling gallery bawat member tapos may sighting kung sino nakita mong motor 2day, post natin kung sino sino nakikita ntin sa street evryday..sugestion ko lang

paki post sir dun FORUM AND WEBSITE RELATED section, para mabasa ng mods.

If you have a chance to borrow or use a SHOEI CORSAIR you will see the difference between a SHOEI and a LOW END HELMET that is made in CHINA,(no offense against CHINESE ),I do suggest wear it riding in your bike at low,medium & high speed,
and then please tell me Why CAN AFFORD bikers buy this helmet ?



Mukhang napaghalo mo yung SHOEI at ARAI CORSAIR ah:D

ituloy ko lang ang analogy...
what if yung lithium battery lasts 3x longer than the zinc oxide battery and the lithium costs 10x more? worth it ba ang price difference?



kung nasa bahay/umaga/city which madaling makabili ng pamalit hindi sulit ang mas mahal actually lalabas na OA ka pa nga dun PERO kung nasa bundok ka o nasaliblib na pook or gabi OR may photo shoot kayo ni era madrigal o ni maria osawa itatake chance mo ba na maubusan ka ng baterya sa kalagitnaan ng photoshoot? :D sabi ko nga may tamang gamit para sa tamang panahon at tamang paggagamitan :)


ngayun isipin mo na lang HELMET yan hehehe

for me, just buy what you need...

if you are a "racer"...i would say that you have to acquire high end helmet, jacket, boots and other accessories.

aside from that you should consider your lifestyle and the "circle" you are with.

the posted question is subjective.

the bottom line is...can you afford a high end helmet?

if your answer is YES, go get one or a collection but if NO, go for a quality one that will serve its purpose.

this is only my opinion.

At the end..........

It boils down on what you have on your pocket and passion.

If you have the money to buy an expensive helmet then who wouldn't want to buy an expensive item. If you dont have that much dough to burn and are on a budget, get yourself whatever certified helmet your money can buy.

Getting a decent certified helmet NOW is better than not wearing any protection because you are saving up for that high-end helmet you want to buy LATER.

Mukhang napaghalo mo yung SHOEI at ARAI CORSAIR ah:D

Oo nga pala :D,It should be ARAI CORSAIR, thank you sir !:)

At the end..........

It boils down on what you have on your pocket and passion.


there you go... the simpliest answer :)

ituloy ko lang ang analogy...
what if yung lithium battery lasts 3x longer than the zinc oxide battery and the lithium costs 10x more? worth it ba ang price difference? now back to helmets, yes there definitely is a difference sa hemets na mas mahal. many times nga lang, i don't think the price difference is worth it.
eg. may reasonable air vents na ang helmet ko pero may same brand kaso higher priced model na may bigger air vents. the price difference for that feature is 5k. definitely, i won't go for the more expensive model. ibibili ko nalang ng extra lens ang helmet ko ang 5k na yan para pag nagasgas, may pamalit ako. pero kung ang price difference is 100 lang, i'd say na the price difference is worth it. tulad ng weight difference ng helmet. kung 1000php ang price difference per gram, definitely hindi worth it. kaya ko naman ang added na 20-50 grams na extra weight kahit sa mga endurance rides. eventually, lalakas din ang muscles ko sa leeg to compensate for the extra weight.


yep...ill pay that amount...there is such word we call false economy...if you buy them cheap...then that is what you can only get...
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and the way i choose to buy my lid...i always purchase them based on the reviews of independent companies....kung pumasa sa testing sa canada, us, australia, europe...then ill buy it [never na nag rely ako sa snell or DOT na yan]

tsaka eto pinaka importante:

well known brands are being really put to a crash test by independent companies to measure their safety performance...[never seen them of less well known badges]

imagine they would wreck a lid between P14,000 - P30,000 intentionally just to see if the company that made them are true to their word about their lids...

and thats a good thing...these company can offer unbiased reviews...[ would i rely because it only say: "snell and DOT" approved??]

AT DUON AKO NAG RE RELY[ at hindi dyan sa snell or dot ekek stuff na yan- i cant even know kung anu standards nila for testing]

sa tutuo lang NEVER did i ever looked kung snell or DOT certified ang isang lid....

my argument is: 2 lids in front of me....

sa kaliwa, me tatak na DOT/SNEll accredited [and its cheaper in price]

sa kanan, i ignored the same accreditation PERO pinakita sa independent review kung papano nila binasag at inabuso for a crash test at pumasa ng above average..

so using my common sense, kahit mahal...si paniniwalaan ko? or saan ko isusugal ulo ko?

basta me gold sticker that is certified british standard..yang mga DOT and snell sa us...they are not legal here in uk...

besides gold acu accredited lids can conform that these lids can be used for racing....

and kwentahan ko sa presyo ng helmet eh as a whole and not because mas magaan sya ng 100grms or madaming vents....

at the end of the day....ang safety naman ng ulo ko eh as a whole din...

so if i can afford a better lid...kahit na 25% less price pa yung nearest competitor [with more vents,also as light comfy enough] against a brand that i want dahil i can rely on it....that certain review company wrech that lid intentionally for a crash test review..and they passed it above average then i woudnt want to pay cheap dahil ulo ko naman ang gagamit nun in the end....
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there was a story here on the forum narrated by a member about his friend who had met an accident [he is also a member]

the story went as his face was totally wreck brought about by his half face helmet visor shattering to lots of jagged pieces that struck his face that almost left him almost blind..

...apparently , it was a bad publicity for the company...and it turns out ata na another member here sells those lids [maybe he works of the company too]

now i was just wondering...i would put the quality materials of that visor in question [ kasi yung presyo nung helmet is less than 6K i would assume ]

tsaka plain common sense:

marami akong nakikitang mga MC sa pinas na saksakan sa DAMI NG MGA BURLOLOY SA BIKES NILA.....

try nyong kwentahin kung magkakano nagastos lahat dun..at malamang makakabili ka na ng high end helmets

...o di vah...pag sumemplang ka...laslas yung mga burloloy...pano na kung mumurahing helmet pa gamit mo?

these people can afford to spend a lot for their burloloys for their bikes...

why cant it be on safety first...

bwahahahahaha:evil::O

great debate though:clap:

A couple of years ago the US magazine Motorcyclist published a very controversial report on helmets. Here it is:

http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/gearbox/motorcycle_helmet_review/

Read it for yourself and get informed. My opinion is that, like most things, increased price gets you increased performance/protection UP TO A POINT. Beyond that point, you start paying for image and nice graphics and softer liners, etc..., but not more safety.

Looked at this way, pick a brand that you respect, i.e., Shoei, Arai, etc...Their cheapest full-face models probably protect you as well as their most expensive models, the difference in price due to nicer graphics and better linings, ventilation, etc...

For what it's worth, I've crashed with both $100 fiberglass and $500 carbon fiber helmets. Both saved my life.

ok ganito na lang , tutal "passion" naman natin ang pagmomotor pwede naman tayo magprovide ng multiple helmets like kung pampalengke o pambili ng yosi cl-14 (and the likes) pang harabas at di baling magasgas , pang attend ng pormahan/parties/club meeting etc race replica with matching graphix at kung pang long ride naman a carbon-fiber lid like hjc ac-12 carbon para magaan at hindi mangangawit batok/ulo .... sabi nga ni jetson kung kaya nyo iporma motor nyo kaya nyo rin iporma ulo nyo hehehe

or bili kayo ng pinakamahal at pinakaastig na mabibili nyong helmet,sympre habang suot nyo yun di maiiwasang pagtinginan kayo ng ibang tao , at least sikat kayo pag suot nyo helmet nyo :D... and just incase maaksidente kayo tumama helmet nyo sa kalsada o ano paman at nag survive kayo, wag nyo ng gamitin yun helmet may marka na yun, ilagay na nyo sa isa kanto ng bahay nyo at gawin parang souvenir ... PRICELESS

tsaka plain common sense:

marami akong nakikitang mga MC sa pinas na saksakan sa DAMI NG MGA BURLOLOY SA BIKES NILA.....

try nyong kwentahin kung magkakano nagastos lahat dun..at malamang makakabili ka na ng high end helmets

...o di vah...pag sumemplang ka...laslas yung mga burloloy...pano na kung mumurahing helmet pa gamit mo?

these people can afford to spend a lot for their burloloys for their bikes...

why cant it be on safety first...

bwahahahahaha:evil::O

Agree on this one.. Nice observation...:D

A couple of years ago the US magazine Motorcyclist published a very controversial report on helmets. Here it is:

http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/gearbox/motorcycle_helmet_review/

Read it for yourself and get informed. My opinion is that, like most things, increased price gets you increased performance/protection UP TO A POINT. Beyond that point, you start paying for image and nice graphics and softer liners, etc..., but not more safety.

Looked at this way, pick a brand that you respect, i.e., Shoei, Arai, etc...Their cheapest full-face models probably protect you as well as their most expensive models, the difference in price due to nicer graphics and better linings, ventilation, etc...

For what it's worth, I've crashed with both $100 fiberglass and $500 carbon fiber helmets. Both saved my life.
amen.
i''ve had a major crash at aquinaldo hiway in dasmarinas cavite in the wee hours of the morning. cruising at more than 100kph. i was wearing a high end china made helmet which i bought from china. (worth around 3.5k if converted to peso.) i landed head first after the collision. had a fractured elbow but the lid saved my head from any injury. kaya bilib na rin ako sa GB811 standard ng china. even the lens did it's job very well.

sir, jetzone ano po helmet gamit nyo? ganda cguro helmet nyo.
nakano yata gamit nyo ah like sa avatar nyo

magaganda talaga helmet ni Jetzone. Meron syang AGV stealth, Sixonesixone, at marami pang iba.

bigtime pala si jetzone
anong klase ang sixone? never heard that pa

Is there a difference between high end helmet and low end helmet? No there is no difference if you don't wear helmets properly all the time when you ride.

For me.... buy the best helmet you can afford and WEAR IT. Either helmet is useless when they are worn improperly like on the elbow or on the forehead. You will see and feel the difference (build quality and comfort) between the 2 helmets when you are wearing them.

So if you plan to really wear your helmet properly all the time... buy the best helmet you can afford. If you don't really plan to use it properly... buy the cheapest one available or buy a cap and sunglasses instead.

Me.... I don't wear helmets.......... Just kidding. Peace!

tsaka plain common sense:

marami akong nakikitang mga MC sa pinas na saksakan sa DAMI NG MGA BURLOLOY SA BIKES NILA.....

try nyong kwentahin kung magkakano nagastos lahat dun..at malamang makakabili ka na ng high end helmets

...o di vah...pag sumemplang ka...laslas yung mga burloloy...pano na kung mumurahing helmet pa gamit mo?

these people can afford to spend a lot for their burloloys for their bikes...

why cant it be on safety first...

bwahahahahaha:evil::O

korek ka dyan sir.....that's how unmindful other riders are. they waste money on nonsense and safety is not part of the equation.

So if you plan to really wear your helmet properly all the time... buy the best helmet you can afford. If you don't really plan to use it properly... buy the cheapest one available or buy a cap and sunglasses instead.




Ang ganda nitong advice na ito...:clap:

bigtime pala si jetzone
anong klase ang sixone? never heard that pa

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/1859/sixsixoneflightyellowblst5.jpg


http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/4758/sixsixoneww9.jpg

Alin kaya ang mas maganda?shoei X11 or arai RX7, baka may mabili akong X11 na slightly used..... sana matuloy.

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/1859/sixsixoneflightyellowblst5.jpg


http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/4758/sixsixoneww9.jpg
Wow!!! danda danda ng kulay at design ng helmet. Sir jetzone, would you consider selling this helmet? tamang tama kasi ang design nya for one of my bikes. parang dinesign sya for my bike.

mas magaganda to:)

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/2549/agvgppronc7.jpg

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/3545/agvstealthkx5.jpg

http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/6266/araixd2qn5.jpg

Alin kaya ang mas maganda?shoei X11 or arai RX7, baka may mabili akong X11 na slightly used..... sana matuloy.

arai rx7....:evil:

If you can afford a bike, you should be able to afford a good helmet, if not the best. Its not a question of why or how much, its just a MUST. :D

Anong model sir ng AGV ito?

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/2549/agvgppronc7.jpg

If there is one thing I noticed between hi-end and lo-end helmets is that hi-end helmets almost always use the double d ring strap set-up whereas lower end ones use the quick release buckle system.

If there is one thing I noticed between hi-end and lo-end helmets is that hi-end helmets almost always use the double d ring strap set-up whereas lower end ones use the quick release buckle system.

Yes, that's true. yung una kong helmet na Yamaha Roll bahn naka double D strap din. Naiinis nga ako dahil sabi ko eh bakit hindi high tec ang strap ng helmet ko. Yun pala pag medyo me presyo ang helmet ay naka double D.

Mas madali i fit at i adjust ang double D kesa quick release. Saka medyo mahirap din kapain kung minsan yung tinatawag na quick release kung minsan at medyo i be-bend mo pa sya para lang maalis.